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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 27, 2019 16:41:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 16:58:58 GMT
I love a good black pudding.
Rog
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Post by Jim on Apr 27, 2019 17:12:21 GMT
Remember to use floating rope, so when the fender drops off and sinks the rope floats upwards so it's easily retrieved by a passing propellor. I've found a couple that way!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 18:01:35 GMT
Nightmare fenders.
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Post by patty on Apr 27, 2019 18:29:24 GMT
I had them ..they were rubbish, kept losing them...
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 27, 2019 19:11:25 GMT
Oh come on - 7 fenders for a tenner? I'd have them, but we already have enough, 4 on each side.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 19:36:19 GMT
The problem is they are made with nasty black rubber which has a higher specific gravity than water. So they sink if they become detached from the boat.
The most likely place for this to happen is entering and exiting locks. They get caught in gates.
So you have a sunken rubber tube with or without a rope still attached. Sometimes a knot is used to keep the rope on and sometimes a steel washer. If the former it could pull right out if the latter the rope would probably break somewhere .
OK. Other things which happen at locks are boats accelerating or decelerating so lots of propellers thrashing around and lock gates being opened and closed.
So either the thing ends up on someone's prop via its rope or it stops a lock gate closing properly by resting between gates and sill.
Use floating fenders!!
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 27, 2019 19:40:50 GMT
Rubbish. We have 8 of these (although longer than those advertised) and they work perfectly well. Very happy to have them. As mentioned earlier, I am replacing the strings with new string (lawnmower starter cord) and new washers - first painted with red oxide, and then a top gloss coat, to lengthen their life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 19:42:46 GMT
Yes I can believe that your fenders don't end up in the cut but I can assure you some do. I have had these rubber fenders out with the magnet there must be loads of them in there. One of the mechanisms whereby they end up in the water are those clips people use to hang fender ropes onto canted handrails (those box section handrails on trad boats which don't break your hands off). The clip things slide and jump off depositing the sinking fender in the cut with the rope and clip thing still attached. Using tubular handrails is terribly dangerous but less likely to result in shed fenders. It also depends on the weight of the boat obviously.
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Post by Jim on Apr 28, 2019 6:16:36 GMT
The problem is they are made with nasty black rubber which has a higher specific gravity than water. So they sink if they become detached from the boat. The most likely place for this to happen is entering and exiting locks. They get caught in gates. So you have a sunken rubber tube with or without a rope still attached. Sometimes a knot is used to keep the rope on and sometimes a steel washer. If the former it could pull right out if the latter the rope would probably break somewhere . OK. Other things which happen at locks are boats accelerating or decelerating so lots of propellers thrashing around and lock gates being opened and closed. So either the thing ends up on someone's prop via its rope or it stops a lock gate closing properly by resting between gates and sill. Use floating fenders!! I'm sure I already said this, concisely!
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Post by Jim on Apr 28, 2019 6:21:05 GMT
Yes I can believe that your fenders don't end up in the cut but I can assure you some do. I have had these rubber fenders out with the magnet there must be loads of them in there. One of the mechanisms whereby they end up in the water are those clips people use to hang fender ropes onto canted handrails (those box section handrails on trad boats which don't break your hands off). The clip things slide and jump off depositing the sinking fender in the cut with the rope and clip thing still attached. Using tubular handrails is terribly dangerous but less likely to result in shed fenders. It also depends on the weight of the boat obviously. Explain the handrail stuff. Perhaps this only happens down south? Get a grip, a good grip, like on a tubular handrail.
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Post by kris on Apr 28, 2019 7:17:41 GMT
Yes I can believe that your fenders don't end up in the cut but I can assure you some do. I have had these rubber fenders out with the magnet there must be loads of them in there. One of the mechanisms whereby they end up in the water are those clips people use to hang fender ropes onto canted handrails (those box section handrails on trad boats which don't break your hands off). The clip things slide and jump off depositing the sinking fender in the cut with the rope and clip thing still attached. Using tubular handrails is terribly dangerous but less likely to result in shed fenders. It also depends on the weight of the boat obviously. Explain the handrail stuff. Perhaps this only happens down south? Get a grip, a good grip, like on a tubular handrail. He gets these funny ideas into his head, I'd rather have a tubular handrail than one of those silly dangerous box section ones which are lethal if it's wet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 7:20:54 GMT
Rail type handrails can trap your hand if you slip off the side deck / gunnel it can cause a nasty injury if you are unable to release your grip fast enough. Box or cant type rails can not do that obviously. It does depend on the type of rail and height above the cabin top. The worst being raised flat rails like they had on the old Yarwoods "Northwich" GUCCCo boats. Knuckle crackers. Tubular are better but anything which invites you to wrap your hand right around it CAN present a nasty surprise IF you did slip off narrow gunnels suddenly The one time I slipped off gunnels of a narrow boat it happened very fast and it had cant/box handrails so I went into the water. If it had raised bar or tube rails and my grip had been right around it I'm not sure I would have been able to let go. I'd rather be in the water than hanging off the side of a boat with a broken wrist. Its the speed at which it happens that's the problem.
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Post by kris on Apr 28, 2019 7:24:22 GMT
The most important word in that post is "CAN" yes anything can happen. The sky can fall on your head or a sinkhole can open up and swallow you, but how often do these things happen?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 7:29:54 GMT
The sky fell on me last week. That was bad.
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