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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:31:49 GMT
I think they call it creative accounting ...... lump it together as towpath vegetation control and people would go "How much" split it and it doesn't look as bad ...... I wonder how much it all adds up to if you include tree surgery The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though.
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Post by JohnV on Feb 18, 2019 19:40:16 GMT
I think they call it creative accounting ...... lump it together as towpath vegetation control and people would go "How much" split it and it doesn't look as bad ...... I wonder how much it all adds up to if you include tree surgery The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though. There has been quite a bit done on the bottom end of the Trent but the Ouse upstream of Goole is disgusting, the undergrowth is so high you can't see some of the navigation marks, Below Goole I suspect (but I don't know for certain) that is APB's responsibility (as possibly is the Trent below Keadby)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:40:48 GMT
Going through their last annual accounts, the boaters report does not even compare with it. I'll leave Allan to pick the bones from the meat, he's better at it than I.
Stabby, just concentrate on getting through bridges, and remember, a boat steering operates opposite to a truck 😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:42:03 GMT
I think they call it creative accounting ...... lump it together as towpath vegetation control and people would go "How much" split it and it doesn't look as bad ...... I wonder how much it all adds up to if you include tree surgery The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though. Much of that was lvp and nothing to do with CRT.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:43:30 GMT
The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though. Much of that was lvp and nothing to do with CRT. I did wonder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:44:24 GMT
I see. One figure refers to grass and hedgerow cutting on the towpath side, and the other figure refers to vegetation management on the offside, the overhanging tree branches etc. Canals have two sides. Or have I missed something? If you have, there's a first time for everything Rog Well he missed that bridge hole on the Thames 😂
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 18, 2019 19:45:32 GMT
I think they call it creative accounting ...... lump it together as towpath vegetation control and people would go "How much" split it and it doesn't look as bad ...... I wonder how much it all adds up to if you include tree surgery The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though. Yes, that's what the second figure refers to, tree surgery on overhanging branches on the offside. The reason it says (not trees) is that CRT have no legal right over trees on private land and cannot cut them down or take any other action with regard to them, other than cutting off branches which overhang that which is their responsibility (i.e. the canal) This has been a fundamental principle in English Law for centuries.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 18, 2019 19:47:59 GMT
If you have, there's a first time for everything Rog Well he missed that bridge hole on the Thames 😂 Tony Dunkley's bum appreciates your tongue.
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Post by kris on Feb 18, 2019 19:48:44 GMT
At 5.6 million a year on vegetation (not including tree management), someone is seriously taking the piss, given all the complaints made about lack of both being done. Bad management will kill of the CRT, and along with it, the canals. Well, we live in a free market economy and you are at complete and total liberty to set up a vegetation management company and tender for the work yourself. It was a dodgy back room deal done on that contract, just before Bw became cart. Why would you sign a long term contract (I seem to remember it being 10years) just as the organisation is changing?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:48:50 GMT
Well he missed that bridge hole on the Thames 😂 Tony Dunkley's bum appreciates your tongue. 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 19:50:25 GMT
Well, we live in a free market economy and you are at complete and total liberty to set up a vegetation management company and tender for the work yourself. It was a dodgy back room deal done on that contract, just before Bw became cart. Why would you sign a long term contract (I seem to remember it being 10years) just as the organisation is changing? Yes, Geoff Whyatt was very coy at the time, and now he has organised the buyout of bwml.
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Post by Jim on Feb 18, 2019 19:52:29 GMT
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 18, 2019 20:07:30 GMT
The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though. There has been quite a bit done on the bottom end of the Trent but the Ouse upstream of Goole is disgusting, the undergrowth is so high you can't see some of the navigation marks, Below Goole I suspect (but I don't know for certain) that is APB's responsibility (as possibly is the Trent below Keadby) That's right, John, Naburn to Goole Bridge with the Jungle features obscuring all the lights is C&RT, and from Goole Bridge down is ABP, as is Gainsborough Bridge all the way to Trent End/Apex. Incidentally, the crazy marker lighting on Goole Bridge is also C&RT's work. I didn't manage to get anywhere with them about it after you and Peter told me what a mess it was, but that's C&RT for you !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 20:11:47 GMT
The amount of tree surgery carried out very recently on the offside of the Lea is impressive - no idea of costs though. There has been quite a bit done on the bottom end of the Trent but the Ouse upstream of Goole is disgusting, the undergrowth is so high you can't see some of the navigation marks, Below Goole I suspect (but I don't know for certain) that is APB's responsibility (as possibly is the Trent below Keadby) Apparently boaters sometimes do a spot of light vegetation management during the course of navigating channels that are not technically wide enough for their vessels or have moored boat obstructions but I am not sure if CRT appreciate this.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 18, 2019 20:21:51 GMT
If you have, there's a first time for everything Rog Well he missed that bridge hole on the Thames 😂 I'm not so sure his eyesight's that good, . . it can't be easy seeing all that much with those protruding Neanderthal brows in the way. I did raise this point with him on the ' Why not introduce yourself Rusty69' thread, but I'm not even sure that he was able to read it: < thunderboat.boards.net/post/162229/thread >
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