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Post by paulhd on Apr 19, 2021 20:56:47 GMT
Bodger and Patty. Thanks for your comments. 👍
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Post by paulhd on Apr 19, 2021 20:58:49 GMT
went to the bible for an official definition...... and found that I have been calling it by a slightly incorrect term for the last 6o years !!!
according to the Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea " Baggywrinkle sometimes written as Bag-O'-Wrinkle, a home-made substance to prevent chafe on sails from the *lifts, *stays, and *crosstrees during long periods of sailing .........."
No "Baggy Wrinkle" ...... ah well nobody's perfect
traditionally it was made from old rope, stranded and cut into short lengths and tied to a double line ....... you end up with a long fuzzy caterpiller of rope ends which you wind round the shrouds and seize in place.
You will often see it in illustrations of Thames Sailing Barges ..... I was taught to make it by the skipper of the barge "Petrel" ..... as I say about 60 years ago !!!
Great info John. 👍
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Post by bodger on Apr 20, 2021 8:42:12 GMT
dare I suggest that the source has got it wrong?
in my experience baggywrinkles are normally fixed around shrouds, it would only be necessary to fit to stays (the mast supporting wires in a fore-and-aft direction) if, for instances, there were 2 foresails. probably the best person to consult would be the Honourable Good Lady G who resides in the other place and boasts of 40 years on the ocean briny and is the self-appointed expert on all things boaty.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 9:07:26 GMT
in my experience baggywrinkles are normally fixed around shrouds, it would only be necessary to fit to stays (the mast supporting wires in a fore-and-aft direction) if, for instances, there were 2 foresails. The Drascombe is (or can be) cutter-rigged.
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Post by paulhd on May 12, 2021 8:46:04 GMT
As I will be mostly on the Thames this season I have made a 6 foot crutch for the mast. This will make it a little more comfortable to move around the cockpit with the mast down.
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That's a lovely little boat for the River.
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Post by paulhd on May 12, 2021 20:46:49 GMT
That's a lovely little boat for the River. Cheers Andrew, I am looking forward to getting her out on the river very soon.
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Post by paulhd on May 14, 2021 9:40:22 GMT
Here is the wood that was covered up by the carpet. Had to use petrol to get the carpet glue off and then a sand and one coat of varnish. I have added the forest scene for a bit of interest but I may replace that with a clock.
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Post by paulhd on May 24, 2021 13:32:27 GMT
I was thinking proper pod motor on bottom of boat and steer with rudder. Hi Andrew, I had my first trip out on the Thames at the weekend and it was great. It was only a quick trip from Chiswick to Richmond lock and when I got back I only wished for two things. 1. The weather could of been nicer and 2 It would of been just perfect to have an electric motor. The Mariner 5HP was pretty noisy and very vibey. Would you say the 6hp would be a lot quieter? I have been looking at the Epropulsion pod which would be perfect but that is some serious money. I am waiting to hear from some drascombe owners as to what they think of the electric alternative. I think they are using a Propulsion spirit evo. It looks like an outboard with the battery on top. I think they are the equivalent to a 3hp. I think I would keep the petrol for coastal trips but have the electric for the Thames as I will not be under sail for most of the time. Here are a few clips of my outing with the noisy old Mariner.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 13:52:28 GMT
I was thinking proper pod motor on bottom of boat and steer with rudder. Hi Andrew, I had my first trip out on the Thames at the weekend and it was great. It was only a quick trip from Chiswick to Richmond lock and when I got back I only wished for two things. 1. The weather could of been nicer and 2 It would of been just perfect to have an electric motor. The Mariner 5HP was pretty noisy and very vibey. Would you say the 6hp would be a lot quieter? I have been looking at the Epropulsion pod which would be perfect but that is some serious money. I am waiting to hear from some drascombe owners as to what they think of the electric alternative. I think they are using a Propulsion spirit evo. It looks like an outboard with the battery on top. I think they are the equivalent to a 3hp. I think I would keep the petrol for coastal trips but have the electric for the Thames as I will not be under sail for most of the time. Here are a few clips of my outing with the noisy old Mariner. I bought an Aquamot for my dinghy but I think EPropulsion would be a better bet. According to someone I spoke to in the trade the Aquamot has very poor customer service. you are basically on your own. Also smaller battery capacity. The epropulsion while probably not as durable, will give better outcomes if something goes wrong with it. Much cheaper I think the Water snake 70lb brushless trolling motor sounds interesting. £400 and it will run on a normal 12v battery. I've not played with one so no idea what they are like but 70lb is pretty healthy and brushless should reduce the power consumption. It's quite a heavy boat by the look of it so would probably want a fairly hefty motor. Another option is a Minn Kota 36lb thrust motor. You can buy just the pod from USA then it's a matter of adapting it to the bottom of the boat and getting wiring in etc. I've actually got two of them. They are incredibly powerful units but thirsty on power. I haven't tried it but I think a 3 way switch to run on 12,24 or 36v would be lovely for one of the Minn Kota. They are fine on 12v if a bit slow. Straight onto 36v is a bit heavy on the mounting hardware. 4QD PWM controller would be the ideal thing but not cheap.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 14:00:09 GMT
To get a quieter petrol outboard you need a twin cylinder. This will usually be an 8 or more 4 stroke and heavy (35kg+). Other approach is what bodger has done get a small two cylinder 2 smoke outboard like an evirude 4. Nice and smooth.
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Post by thebfg on May 24, 2021 14:00:25 GMT
I was thinking proper pod motor on bottom of boat and steer with rudder. Hi Andrew, I had my first trip out on the Thames at the weekend and it was great. It was only a quick trip from Chiswick to Richmond lock and when I got back I only wished for two things. 1. The weather could of been nicer and 2 It would of been just perfect to have an electric motor. The Mariner 5HP was pretty noisy and very vibey. Would you say the 6hp would be a lot quieter? I have been looking at the Epropulsion pod which would be perfect but that is some serious money. I am waiting to hear from some drascombe owners as to what they think of the electric alternative. I think they are using a Propulsion spirit evo. It looks like an outboard with the battery on top. I think they are the equivalent to a 3hp. I think I would keep the petrol for coastal trips but have the electric for the Thames as I will not be under sail for most of the time. Here are a few clips of my outing with the noisy old Mariner. Nice video and nice boat. Sounds like you really enjoyed it.
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The aquamot I got is the 1.1kw version of this one. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254369044754Not cheap but not that expensive compared to others and the pod and leg is a true thing of beauty. A one piece casting and very nice too. It is quite interesting that they have used generic battery and controller parts because it means the motor can readily be run off a normal 48v ebike battery (NMC lithium type) so you are not totally reliant on the manufacturer's batteries. Would look a bit weird crocodile clips etc but the thing would work. I really like it but it definitely has some issues and I don't know how long it will last for. An example is the silly battery percentage gauge gets water in it. I sikaflexed a plastic board over it as don't want water getting to speed controller but this obviously invalidates the warranty! Aquamot:
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Post by paulhd on May 24, 2021 16:58:48 GMT
To get a quieter petrol outboard you need a twin cylinder. OK understood. Nice video and nice boat. Sounds like you really enjoyed it. Thanks bfg. I just love it out on the water. The aquamot I got is the 1.1kw version of this one. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254369044754Not cheap but not that expensive compared to others and the pod and leg is a true thing of beauty. A one piece casting and very nice too. It is quite interesting that they have used generic battery and controller parts because it means the motor can readily be run off a normal 48v ebike battery (NMC lithium type) so you are not totally reliant on the manufacturer's batteries. Would look a bit weird crocodile clips etc but the thing would work. I really like it but it definitely has some issues and I don't know how long it will last for. An example is the silly battery percentage gauge gets water in it. I sikaflexed a plastic board over it as don't want water getting to speed controller but this obviously invalidates the warranty! Aquamot: Thanks for the info Andrew. I am liking the option of having a remote throttle that the Epropulsion offers. I think it is a cool gadget😃 The only problem is finding a place with them in stock.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 10:18:33 GMT
paulhdI should correct myself I didn't mean a 36lb thrust motor I meant a 36 VOLT minn Kota motor. They are more like 100lb thrust. Example Riptide 101. DIY job for that they are about £350 from USA. I did find a UK supplier but forgot where. A little 36lb won't do much on that sort of boat. Sorry for the error. Yes the Epropulsion remote throttles look really good. Big investment but it would be well worth it for a boat like that I reckon. I spoke to someone not long ago about the Epropulsion he was going to be getting a container load of them quite soon. Not sure which company he was. It was a call back from an online enquiry. Will see if I can find out. It was Epropulsion UK I spoke to. epropulsion.uk/epropulsion-electric-outboards/I think they sell them but not sure, they might go out to dealers.
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