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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 27, 2016 15:40:04 GMT
Well Barry (crash helmet) is suggesting that everyone banned and in here are lying. What a dido. I put him on my 'wankers' list 2 years ago. Sorry, Barry!
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Post by PaulG2 on Oct 27, 2016 15:47:47 GMT
Hello, mayalld - welcome to Thunderboat. Though it is not really for me to say, as I'm just a member. Nobody here has ever seriously been harrassed. There are some silly comments here and there, but you can just sweep past them. The people on Canalworld who refer this site as "the dark side" are those who think the Earth is flat. I can't think of anybody on here who I consider to be unpleasant. I can't remember anyone ever having been harassed here, in any sense of the word. There have been a few confrontations at times, but people seem to have learned that there is good and bad in all of us, and now any confrontational talk is mostly constrained to the subject at hand and isn't carried on throughout the forum. Not only that, but we adapt. for example, Kris doesn't seem to really mind being called a "shit stirrer" now and then, as long as you spell his name correctly and don't mention his loo in the same breath, and tomsk's "twats", which were originally quite annoying, are now a badge of honor. Although I dare say it is hardly a miracle that intelligent, well-intentioned people can sit at their key boards and interact with each other without some benighted school marm watching their every keystroke.
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Post by kris on Oct 27, 2016 15:51:32 GMT
Hello, mayalld - welcome to Thunderboat. Though it is not really for me to say, as I'm just a member. Nobody here has ever seriously been harrassed. There are some silly comments here and there, but you can just sweep past them. The people on Canalworld who refer this site as "the dark side" are those who think the Earth is flat. I can't think of anybody on here who I consider to be unpleasant. I can't remember anyone ever having been harassed here, in any sense of the word. There have been a few confrontations at times, but people seem to have learned that there is good and bad in all of us, and now any confrontational talk is mostly constrained to the subject at hand and isn't carried on throughout the forum. Not only that, but we adapt. for example, Kris doesn't seem to really mind being called a "shit stirrer" now and then, as long as you spell his name correctly and don't mention his loo in the same breath, and tomsk's "twats", which were originally quite annoying, are now a badge of honor. Although I dare say it is hardly a miracle that intelligent, well-intentioned people can sit at their key boards and interact with each other without some benighted school marm watching their every keystroke. yes you even seem to have reigned in your pompous, overbearing and judgemental posts as well Paul.
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Post by PaulG2 on Oct 27, 2016 15:55:24 GMT
How do you work that one out ? He's a member of this Forum and at liberty to defend himself and express an opinion in precisely the same way as any other member. If he is in fact constrained, to any greater degree than any other invertebrate, then it can only be by a marked inability to recognize the values of truthfulness and realism. Coming on here would be like going into the Lions Den......See what I did there! Coming on here would be like going into the Lions Den......See what I did there! No. 'Denial' is an anagram of Daniel, not 'Lions Den'. And where's the apostrophe? Get thee to a church, man! It's a biblical reference - Daniel in the lion's den and all that rot. With proper credit to Sister Mary Theobald of St. Paul of the Cross school...
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Post by canaldweller on Oct 27, 2016 15:56:40 GMT
It is amazing that Barry can dismiss all those on TB as liars. I've always struggled to like him, I guess I don't have to bother any more.
To be fair, he makes a fair point.
Just as when people slag of CRT, CRT can't actually defend themselves, people can come here and slag Dan off, and he is constrained.
That isn't to say that everybody who has come over is telling lies, but it is probably fair to say that in some cases the story has been polished to suit the teller.
And at the risk of getting off to a bad start here, that kind of "playing the man" is just what posters in an unmoderated forum should be trying to self-police.
"And at the risk of getting off to a bad start here, that kind of "playing the man" is just what posters in an unmoderated forum should be trying to self-police." I agree with you on this one. All this petty name calling is not not good in my opinion. On the other hand is must be difficult not to "play the man" when giving a critique of the decisions of " the man".
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Post by PaulG2 on Oct 27, 2016 15:58:07 GMT
I can't remember anyone ever having been harassed here, in any sense of the word. There have been a few confrontations at times, but people seem to have learned that there is good and bad in all of us, and now any confrontational talk is mostly constrained to the subject at hand and isn't carried on throughout the forum. Not only that, but we adapt. for example, Kris doesn't seem to really mind being called a "shit stirrer" now and then, as long as you spell his name correctly and don't mention his loo in the same breath, and tomsk's "twats", which were originally quite annoying, are now a badge of honor. Although I dare say it is hardly a miracle that intelligent, well-intentioned people can sit at their key boards and interact with each other without some benighted school marm watching their every keystroke. yes you even seem to have reigned in your pompous, overbearing and judgemental posts as well Paul. I'm trying! Old habits are hard to break.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 27, 2016 15:58:55 GMT
Dan is between a rock and a hard place if he posts on here - though mainly of his own making. He can hardly come on here and robustly defend his views and actions without contravening his own site rules. So that sort of posting behaviour is ok or it isn't, if it is ok then he will be unable to justify banning certain people. However, Dan is welcome here as is anyone else. If he has interesting things to tell us about his boat(s), canals, waterways and anything else, then why not? Of course, here he would be as a member and not as the boss. It's OK to talk Politics and Religion here too, ghost stories and what you had for tea last night. Why does Dan run the Canalworld site? If he is genuinely interested in the canals and inland waterways, he could easily be on here too. I think the people on here are quite forgiving and would, after teasing him for a couple of days, just absorb him into the general run of things. I'm like that, willing to give a second chance.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 27, 2016 16:03:07 GMT
"Get thee to a church, man!"
I only go to ring the bells.
Talking of bells, when I'm driving my bus and a bus stop approaches, I think of any passengers who might want it: "Ring the bell, Or go to Hell!" is my motto.
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Post by tex on Oct 27, 2016 16:21:00 GMT
Coming on here would be like going into the Lions Den......See what I did there! No. 'Denial' is an anagram of Daniel, not 'Lions Den'. And where's the apostrophe? Sincere apologies for the omission. Been hanging out with those dammed Meskin's to long I guess.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 27, 2016 16:27:57 GMT
I had to look 'Meskin' up. We don't have any round here but there is a nice chap from Tibet who works in the Finnish Red Cross charity shops here in Himanka, in Kannus and in Kokkola. I missed the 'Daniel in the Lion's Den' - but I have been round the 'Bible Belt' of the Appalachians and once went to one of those 'Happy-Clappy' Gospel church services in Harlem, New York. One of my school friends ended up as a Professor working at the University of South-West Texas (cancer research), I sometimes wonder what he makes of living in Texas. Just curious - you're British? And have a boat in England? Or sometimes rent canal boats in England?
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Post by tex on Oct 27, 2016 17:10:50 GMT
I had to look 'Meskin' up. We don't have any round here but there is a nice chap from Tibet who works in the Finnish Red Cross charity shops here in Himanka, in Kannus and in Kokkola. I missed the 'Daniel in the Lion's Den' - but I have been round the 'Bible Belt' of the Appalachians and once went to one of those 'Happy-Clappy' Gospel church services in Harlem, New York. One of my school friends ended up as a Professor working at the University of South-West Texas (cancer research), I sometimes wonder what he makes of living in Texas. Just curious - you're British? And have a boat in England? Or sometimes rent canal boats in England? Long story. Grew up with boats,mostly on the Gt Ouse and the Thames. My son still lived in St. Ives up until last week and my plan was to get another boat based in the area ready for my retirement next year. Planned to spend 5-6 months there and Winter on the Texas Gulf Coast. However the dozy bugger has upped sticks and moved to France, a few miles outside Bordeaux. So a rethink is in order....Maybe a Sailboat on the Garonne! I spent a few weeks last year on the Gt Ouse, renting from Bridge Boats and had a blast. South West Texas changed it's name to Texas State a few years ago. It's in San Marcos, a nice little town about 20 miles from Austin. A real Party School from all accounts. Both Austin and San Marcos are in the Texas Hill Country, by far the prettiest part of the State. All Hills and Lakes, not the flat, dry wasteland of West Texas as seen on the Cowboy Movies. In fact I'm going sailing for a few days next week on Lake Travis, which is a man made lake with good breezes caused by the surrounding hills........and the weather is still in the 80's.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 27, 2016 17:43:47 GMT
How do you work that one out ? He's a member of this Forum and at liberty to defend himself and express an opinion in precisely the same way as any other member. If he is in fact constrained, to any greater degree than any other invertebrate, then it can only be by a marked inability to recognize the values of truthfulness and realism.
Like it or not, he is constrained by what it is right and proper to do.
Its the self-moderation that I was talking of.
I wouldn't deny that he lacks a realistic view of the current situation, but I have to accept that he cannot with integrity make public information that people had a reasonable expectation would remain private.
I can believe that self-abuse would be high on his priorities list, but to credit him with 'self-moderation' and good intentions after what he's been responsible for over the last few days is just utterly ridiculous, . . . and you know it. There is absolutely NOTHING preventing him from posting on here in defence of his recent actions, and the same comments could be equally applicable with regard to C&RT. It is well known that 'debbipiggy' was reporting back on posters and postings on CWDF, and there are indications that the same is now happening with 'Thunderboat'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 17:48:53 GMT
Like it or not, he is constrained by what it is right and proper to do.
Its the self-moderation that I was talking of.
I wouldn't deny that he lacks a realistic view of the current situation, but I have to accept that he cannot with integrity make public information that people had a reasonable expectation would remain private.
I can believe that self-abuse would be high on his priorities list, but to credit him with 'self-moderation' and good intentions after what he's been responsible for over the last few days is just utterly ridiculous, . . . and you know it. There is absolutely NOTHING preventing him from posting on here in defence of his recent actions, and the same comments could be equally applicable with regard to C&RT. It is well known that 'debbipiggy' was reporting back on posters and postings on CWDF, and there are indications that the same is now happening with 'Thunderboat'. It seems to be obvious that CRT would be monitoring any vaguely active internet sites to get a gist of the 'chatter' a bit like BBC monitoring does with furrin radio stations. Not sure if this should be specially interesting to anyone?
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 27, 2016 18:24:41 GMT
You could always buy a narrowboat/canal boat and use it for continuous crusing, and park it up for the other 6 months. If the boat was in good order to start with, then you wouldn't have the worries of engine overhaul and hull surveys - and then you could just sell it on when you get fed up with it. I don't think anything bad happens to the inside of narrowboats whilst one is away, at least ours always smells OK when we get back to it; spiders have always been active though, but half an hour with the vacuum cleaner gives them a nice new home - in the bag in a bin!! And now you've discovered Thunderboat you'll have friends all over the place!
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 27, 2016 18:32:02 GMT
there are indications that the same is now happening with 'Thunderboat'. I'd say 100% proof. Surely the greater part of the 'lurkers and visitors' are from CWDF. The sinister side is that spies like 'debbipiggy' who work for authorities are also gathering information, so I would suggest anyone posting anything here bear this in mind. Worse - perhaps my kids are reading the stuff I came out with, heh!
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