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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 28, 2018 17:14:16 GMT
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Post by Gone on Nov 28, 2018 18:26:22 GMT
It would be interesting to know how it compares with money, door handles, supermarket checkout, bus seats, library books etc. etc.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 28, 2018 18:32:58 GMT
Two things that always 'get' me:
1. Toilet door handles. You may have washed your hands - but to get out you have to open the door, and often that handle is wet, and how many hundreds have had their hands on their privates and used that handle?
2. Doctors surgeries / health stations - isn't it great to cram everybody together with unknown diseases into a small waiting room, all coughing and sneezing over you?!
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Post by patty on Nov 28, 2018 18:36:20 GMT
Infection control at the hospital used to run a little experiment...send u to wash your hands thoroughly in the Ladies and then swab them on your return...just to show how much bacteria present on your hands due to opening the door. I would really wash my hands well then wait for some one to open the door...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 18:46:29 GMT
Two things that always 'get' me: 1. Toilet door handles. You may have washed your hands - but to get out you have to open the door, and often that handle is wet, and how many hundreds have had their hands on their privates and used that handle? 2. Doctors surgeries / health stations - isn't it great to cram everybody together with unknown diseases into a small waiting room, all coughing and sneezing over you?! I never open a public toilet door handle without covering my hand with something usually pulling my t shirt or sweater over my hand a bit. And normal taps are a nightmare. People with dirty hands interact with the tap OK they wash their hands but who washes the tap? Those hospital taps are good to be fair. Wave-on type taps are quite good. I would advocate wave-on doors with electric actuators but I suppose they would confuse the pissheads too much. What I really hate is the Dyson air blade hand driers. Another lie "the most hygienic hand drier". No it isn't because you put your hand in there and it is blown against that horrible rubber lip where the shit from everyone else's hands ends up!! Totally unhygienic. The only truly hygienic machine hand drier is one which blows are directly down with some heat. Dyson is full of shit. Full.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 18:56:14 GMT
Corner of the jacket is a good idea I'm terrible with personal hygiene in the traditional sense (soap dodger) but I do believe in keeping an eye on obviously nasty hygiene things. Too clean is bad and can cause lack of immunity but you do want to avoid the really nasty stuff.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 28, 2018 18:59:43 GMT
Infection control at the hospital used to run a little experiment... Seriously, it's an almost impossibly long subject, diseases and the control of them. What constitutes a disease? And we need exposure to 'bugs' (bacteria, viruses, etc.) to keep our immune systems up-to-date, yes? It will eventually come down to the subject of Genetics, and that's still a jungle of unfathomable depth. Isn't it so that every adult human's weight is composed of around 2 kilogrammes of bacteria? It would appear that those bacteria 'are' us and we are them to an extent. In that we somehow share genes. In a similar way to the mitochondria of cells - the units that turn food into energy - apparently once these were individual and separate organisms that other cells absorbed. Our mitochondria are not really us (they have RNA as opposed to DNA, as I recall) but live in symbiosis within our own cells. We still don't know properly how genes work. What is 'human'? It gets weirder the closer you look, as with atoms and their constituents.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 28, 2018 19:03:42 GMT
Two things that always 'get' me: 1. Toilet door handles. You may have washed your hands - but to get out you have to open the door, and often that handle is wet, and how many hundreds have had their hands on their privates and used that handle? 2. Doctors surgeries / health stations - isn't it great to cram everybody together with unknown diseases into a small waiting room, all coughing and sneezing over you?! The only truly hygienic machine hand drier is one which blows are directly down with some heat. Those you have to start by pressing the big - wet! - button? Still, then, what about human mites? Look at yourself with an electron microscope and be horrified! Take us to your leader!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 19:05:14 GMT
No the one with the proximity or is it an optical sensor to switch it on.
I use my elbow to turn on the World Drier type with the big wet button.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 19:10:59 GMT
They're beautiful. I'd be proud to have them on me.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 29, 2018 21:59:57 GMT
Anyway the point is that for normal people, some infection is a good thing as it gives one's immune system something to do. Obviously if you are immunocompromised then you have to be more careful.
The proliferation of ridiculous bacteriocidal surface cleaners is what is behind the epidemic of allergies (eg asthma and possibly food allergies) in children and the increase in childhood leukaemia. According to Foxy, any parent found wiping their surfaces down with bacteriocide should have their children taken into care.
Tiny kids should be allowed to play in dirt. That is how it used to be and we then had only a tiny fraction of these modern autoimmune/allergic issues.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 22:25:57 GMT
You do know such a lot about such a lot. I vote for you to be in charge innit Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 29, 2018 22:41:04 GMT
You do know such a lot about such a lot. I vote for you to be in charge innit Rog I know this because Jeff was a Haematology CNS and knows that there is plenty of validated research showing that excessive home cleanliness has a close link with various childhood ailments including leukaemia. And anyway it is common sense. He studied for a degree and then an MA in such things and as the one who had to proof read his essays, I inevitably gleaned stuff from that process.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 22:44:42 GMT
By choosing Jeff, you engineered that outcome. Did you see what I did there Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 29, 2018 22:50:27 GMT
By choosing Jeff, you engineered that outcome. Did you see what I did there Rog No, you’ll have to explain it.
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