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Post by Delta9 on Sept 11, 2016 10:11:06 GMT
They want to treat us like non-EU citizens after we leave the EU? Shocking revelation.
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Post by phil70 on Sept 11, 2016 10:40:48 GMT
So why may we need a visa after leaving? we didn't need one before we joined.
Phil
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Post by Graham on Sept 11, 2016 10:43:43 GMT
Oh terrible, but then we will be asking EU people to buy a Great British visa. What is the problem.
Mind you way before the EU travel to France was on a visa free scheme so long as you had photographic ID. I often travelled on my driving licence in those days.
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Post by PaulG2 on Sept 11, 2016 15:29:12 GMT
Spain has how many British retirees living there and contributing to local economies? I doubt they want to make travel for Brits to the EU more complicated. If this did pass, expect to find that you will be able to find a Spain issued EU visa inside every box of Cracker Jacks you order from your local Spanish embassy.
How many Brits holiday in the EU each year? The tourism industry may not be as almighty as bankers, but they do pull a lot of political weight. Imagine the concept, from a tourism standpoint, of making a long-trusted friend now have to apply for entry. This would have devastating effects on EU tourism, and for no reason other than to be petty.
How many EU folks holiday in the UK each year, and don't want their travels complicated with more forms and more fees? Not only tourist, though! London is a major financial hub. Many thousands of people travel in and out of London every week doing business. The financial sector will not take kindly to restrictions on travel, or on increased cost of travel.
All in all this seems like some of the EU hoi polloi got their panties ruffled by Brexit and are trying to be petty, regardless of the consequences to their union. It will be interesting to see how they fare after the financial behemoths they are offending sit down and "advise" them in these matters.
There will be a lot of beating of chests during the Brexit process. If the UK side stays firm behind the reasons for Brexit, and doesn't fold to the EU by making concessions on issues like borders, the UK will find that they actually have the upper hand because they are a net importer of EU goods, and it is doubtful the EU would cut off that nose to spite their face.
Then again, the UK never was part of the Schengen Accord, so you have imposed stricter visa requirements for some time now, and maybe you'd prefer keep that up and even expand the process. If that's what people want, that's what they should get. But you have to expect the same in return.
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Post by twbm2 on Sept 11, 2016 15:38:31 GMT
You reap as you sow.
If you voted to leave on the basis of more controlled movement of people across borders, you probably should have remembered it works both ways. Suck it up and do the paperwork.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 11, 2016 17:29:58 GMT
You reap as you sow. If you voted to leave on the basis of more controlled movement of people across borders, you probably should have remembered it works both ways. Suck it up and do the paperwork. Thing is though, there's a bit of a difference between, say, a Brit going on a caravan holiday to Italy and inputting hundreds of pounds into the French and Italian economies, and some Romanian pikey coming to the UK to pick pockets in Oxford Street. Post Brexit, one would be likely to get a visa with minimal formalities while the other would be told to fuck off. |
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Post by twbm2 on Sept 11, 2016 17:42:19 GMT
You reap as you sow. If you voted to leave on the basis of more controlled movement of people across borders, you probably should have remembered it works both ways. Suck it up and do the paperwork. Thing is though, there's a bit of a difference between, say, a Brit going on a caravan holiday to Italy and inputting hundreds of pounds into the French and Italian economies, and some Romanian pikey coming to the UK to pick pockets in Oxford Street. Post Brexit, one would be likely to get a visa with minimal formalities while the other would be told to fuck off. And that would be fair enough, I suppose. I'd like to see the same sort of sanctions applied to British football 'fans'* and those who's sole purpose for visiting Europe seems to be to vomit beer. *Yes, I know, there's a lot of genuine fans. But there's a lot of honest Eastern Europeans too. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 11, 2016 17:47:43 GMT
Thing is though, there's a bit of a difference between, say, a Brit going on a caravan holiday to Italy and inputting hundreds of pounds into the French and Italian economies, and some Romanian pikey coming to the UK to pick pockets in Oxford Street. Post Brexit, one would be likely to get a visa with minimal formalities while the other would be told to fuck off. And that would be fair enough, I suppose. I'd like to see the same sort of sanctions applied to British football 'fans'* and those who's sole purpose for visiting Europe seems to be to vomit beer. *Yes, I know, there's a lot of genuine fans. But there's a lot of honest Eastern Europeans too. Well, yes, and it would be a lot easier for the eu to keep known British football hooligans out too, so it's a win/win situation all round. Most countries I have had to obtain a visa for required little more than filling in a short form at the border and paying some token fee. |
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Post by Phil on Sept 11, 2016 17:58:23 GMT
Thing is though, there's a bit of a difference between, say, a Brit going on a caravan holiday to Italy and inputting hundreds of pounds into the French and Italian economies, and some Romanian pikey coming to the UK to pick pockets in Oxford Street. Post Brexit, one would be likely to get a visa with minimal formalities while the other would be told to fuck off. This sums it up perfectly. |
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Post by Saltysplash on Sept 17, 2016 11:30:24 GMT
They need to bump up their coffers some how after they stop getting our subs once we leave.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 17, 2016 11:37:28 GMT
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