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Post by dogless on Sept 5, 2024 19:56:17 GMT
That's the spirit that won us an empire
Rog
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 5, 2024 19:57:59 GMT
Grey oil is most likely about oil mixing with water. If the bigend were about to expire maybe it would have done so already under load. Perhaps change the oil again and run it hard for 30 mins. If it doesn't explode and the oil is grey again perhaps investigate the water pump / impeller or whatever it has, and the seals. I did do another oil change. Head gasket might be gone if it was previously overheated. I will give it a proper run tomorrow morning and see if I can kill it. That would solve the issue. Someone will probably give you £50 or so spares or repair.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 5, 2024 19:58:41 GMT
Grey oil is most likely about oil mixing with water. If the bigend were about to expire maybe it would have done so already under load. Perhaps change the oil again and run it hard for 30 mins. If it doesn't explode and the oil is grey again perhaps investigate the water pump / impeller or whatever it has, and the seals. Head gasket might be gone if it was previously overheated. You could make a head gasket for that out of a beer can.
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Post by on Sept 5, 2024 20:05:48 GMT
I suppose to be fair if the head gasket was fucked it might not push the Boat along perfectly well at speed.
This might just be due to me winding down the tickover. If I wind it back out maybe it will all go swimmingly.
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 5, 2024 20:30:08 GMT
I suppose to be fair if the head gasket was fucked it might not push the Boat along perfectly well at speed. This might just be due to me winding down the tickover. If I wind it back out maybe it will all go swimmingly. Neither would the crank bearings. If it lives look at the water pump seals. Worth noting it doesn't seem that there are many of these things left around though.
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Post by on Sept 5, 2024 20:35:15 GMT
I suppose to be fair if the head gasket was fucked it might not push the Boat along perfectly well at speed. This might just be due to me winding down the tickover. If I wind it back out maybe it will all go swimmingly. Neither would the crank bearings. If it lives look at the water pump seals. Worth noting it doesn't seem that there are many of these things left around though. Yes there seems to be a glut of parts. I saw an ad for the same engine being broken and in the background there was another one. Obsolete equipment I guess. Lots and lots of second hand parts for these. Not a particularly good sign. Firstly they may always get stolen and secondly they may break easily. Probably mostly stolen !
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 5, 2024 20:40:18 GMT
Neither would the crank bearings. If it lives look at the water pump seals. Worth noting it doesn't seem that there are many of these things left around though. Yes there seems to be a glut of parts. I saw an ad for the same engine being broken and in the background there was another one. Obsolete equipment I guess. Lots and lots of second hand parts for these. Not a particularly good sign. Firstly they may always get stolen and secondly they may break easily. Probably mostly stolen ! The easily nicked element is the main drawback with outboards. Apart from the fact that modern ones are a pig to work on. Not meant to be rebuilt. But impeller seals are likely cheep.
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Post by on Sept 5, 2024 20:42:59 GMT
I like to be generally quite relaxed with the Podium but this Taskmaster makes me want to just rag it around like a yobbo all over the place.
Its a completely different animal. If I can get that to be a 15hp unit I will.
It was funny reading forums and someone said that their Honda guru told them the camshaft and timing were different. Obviously that is going to be the line from Honda otherwise they would not sell many of the 15hp variants. The fact is they did sell loads of them.
I reckon change the carb and take the limit screw out and it becomes a 15.
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Post by on Sept 5, 2024 20:44:17 GMT
Yes there seems to be a glut of parts. I saw an ad for the same engine being broken and in the background there was another one. Obsolete equipment I guess. Lots and lots of second hand parts for these. Not a particularly good sign. Firstly they may always get stolen and secondly they may break easily. Probably mostly stolen ! The easily nicked element is the main drawback with outboards. Apart from the fact that modern ones are a pig to work on. Not meant to be rebuilt. But impeller seals are likely cheep. I changed the impeller today. Gaskets are okay. Not sure how you think the impeller itself can get involved with the oil. Its mounted just above the propeller about 2ft away from the sump.
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 5, 2024 21:06:24 GMT
The easily nicked element is the main drawback with outboards. Apart from the fact that modern ones are a pig to work on. Not meant to be rebuilt. But impeller seals are likely cheep. I changed the impeller today. Gaskets are okay. Not sure how you think the impeller itself can get involved with the oil. Its mounted just above the propeller about 2ft away from the sump. I haven't looked at an exploded diagram or nuffink. Just a guess really. But water getting into the oil has to come from somewhere so I am unsurprised you suspect the head gasket. Compression test is best for that if you can't detect obvious signs at the head itself. Test kits are cheap at around £15. But I am like whatever. Compression tests can also indicate trouble at t big end. Problem with small engines is you cannae remove the sump for inspection purposes like on a biggerer engine.
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Post by on Sept 6, 2024 7:30:05 GMT
This particular outboard can be stripped down from the top right down to the sump.
Not sure I can be arsed to do that myself.
I think it probably is toast and not worth pursuing much further. Its too noisy at tickover. Mechanical noise. Something inside has gone wrong which is not surprising considering it was sitting in flood water.
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Post by dogless on Sept 6, 2024 8:02:46 GMT
Better morning ... less wind and the sun clearly trying to break through the clouds.
We were invited to start work a week early (23 Sept) as it's fairly busy there but as we're not planning on getting home until the end of that week, we declined.
Have agreed to start Monday 30 Sept though, so it's our last three weeks travel of the year.
Fairly warm last night but I see it's dropping to 6 degrees overnight next week ... I think the fire will definitely be lit by then.
Winter draws on as they say.
Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 6, 2024 17:10:21 GMT
A couple of photos taken at the Amazon warehouse I delivered to this afternoon. I think this falls into the category of "You only had one job..."
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Sept 6, 2024 17:32:28 GMT
This particular outboard can be stripped down from the top right down to the sump. Never seen an engine which couldn't
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Post by dogless on Sept 7, 2024 10:02:30 GMT
Warm but cloudy ... cruised for an hour and damp like a sea fret.
Moored and dry again now.
Not sure if we'll stay the night or move on ... see what the weather does I guess.
Rog
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