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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 19:01:58 GMT
3310 is a good bomb maker phone. Nice and easy to dismantle and also pretty straightforward to make it into a trigger operated calling device like for example a door alarm due to the old school speed dial and physical buttons rather than touch screen. I once modified one in such a way that it would be able to start the heating from a call from another phone and in turn confirm via a call to the other phone when the heating was up to temperature using the contacts on a thermostat. Then the heating stopped working for other reasons (old Mikuni). Never fixed it. I have considered trying to remotely light the solid fuel stove with a phone connected via a battery to matches wrapped in nichrome wire under a firwlighter and kindling and some coal. It would work but lighting a solid fuel stove when not aboard is too risky. It would be possible to wire the phone to call indicating a overheat but duck all you could do about it. So not worth it.
Old Nokias are wicked. They also have a countdown feature which you can use to set the bomb off in the event you are not able to get a cell connection. Backup option.
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Post by patty on Jan 17, 2019 19:12:15 GMT
Ive had a couple of noikia phones...they lasted..still have one locked away which has most unpleasant messages stored on it.... My son had one of the early ones that survived being run over by a taxi
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 17, 2019 19:17:55 GMT
Ive had a couple of noikia phones...they lasted..still have one locked away which has most unpleasant messages stored on it.... Your booking is confirmed and you are about to spend a week on a narrowboat with a ginger poof?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 19:24:31 GMT
Ive had a couple of noikia phones...they lasted..still have one locked away which has most unpleasant messages stored on it.... Your booking is confirmed and you are about to spend a week on a narrowboat with a ginger poof? And a bag of peas!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 19:46:41 GMT
Before all this eu shit kicked off, I always thought Brexit was a Yorkshire word for a fatty sitting in a chair and breaking it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 17, 2019 20:01:18 GMT
No David Cameron created this situation and then ran away. The politicians are like kids that have had two years to do their homework, but they are doing it at the last minute. A second referendum would increase the uncertainty and just prolong the situation. Jim as I've asked you before do you really think the eu would let us stay in now with no repercussions? Yes they would welcome us back. "Just like that!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 20:21:32 GMT
Why would anyone wish to rejoin EU membership when freaks like this are in charge?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 20:25:16 GMT
Why would anyone wish to rejoin EU membership when freaks like this are in charge? We haven't left yet - get with the programme freak.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 20:33:25 GMT
Why would anyone wish to rejoin EU membership when freaks like this are in charge? We haven't left yet - get with the programme freak. Prick.
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Post by Albion on Jan 17, 2019 20:34:01 GMT
Nope, even in that one I was saying that after having voted Remain, the Remain voters should not be allowed to enter a vote in which choice of leave that Leavers wanted. It would have been a choice that only leavers were allowed to make because the Remainers had already made their primary choice. Once a Leaver had chosen leave then they would have the choice of which of two versions of leave they preferred. Otherwise, if given a straight three way choice on the referendum paper of Remain, Leave with a deal, Leave with no deal, you automatically split the leave vote numbers and deliver a certain victory to the remain people. That would neither be fair nor democratic. Roger Neither is it fair or democratic that "remain" is not on the ticket, when people can see what the deal is. There could be only 2 choices, remain or deal, if quitters were united in what they want. If they cannot unite thats their problem, they have created the farcical situation. For God's sake. I have said that remain would be on the ticket!!!!!! Also there would be an option to tick leave. That is the primary choice. Then (on the same ballot paper just underneath) there would be a choice of 'with deal' and 'no deal' and the use of that second choice should be restricted to those that voted leave because the remainers have already ticked remain and therefore should not have any influence as we would be remaining under the same conditions as we are now. I can't make it any clearer surely? Just to make sure I have created my own proposed ballot paper below and I really cannot make it any simpler. If the remain side had a majority then the choice made in the second part would be irrelevant. If the leave side won then the choice made in the second part would democratically choose the terms of our departure. Roger Ballot paper in second referendum1. Do you wish the UK to remain in the EU? 2. Do you wish the UK to leave the EU? If you wish the UK to leave the EU (and therefore only if you have ticked option 2) 1. Do you wish to leave the EU with the Government's negotiated deal? 2. Do you wish to leave the EU with no deal on WTO terms?
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Post by kris on Jan 17, 2019 20:37:44 GMT
Neither is it fair or democratic that "remain" is not on the ticket, when people can see what the deal is. There could be only 2 choices, remain or deal, if quitters were united in what they want. If they cannot unite thats their problem, they have created the farcical situation. For God's sake. I have said that remain would be on the ticket!!!!!! Also there would be an option to tick leave. That is the primary choice. Then (on the same ballot paper just underneath) there would be a choice of 'with deal' and 'no deal' and the use off that second choice should be restricted to those that voted leave because the retainers have already ticked remain and therefore should not have any influence as we would be remaining under the same conditions as we are now. I can't make it any clearer surely? Just to make sure I have created my own proposed ballot paper below and I really cannot make it any simpler. If the remain side had a majority then the choice made in the second part would be irrelevant. If the leave side won then the choice made in the second part would democratically choose the terms of our departure. Roger Ballot paper in second referendum1. Do you wish the UK to remain in the EU? 2. Do you wish the UK to leave the EU? If you wish the UK to leave the EU (and therefore only if you have ticked option 2) 1. Do you wish to leave the EU with the Government's negotiated deal? 2. Do you wish to leave the EU with no deal on WTO terms? It's simple enough, but Jim will refuse to understand because it's not what he wants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 20:43:19 GMT
It's also irrelevant.
If you ignore the first result, why accept the next ... or best of three etc. etc.
Our ONLY bargaining chip, or leverage, is a no deal exit, which would be in no one's best interests.
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Post by Andyberg on Jan 17, 2019 20:44:15 GMT
For God's sake. I have said that remain would be on the ticket!!!!!! Also there would be an option to tick leave. That is the primary choice. Then (on the same ballot paper just underneath) there would be a choice of 'with deal' and 'no deal' and the use off that second choice should be restricted to those that voted leave because the retainers have already ticked remain and therefore should not have any influence as we would be remaining under the same conditions as we are now. I can't make it any clearer surely? Just to make sure I have created my own proposed ballot paper below and I really cannot make it any simpler. If the remain side had a majority then the choice made in the second part would be irrelevant. If the leave side won then the choice made in the second part would democratically choose the terms of our departure. Roger Ballot paper in second referendum1. Do you wish the UK to remain in the EU? 2. Do you wish the UK to leave the EU? If you wish the UK to leave the EU (and therefore only if you have ticked option 2) 1. Do you wish to leave the EU with the Government's negotiated deal? 2. Do you wish to leave the EU with no deal on WTO terms? It's simple enough, but Jim will refuse to understand because it's not what he wants. Its amazing how, when used together, the words 'simple' and 'Jim' just roll off the tongue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 20:48:32 GMT
It's also irrelevant. If you ignore the first result, why accept the next ... or best of three etc. etc. Our ONLY bargaining chip, or leverage, is a no deal exit, which would be in no one's best interests. Rog That bargaining chip/leverage was lost years ago with the referendum being so close, no way will it get through parliament or a new peoples vote. The EU know this and are not scared by it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 17, 2019 20:49:04 GMT
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