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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 12:03:12 GMT
The video of the women taking the blacking off with that disc got me thinking, we are due to black next year, is it worth stripping back and getting a few coats on, does it benefit in anyway, for example you can get rid of all the old coats and flaky bits and get a nice smooth finish, we want to take the blacking this time up the gunwale so they would also be stripped back..
I only use bog standard blacking so not fussed about the expensive two coat stuff.
Thoughts?
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Post by Jim on Dec 10, 2020 12:59:41 GMT
The video of the women taking the blacking off with that disc got me thinking, we are due to black next year, is it worth stripping back and getting a few coats on, does it benefit in anyway, for example you can get rid of all the old coats and flaky bits and get a nice smooth finish, we want to take the blacking this time up the gunwale so they would also be stripped back.. I only use bog standard blacking so not fussed about the expensive two coat stuff. Thoughts? Some of us have used keelblack for a few years now. I stripped back the bitumen the first time, following the KB advice then applied fertan followed by 2 or 3 coats of keelblack. By the time you've got back to where you started it's dry, so round you go again. Last time I just used a high power jet wash, then fertan on any bare bits, then KB. I'll be doing the same next May, got to get a Hull survey again too, 5 yrs is up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 14:25:12 GMT
My reason is just to tidy it up, when blacked last time it still looked a bit crap in places ,I guess due to the old blacking being chipped.
We plan to hire the tunnel at springwood haven for a week to do some painting so could strip back, paint what we need then hand over to them to black, or maybe black ourselves, save a few quid.
I just fear it might be one of those jobs I wish I hadn't started ten minutes in it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 14:35:09 GMT
I don't do the whole "taking boat out of water" thing but if I did I would be sure to use quality blacking.
Blacking lives matter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 15:48:03 GMT
Useful info Andrew.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 17:15:45 GMT
I don't do the whole "taking boat out of water" thing but if I did I would be sure to use quality blacking. Blacking lives matter. You are lazy that's why. I'm sure I remember someone saying they had used zinc-rich primer then 2-part paint to excellent effect.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 10, 2020 17:46:02 GMT
The video of the women taking the blacking off with that disc got me thinking, we are due to black next year, is it worth stripping back and getting a few coats on, does it benefit in anyway, for example you can get rid of all the old coats and flaky bits and get a nice smooth finish, we want to take the blacking this time up the gunwale so they would also be stripped back.. I only use bog standard blacking so not fussed about the expensive two coat stuff. Thoughts? Some of us have used keelblack for a few years now. I used it once, said how great it was, and then it all peeled off. You just don't listen to good advice. You should listen to the fox. Before we know it you'll be taking experimental 'vaccines' and catching the illness they're supposed to prevent!
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Post by Jim on Dec 10, 2020 20:46:29 GMT
Some of us have used keelblack for a few years now. But we have never had the results of what happened after 2 or 3 years in the water with 'Keelblack', have we? We used SML Ballastic Black last year (June 2019) and were pleased with the results when it was out of water and the bitumen dry. We never got to see it afterwards, and the boat was unnecessarily blacked again this June 2020 because we needed to get some welding done and dry dock + blacking was cheaper than just dry dock. I'm not sure if I quite liked the attitude of the dry dock owner berating me for phoning him on a Sunday to check that all was OK for the boat going in on the Monday. And forgetting that we had already paid him a deposit (and adding that to our bill). There could be a storm coming, and I may have to heat up some more mooring pins. Twaddle and tripe! 🙄 On my 4th year with keelblack. Happy.
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Post by greenman on Dec 11, 2020 16:28:53 GMT
But we have never had the results of what happened after 2 or 3 years in the water with 'Keelblack', have we? We used SML Ballastic Black last year (June 2019) and were pleased with the results when it was out of water and the bitumen dry. We never got to see it afterwards, and the boat was unnecessarily blacked again this June 2020 because we needed to get some welding done and dry dock + blacking was cheaper than just dry dock. I'm not sure if I quite liked the attitude of the dry dock owner berating me for phoning him on a Sunday to check that all was OK for the boat going in on the Monday. And forgetting that we had already paid him a deposit (and adding that to our bill). There could be a storm coming, and I may have to heat up some more mooring pins. Twaddle and tripe! 🙄 On my 4th year with keelblack. Happy. Did you use fertan on any rust before putting Keelblack on.
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Post by Jim on Dec 12, 2020 6:42:00 GMT
Twaddle and tripe! 🙄 On my 4th year with keelblack. Happy. Did you use fertan on any rust before putting Keelblack on. Yes. It smells great, strong tea. It being tannic acid.
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Post by greenman on Dec 12, 2020 7:40:33 GMT
Cheers Jim. Also meant to ask did it bond well to old blacking still on the hull.
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Post by Jim on Dec 12, 2020 17:03:36 GMT
Cheers Jim. Also meant to ask did it bond well to old blacking still on the hull. No, because I'd removed it all with the blaster. But it does say on the tin that it should and the second time stuck fine on the first lot, 2 years later.
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