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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2020 19:25:39 GMT
Suggesting someone grounds a boat/home to make a point is ok in your mind? Sure is, and so is untying a barge when the river is in flood and then sinking it after it has been recovered. At least Tony attempts to lead by example. Personally I can't wait for the final episode (which will likely be televised). tsk... tsk... the fine details of this case remain shrouded in mystery, wild speculation is risible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:26:41 GMT
Cue Mrs tabby and the Alzheimer's thing.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 3, 2020 19:28:13 GMT
I said the tidal Trent because the Trent is tidal. As you rightly point out I do not know the river ... but I do recognise bullying when I see it. I'll leave you to your games ... power to the people ! Rog It’s the bullying that I don’t like from anyone, it’s behaviour I have always questioned and will continue to do so. When ever and where ever I encounter it. Any news yet on the outcome of your latest complaint to C&RT about the inland waterway equivalent of the Goodwin Sands they've allowed to build up in the "tidal" Trent upstream of Nottingham ? That's the conversation you were going to have with S. Garner more than 2 weeks ago, by the way, . . just in case all the dreadful bullying has left you over stressed and forgetful !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:31:47 GMT
Yes but it isn't sunk because the gunnels are above the waterline. It is full of water and grounded. Its a nice distinction.
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Post by kris on Aug 3, 2020 19:32:27 GMT
It’s the bullying that I don’t like from anyone, it’s behaviour I have always questioned and will continue to do so. When ever and where ever I encounter it. Any news yet on the outcome of your latest complaint to C&RT about the inland waterway equivalent of the Goodwin Sands they've allowed to build up in the "tidal" Trent upstream of Nottingham ? That's the conversation you were going to have with S. Garner more than 2 weeks ago, by the way, . . just in case all the dreadful bullying has left you over stressed and forgetful ! Tony I’m very sorry mr Garner has stopped replying to your constant emails, I’m sure it’s nothing personal. But any conversation between myself and cart is private until such time as I decide otherwise. So it’s none of your business.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:36:13 GMT
Yes but it isn't sunk because the gunnels are above the waterline. It is full of water and grounded. Its a nice distinction. I would definitely like it if it were my boat yes.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2020 19:39:06 GMT
If you run a bath and it ends up being full of water, would you describe it as 'sunk'?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:40:35 GMT
If you run a bath and it ends up being full of water, would you describe it as 'sunk'? No because a bath would not usually be floating. If it was a floating bath the only way to sink it would be if the water it was floating in was deeper than the moulded depth of the bath and enough water was added, either by a hole in it or water from above, to submerge all its freeboard below the existing waterline. That would be sunk. If the water was not deep enough to allow this then its just full of water and not sunk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:42:33 GMT
I bet you got a Eureka! moment reading that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:43:48 GMT
Sure is, and so is untying a barge when the river is in flood and then sinking it after it has been recovered. At least Tony attempts to lead by example. Personally I can't wait for the final episode (which will likely be televised). wild speculation is risible. Have a nice ris
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2020 20:01:33 GMT
I bet you got a Eureka! moment reading that I thought the edges of the barge in question were above the waterline, ergo it is not 'sunk' - merely 'resting'.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 4, 2020 0:24:41 GMT
. . . . . . . . . .................. . . . . I’m sorry son, but you should have been ousted from Canal and River Trust a long time ago. I don’t know how you have survived the cull, but credit where it’s due, you do seem to have a habit of surviving. (Page 1 - post #2 of this topic) - I get the distinct impression that C&RT actually headhunt people who are useless and inept enough to work down to the standard consistently achieved by vapouring pricks like D.Kemp. Kris and Dogless : Congratulations, . . I wouldn't be at all surprised if details of C&RT's terms of employment and personalized job offers are already on the way to you in recognition of your outstanding efforts on the Trust's behalf. To all the other TB members whose contributions were not quite down to Kris/ Dogless/Damian Kemp standards : Keep up the bad good work, the Trust has no future without mugs like you support such as yours !
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 4, 2020 4:41:21 GMT
Canals tend not to be tidal. Attempting to coerce someone to make a protest (pointless because it won't make ANY difference to C&RT management) using their home containing everything they possess, on a tidal river , is the worst kind of blustering, bullying buffoonery, particularly coming from a man that constantly berates others for acting in a 'stupid' manner on such rivers. But as always TonyDunkley you know best. Rog . . . . . . . . . . . . . I have my own battle with Hull City Council for failing to maintain their river crossings and closing a PRN because of a failed bridge.
Hull City Council certainly do deserve to be taken to task over last week's bridge fiasco, John. I don't know how much money they blew on that stupid new swing bridge across the Old Harbour from the end of Scale Lane, but it's apparent from the problems you were landed with at Ennerdale Bridge that at least some of the cost of that exercise in civil self-indulgence would have been better spent on maintaining their existing river crossings. The Hull is a free river with users of it enjoying a common law PRN since God was a lad, . . and the responsibility for ensuring that passage is unobstructed and available at all times sits very squarely on the shoulders of the owners/operators of all the river crossings within the city boundaries, or elsewhere, whichever the case may be. I would be inclined to initiate a claim against HCC with an itemised invoice covering every aspect of the delay and all expenses/costs attributable to it, . . including the cost of any repairs or replacements to Sabina incurred as a direct consequence of the bridge breakdown.
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Post by kris on Aug 4, 2020 7:25:10 GMT
I tell you what Tony, why don’t you stamp your feet and scream and scream until you cry?
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Post by JohnV on Aug 4, 2020 7:42:58 GMT
I tell you what Tony, why don’t you stamp your feet and scream and scream until you cry? You're out of order with that one Kris. Tony is correct. HCC do not observe their legal obligations in any more than in token fashion.
Fortunately (or unfortunately) depending on your view, Sabina did not suffer any damage apart from a broken aerial in backing up on the tide to a place where we could turn (To be more accurate a place that by dint of much ramming and riving was made wide enough for us to turn).
Being retired I had no work to be lost and I had not paid for a CaRT licence at that time so there was no pecuniary loss.
It only cost me time, aggravation and a few litres of diesel (the VHF aerial was already repaired because of earlier encounters with overgrown trees which are not their responsibility)
I think I am limited to a very strongly worded letter of complaint, pointing out their failure to observe their legal obligations ..... which I'm quite sure will be totally ignored ...... but at least it will be on record.
There is already one bridge totally out of commision and permanently up and there is another recent failure, temporarily fixed up while they try to make up their minds to scrap/repair/replace (only reason it's not causing traffic chaos is because of the lower level of traffic due to Covid)
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