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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 22, 2020 8:36:57 GMT
From that linked article, how can the sea level be rising 3mm/year everywhere else but the Western Pacific where it's rising 12mm/year. Doesn't water flow about and level out? That's why yachts need engines, to drive uphill when they approach the Western Pacific.
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Post by peterboat on Jan 22, 2020 9:17:43 GMT
From that linked article, how can the sea level be rising 3mm/year everywhere else but the Western Pacific where it's rising 12mm/year. Doesn't water flow about and level out? Some seas are more unequal than others? maybe the 3mm is an average? who knows but peoples homes are going under the water and we have the ability to change our ways to stop this but the reality is the majority would rather children and grandchildren died than they spoiled their lifestyle sad really
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 22, 2020 9:41:01 GMT
From that linked article, how can the sea level be rising 3mm/year everywhere else but the Western Pacific where it's rising 12mm/year. Doesn't water flow about and level out? Some seas are more unequal than others? maybe the 3mm is an average? who knows but peoples homes are going under the water and we have the ability to change our ways to stop this but the reality is the majority would rather children and grandchildren died than they spoiled their lifestyle sad really It seems to me that when someone wants to make a point they exaggerate/manipulate their findings. Call me a cynic but when you're trying to make the point that the pacific islands are disappearing under water, 12mm/years sounds more worrying than 3mm. In general when reading on this subject, where the focus is on some low lying land the sea level is said to be rising exponentially faster than everywhere else. I'm not a denier but I am a cynic. Behind every spouting of doom is an appeal for cash in some form be it charity, government or world wide funding.
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Post by peterboat on Jan 22, 2020 10:01:29 GMT
Some seas are more unequal than others? maybe the 3mm is an average? who knows but peoples homes are going under the water and we have the ability to change our ways to stop this but the reality is the majority would rather children and grandchildren died than they spoiled their lifestyle sad really It seems to me that when someone wants to make a point they exaggerate/manipulate their findings. Call me a cynic but when you're trying to make the point that the pacific islands are disappearing under water, 12mm/years sounds more worrying than 3mm. In general when reading on this subject, where the focus is on some low lying land the sea level is said to be rising exponentially faster than everywhere else. I'm not a denier but I am a cynic. Behind every spouting of doom is an appeal for cash in some form be it charity, government or world wide funding. I get you, I watched a program last year where the islanders had lost their Island home and the new Island they had moved to was going fast as well! They didnt want money, they wanted people to stop the pollution that was costing them their homes and lives
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jan 22, 2020 11:32:27 GMT
This attitude/concept doesn't seem to bother those living in 'The Third World' where they are already subject to poverty. And the Third World citizens seem to have no qualms about moving to the UK, despite the overpopulation that already exists there. If people in the UK have less children, the vacuum will simply be filled. Nature abhors a vacuum. To me, perhaps the solution is to limit families to 4 children (?). Anyway, those living in London think: "The World is overcrowded!", those living in Jasper, Alberta are thinking: "Hey, where is everybody?!!" There is still plenty of surface on this planet to support a few billion more. And when the box begins to fill with rats you will soon see them starting to bite and scratch the others. The fight for survival, says The Selfish Gene. Shellfish gene in the case of oysters. You are wrong Foxy this country was full a long time ago, other areas are uninhabitable due to rising seas are they are desrts and can only support a little life. We are in the mess we are in because of thinking like yours, I woould in this country remove all benefits from having children all child care packages the lot! IVF would stop we have enough parent less children here and all over the world for people that cant have children, we are destroying the planet and ourselves, maybe we will get lucky and some disaster will wipe out four fiths of the population which would give things time to recover Wise words Peter but no doubt Gazza will be along shortly, he doesn't believe that people who have children should pay for them. He gets very angry when people don't agree with his way of things
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 22, 2020 11:41:50 GMT
You are wrong Foxy this country was full a long time ago, other areas are uninhabitable due to rising seas are they are desrts and can only support a little life. We are in the mess we are in because of thinking like yours, I woould in this country remove all benefits from having children all child care packages the lot! IVF would stop we have enough parent less children here and all over the world for people that cant have children, we are destroying the planet and ourselves, maybe we will get lucky and some disaster will wipe out four fiths of the population which would give things time to recover Wise words Peter but no doubt Gazza will be along shortly, he doesn't believe that people who have children should pay for them. He gets very angry when people don't agree with his way of things Let it go. It's a simple fact that the majority of voters will have kids or will have had kids who have kids who have kids who have kids...To win an election you have to throw them bones. If you say you're going to cut off the bone supply you would loose the election so it can't happen. It's yet another stupid thing the electorate have to put up with like the legalisation of drugs which anyone can see would benefit the majority with reduced crime and violence. Can't happen because it's an election loosing policy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 11:45:21 GMT
And the death penalty. the plebs are too stupid to be allowed to vote on such an important matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 11:48:06 GMT
[Let it go. (Warning this is a proper explicit one right from the start - you have been warned). I'm a little surprised YouTube allowed it on their platform actually as it really is rather coarse !!
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Post by ianali on Jan 22, 2020 13:04:58 GMT
You are wrong Foxy this country was full a long time ago, other areas are uninhabitable due to rising seas are they are desrts and can only support a little life. We are in the mess we are in because of thinking like yours, I woould in this country remove all benefits from having children all child care packages the lot! IVF would stop we have enough parent less children here and all over the world for people that cant have children, we are destroying the planet and ourselves, maybe we will get lucky and some disaster will wipe out four fiths of the population which would give things time to recover Wise words Peter but no doubt Gazza will be along shortly, he doesn't believe that people who have children should pay for them. He gets very angry when people don't agree with his way of things And when we run out of young people who will take care of the old guys on here? I think we need more children. The problems at the othe end, people living to long. Best plan would be euthanasia, set the bar at a reasonable figure, 65? Would cure so many problems.
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Post by ianali on Jan 22, 2020 13:06:55 GMT
[Let it go. (Warning this is a proper explicit one right from the start - you have been warned). I'm a little surprised YouTube allowed it on their platform actually as it really is rather coarse !! Not to mention rather rubbish.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 13:25:52 GMT
Wise words Peter but no doubt Gazza will be along shortly, he doesn't believe that people who have children should pay for them. He gets very angry when people don't agree with his way of things And when we run out of young people who will take care of the old guys on here? I think we need more children. The problems at the othe end, people living to long. Best plan would be euthanasia, set the bar at a reasonable figure, 65? Would cure so many problems. It's possible that the whole doom and gloom end of world miserableness discussions could push up suicide rates. That would be quite good as it may help to decrease population density. If people just got it done instead of being a burden society would be a better place. I know it's a bit of a taboo topic but having had 5 suicides in my mother's family, 3 of which were in my lifetime, I sometimes wonder if it is actually one of the more intelligent ways to deal with things. It's always associated with depression and really bad shit but it could actually be the act of an enlightened person who realises they are no longer required. Sort of like the antithesis of hospice care and long term medication solutions. It takes a bit of doing I suppose which is where the euthanasia and assisted suicide comes in but then you get situations where other family members are looking at the money or the inconvenience associated with close care of a relative. It's much better for someone to kill themselves when they are in a sound state and not being influenced by others. I'd rather be pushing up daisies than impose elderly parent care on my children.
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Post by bodger on Jan 22, 2020 14:00:34 GMT
Horizon on 21 Jan narrated by Chris Packham was really on point............ he even questioned the morality of curing old people including his forebears at a time when health costs are spiralling out of control, along with unprecedented life expectancy figures.
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Post by peterboat on Jan 22, 2020 15:26:58 GMT
Wise words Peter but no doubt Gazza will be along shortly, he doesn't believe that people who have children should pay for them. He gets very angry when people don't agree with his way of things And when we run out of young people who will take care of the old guys on here? I think we need more children. The problems at the othe end, people living to long. Best plan would be euthanasia, set the bar at a reasonable figure, 65? Would cure so many problems. The problem is Ian 65 isnt old anymore I know plenty of coffin dodgers who are fitter than the average 18 year old!! I when I cant do the stuff that I want, or am losing my marbles, long term sick with no hope of cure dont want to be around anymore! So I should have the choice to fall asleep and not wake up job done
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Post by ianali on Jan 22, 2020 15:44:54 GMT
And when we run out of young people who will take care of the old guys on here? I think we need more children. The problems at the othe end, people living to long. Best plan would be euthanasia, set the bar at a reasonable figure, 65? Would cure so many problems. The problem is Ian 65 isnt old anymore I know plenty of coffin dodgers who are fitter than the average 18 year old!! I when I cant do the stuff that I want, or am losing my marbles, long term sick with no hope of cure dont want to be around anymore! So I should have the choice to fall asleep and not wake up job done 65 is well old.. I’ve heard loads of kids say so.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 22, 2020 16:09:59 GMT
If you are 65 or older, line yourselves up in a straight line along the road. I will be along in my bus shortly. Think of the children, you selfish old gits!
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