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Post by metanoia on Oct 24, 2019 18:21:59 GMT
If you'd READ what I wrote (rather than just altering it) I said it was meaningless and didn't mention law at all. As long as you've paid your licence money, it's no one's business but yours and C&RT's. As long as the number is displayed C&RT , and indeed you, can check on line if any boat is licensed or not. For someone so introverted they won't take a pee in a public loo, you seem to like involving yourself in others business.Rog I display my number - but only my last year's paper licence. I might wear wellies if I had to frequent a communal urinal in the presence of some members. met x
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 18:25:58 GMT
It's every boater's business to see who is riding the canals for free and thus taking the piss. If you are an honest boater and have paid for a licence, there's no reason for not displaying it. One does wonder why you get so het up about this, Jim. Can I email my new one to you so that you can print it off for me and bring it over on your next trip then, pretty please, Ross? met x Yes you can... but will you be bringing your boat to our location so we can hand it over? Of course, we could hand it over to a boat going East and then North, and the relay can continue until some miscellaneous boater bumps into you. But that could take a year, and by then the licence would have expired. As CRT spies read this site - hey, come on guys! Plug the printer in and get a copy sent to Met first thing tomorrow morning, OK? If money is tight at CRT Mansions, you may add the cost of a First Class stamp to our next licence. Thank you so much.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 18:27:39 GMT
If you'd READ what I wrote (rather than just altering it) I said it was meaningless and didn't mention law at all. No, you didn't mention the law, as indeed I didn't mention flying onions. So what? But you DID say NOT displaying a licence is MEANINGLESS. I disagree.
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Post by metanoia on Oct 24, 2019 18:28:06 GMT
As much as I see faults with CRT (lack of dredging, asset stripping the waterways, etc.), I do think they should get tough with the piss-taking parasites. Stabby has mentioned earlier that the cost of a licence is quite reasonable when you look at what you get for it, especially from the angle that if you got the same amount of water from your kitchen tap as you do from filling and emptying locks, and paid for it with domestic water rates, it would cost a lot more that the licence! And that's just the water. The canals and other waterways are, I think, a precious asset to England (Wales and Scotland really don't have the same size network), but money does need to be pumped in to maintain them and keep them open.
Arguments for not displaying your licence (2 small square bits of paper) are childish.Quite agree.... I believe the cost of a licence does represent good value when you look at what you get for it and have always said so. However, I live on my boat out here and I have no "modern accoutrements" (including a printer) - so when I'm able to find a way to send you my annual £1000 if you would like me to shove something in my window (other than my licence plate) please could you respond in kind and let me have something back to show for it? met x
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 18:29:21 GMT
I've been buying boat licenses from CRT and previously BW since 1994.
Obviously as I have untold personal wealth and huge castles nothing can harm me but recently they have stopped sending out printed licenses. And I have not got a printer of my own because I abhor the ink scam.
So what to do? Mix with the plebs in the library or just not have a piece of paper.
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Post by metanoia on Oct 24, 2019 18:31:07 GMT
Can I email my new one to you so that you can print it off for me and bring it over on your next trip then, pretty please, Ross? met x Yes you can... but will you be bringing your boat to our location so we can hand it over? Thank you very much for that, you're very kind. However, I HAVE tried taking it to one of their locations to hand it over - still doesn't work these days..... met x
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 18:33:02 GMT
If you'd READ what I wrote (rather than just altering it) I said it was meaningless and didn't mention law at all. As long as you've paid your licence money, it's no one's business but yours and C&RT's. As long as the number is displayed C&RT , and indeed you, can check on line if any boat is licensed or not. For someone so introverted they won't take a pee in a public loo, you seem to like involving yourself in others business.Rog I might wear wellies if I had to frequent a communal urinal in the presence of some members. You need wellies in the men's toilets of GWR trains and in the toilets at Heathrow Airport - some men must just wave their willy from side to side and do pirouettes whilst having a slash. Aeroplane toilets and toilets in Finnish trains are no better - and just who is it who throws toilet paper all over the floor?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 18:36:07 GMT
If you'd READ what I wrote (rather than just altering it) I said it was meaningless and didn't mention law at all. No, you didn't the law, as indeed I didn't mention flying onions. So what? But you DID say NOT displaying a licence is MEANINGLESS. I disagree. It is reassuring and pleasing to know you disagree ... I am happy you disagree. According to your rantings on thunderboat, vast numbers of boats are unlicensed ... yet C&RT seem to believe only about 4% of boats are unlicensed. I therefore suggested the display or not of a licence was meaningless. Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 18:37:03 GMT
As much as I see faults with CRT (lack of dredging, asset stripping the waterways, etc.), I do think they should get tough with the piss-taking parasites. Stabby has mentioned earlier that the cost of a licence is quite reasonable when you look at what you get for it, especially from the angle that if you got the same amount of water from your kitchen tap as you do from filling and emptying locks, and paid for it with domestic water rates, it would cost a lot more that the licence! And that's just the water. The canals and other waterways are, I think, a precious asset to England (Wales and Scotland really don't have the same size network), but money does need to be pumped in to maintain them and keep them open.
Arguments for not displaying your licence (2 small square bits of paper) are childish.However, I live on my boat out here and I have no "modern accoutrements" (including a printer) - so when I'm able to find a way to send you my annual £1000 if you would like me to shove something in my window (other than my licence plate) please could you respond in kind and let me have something back to show for it? If you have a smart phone (by the way, just how are you posting here?!) or laptop computer and Internet access, you can easily send an e-mail to CRT and ask for 'something to shove in your window'. Despite the many moans and groans about CRT, they do have office staff who are friendly and helpful. (I can see several people glaring at me, but fair's fair, credit where it's due.)
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 18:39:45 GMT
As much as I see faults with CRT (lack of dredging, asset stripping the waterways, etc.), I do think they should get tough with the piss-taking parasites. Stabby has mentioned earlier that the cost of a licence is quite reasonable when you look at what you get for it, especially from the angle that if you got the same amount of water from your kitchen tap as you do from filling and emptying locks, and paid for it with domestic water rates, it would cost a lot more that the licence! And that's just the water. The canals and other waterways are, I think, a precious asset to England (Wales and Scotland really don't have the same size network), but money does need to be pumped in to maintain them and keep them open.
Arguments for not displaying your licence (2 small square bits of paper) are childish. "modern accoutrements" I do like that term. Perhaps these are to your taste? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Novelty-Ceramic-Salt-Pepper-Pots-Condiment-Set-Salt-and-Pepper-Pot-Sheep/293288026521?hash=item4449542199%3Ag%3AkOsAAOSwFQVdrF6h&LH_Auction=1Still two days to bid!!
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 18:43:49 GMT
No, you didn't the law, as indeed I didn't mention flying onions. So what? But you DID say NOT displaying a licence is MEANINGLESS. I disagree. According to your rantings on Thunderboat, vast numbers of boats are unlicensed ... yet C&RT seem to believe only about 4% of boats are unlicensed. I altered your message - have some respect for this site No - I have said that loads and loads and loads of boats are parked up not displaying licences. Who can tell if the licence checker is telling the truth - I did try it and it says things like 'This boat is licenced but perhaps the owner has forgotten to display their licence.' What - 'forgotten' for three years?!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 18:47:24 GMT
Just change the oils and get on with it
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Post by metanoia on Oct 24, 2019 18:48:03 GMT
I have a dumbphone, I have email - I liaise with CRT quite often (not least because I no longer receive stoppage notices - tricky when you are a GENUINE cc'r) and I agree there are some very pleasant and helpful people (most of whom are sadly fairly ignorant of our waterways) on the 0300 number.
I concur - I do get quite a lot for my £930 licence - but if you want me to put a piece of paper in my window saying I have it - send me that, please.
I haven't driven a car in more than 12 years now but I believe for an awful lot less money car drivers are no longer obliged to?
Of course, you will know better.
met x
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Post by metanoia on Oct 24, 2019 18:50:32 GMT
Just change the oils and get on with it I believe he still hasn't the gall to change the fuel filter ….. Only a litre or so (fetch those wellies) … met x
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 24, 2019 18:52:56 GMT
What fascinates me in those T&C’s is 7.2 “ You must . . . follow our lawful directions, spoken or written (including signs). This includes signs that prohibit mooring or limit the period you may moor the Boat at specific locations.” As they failed, in pushing the 1990 Bill, to have the power to give such directions entered into the Act, all such ‘directions’ remain unlawful, the existing byelaws having made no such provision - nor any since then, introduced. So term 7.2 is, to use a favourite word of theirs, otiose.
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