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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 5:28:26 GMT
Over on the cool boats thread I put up a picture of the wonderful looking wooden 1947 Farcet Fen. Here is a link to a website it was advertised on in the last 12 months, on brokerage at Oundle Marina, fag paper under 15k www.classicboat.co.uk/farcet-fen/'All the owners have looked after the boat with professional help and it is in remarkable condition....' I noticed she had come off OM brokerage website, I must have missed her being sold - this is possibly not the case. We have been at Oundle for a short stay, mooching around the hardstanding I find her sat on a cradle, not sure if you can see it from the photo but there is a bit if hogging going on. No doubt not helped by the tired looking keelson What's going on here? You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what has happened to the old girl
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 5:47:43 GMT
When buying a secondhand boat surveyors are always recommend. I'm not a wooden boat expert by any means but a penknife and the MK1 eyeball is all that was needed for poor old Farcet Fen Tired transom God knows when she was last antifouled and caulked- it would have revealed some pretty imminent repairs needed That said, traditional snot and patches abound - ton and a bit of damp proof membrane, time honoured repair! There are numerous repairs like this throughout the hull. Then some truly nasty bits of work An underwater skin fitting with a piece of timber codged over the plank it is fitted to, how you are able to check it's condition or replace it following that repair (which it's self is now rotten!) Is anyone's guess!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 5:57:03 GMT
It'll start getting chilly soon. Handy to have something for the fire.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 6:00:31 GMT
I'm not sure how this was attached! This one however; fitted using the professional approach of mastic. Stem post needs attention
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 6:07:16 GMT
The horror show isn't limited to the underside - hull side top planking is getting tatty and has had some dubious work done to it. You have to feel for the current owners, at 73 years old she either needs £££££ on her or going on the bonfire 😩
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 6:15:05 GMT
'All the owners have looked after the boat with professional help and it is in remarkable condition....' To be fair, it IS in remarkable condition just not in the way that is implied.
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Post by patty on Aug 19, 2020 6:54:32 GMT
Oh dear, what a shame.. Photos are good though.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 19, 2020 9:17:11 GMT
The horror show isn't limited to the underside - hull side top planking is getting tatty and has had some dubious work done to it You have to feel for the current owners, at 73 years old she either needs £££££ on her or going on the bonfire 😩
Hmmmm !!! unless she is of great historic interest and they don't mind having only 10% original ....... bonfire
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 9:20:43 GMT
I learnt quite young about the follies of wooden boats. There was this lovely old Powles broads cruiser. A postcard job. Bloke spent a lot of time keeping it nice then decided to sell it. Asking £15k. Three years down the line he gave it away as it was going downhill too quickly and he had another boat to deal with.
It doesn't take long.
Put me off for life.
He still has the other (larger) boat and it is still in good condition 25 years on because he is "onto it" and "into it" and a competent wood worker.
Plus I think his later boat is teak which helps a bit.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 19, 2020 13:34:01 GMT
" Here is a link to a website it was advertised on in the last 12 months, on brokerage at Oundle Marina, fag paper under 15k www.classicboat.co.uk/farcet-fen/'All the owners have looked after the boat with professional help and it is in remarkable condition....' " 'Remarkable condition', eh? Remarks include: "Guy Fawkes Night!" and "What a heap of shit!"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 15:27:06 GMT
Yup, its knackered. Shame, like all wooden boats it has an immense amount of charm. I've always admired the overall design of cruisers from that era - the high foredeck always creates a fantastic living space. There must be a market for that style of boat made from modern materials.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 19, 2020 15:54:32 GMT
Thats going to need some serious fettling probaly too much for you and faffer to get on with.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 19, 2020 15:56:31 GMT
Thats going to need some serious fettling probaly too much for you and faffer to get on with. When you say 'fettling', do you mean 'filling it with ammonium nitrate and sending it down the Thames to the Houses of Parliament'? Two birds with one stone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 16:41:46 GMT
Yup, its knackered. Shame, like all wooden boats it has an immense amount of charm. I've always admired the overall design of cruisers from that era - the high foredeck always creates a fantastic living space. There must be a market for that style of boat made from modern materials. The older Colvic cruisers were similar. Like my old yot which has recently been done up. Grp hull but loads of people assume it's wood because of the traditional styling. More modern versions include the English Harbour motor launches and Davinci which is a Dutch maker. They don't have the same step as the older boats but similar general idea. Davinci 29er English Harbour Not particularly similar but taking ideas from the same general plan.. The other ones were the Freemans obviously. I don't think there are any current manufacturers who do the proper stepped deck design at the moment but could be wrong. The preferred option seems to be a uniform sheer line rather than the slightly abrupt but very pleasing if you know what it is for step. Of course there is the occasional slightly crazy boat which gets made which takes the high foredeck / accomodation option to the extremes and ends up with a front cabin with 6ft3 headroom and 3 bunks in it. But these are unusual. Here's one
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