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Post by thebfg on Aug 2, 2021 9:20:02 GMT
I take it they aren't your words. Too scared to say who said it?
So how many times have you been castigated for not having a jab?
How much shit have you said about those that have?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 10:00:37 GMT
You don't get it do you ... we're not interested ... engine service this morning Rog Yet you came of your own accord to this thread. How do you know everybody isn't interested? You, like JohnV, do not speak for everybody. Call me telepathic ... or read what EVERYONE writes which will give you a pointer. Time was you used to post about your adventures in Finland, with great photos to accompany them ... I came here of my "own accord" in the hope you may drop this barrage and get back to that ... but your choice (service done by the way ) Rog
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Post by thebfg on Aug 2, 2021 12:14:05 GMT
What good would a source be for you? You simply mock everything I write, for the sake of mocking. The source is irrelevant. I think you simply cannot 'read between the lines'. Was it written by a loony in prison or a professional. Do they have an agenda, is what they write truthful? Your using it to form an opinion of what is happening in a country your not in. Don't you care of its truthful or not? I'm not mocking you, I'm questioning what you are writing, do you actually read it?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 2, 2021 12:18:04 GMT
If you want anyone to take stuff seriously and actually discuss your views random quotes aren't the way forward.
What about this quote "Covid jabs will always be free"
See told you
I do like the irony that you ask for my sources yet won't provide your own.
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Post by Jim on Aug 2, 2021 12:58:14 GMT
The basic assumption seems to be that people dying is a negative outcome. Bearing in mind that overpopulation is one of the most obvious elephants in the room surely people dying is a positive outcome. It seems likely that respiratory diseases would tend to take out the weaker specimens who would probably otherwise go on to cause general problems and expense in the future. If nature was allowed to work properly without the interference of humans things would work out a whole lot better. Yes there would be individual grief. This will always happen. Humans do themselves no favours by trying to bypass nature. It won't work. Of course there is the short term money story going on as well but that's just a sideline. After you...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 13:00:59 GMT
I thought we were supposed to be discussing beans.
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Post by Jim on Aug 2, 2021 13:24:50 GMT
What good would a source be for you? You simply mock everything I write, for the sake of mocking. The source is irrelevant. I think you simply cannot 'read between the lines'. We don't mock everything you "write" for the sake of it. It gets mocked for a few reasons, you copied it from some unidentified internet loon, it's just rubbish, it's an exaggeration of a small grain of truth twisted out of all proportion, it's a prediction of something that is going to happen and we welcome it. Not everyone mocks, some question the veracity and source, but that has been tried, defeated by rational arguement yet more twaddle appears. Mocking is the only option after that. I am happy with being jabbed, happy to wear masks to safeguard others, happy to leave details for track and trace, I'd like to be contacted if I might have caught covid. No one is forcing me. I'm not part of any conspiracy, the conspiracies are created by antivaxxers, probably fed by the Russians as part of the social disruption of the west. They'd probably pick someone close to their borders to channel the fake news and conspiracy theories through.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 13:29:46 GMT
The internet is a funny situation for humans to be in.
It's actually hilarious in a lot of ways but also quite concerning due to the insect invasion.
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Post by patty on Aug 3, 2021 6:22:37 GMT
To continually plagiarise other peoples words without acknowledgement of source is wrong If the sources are reputable scientific research papers with validation then more weight is given to the views expressed If the sources are Daily Fail plus other dubious individuals who climb on a platform in order to spout forth then its just ridiculous
Without identifying where 'facts(??)' are gathered from, I do not think anyone on here can make an informed decision as to whether there is a grain of truth in a warehouse of wheat chaff.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 3, 2021 6:31:04 GMT
As yet there is no evidence to suggest the Pfizer has a side effect that involves blood clotting, hence the fact nobody is shouting about it. The az however has the blood clotting registered as a side effect, and has also acquired the warning of not injecting under thirties with it. This is from facts the scientists are putting out.
I would like to quote a bit from todays Times
"An old friend sends me a random article from some contrarian site about how all vaccines are a con. I reply with a rebuttal from a reputable source. Then I wonder at how easily smart people, after too much time alone, can slip beyond Reason. < ..... > I used to tolerate the anti-MMR parents, the alternative therapy folk, the "MSM is fake news" brigade as maddening but essentially benign. But after this year, I can't abide these selfish, smug, I know better charlatans. Just get the goddamn jab" (Janice Turner)
as the Fox loves to quote, I think I shall re-quote somethimg I posted some 4 months ago (includes it's source)
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 3, 2021 7:06:33 GMT
I do like the irony that you ask for my sources yet won't provide your own. Talking of irony: "Madness. We've spent the last 300 years eradicating discrimination of all kinds, and now the UK government and police force have swept all that away in their rabidly aggressive abuse towards non-vaxxed and protesters. Disgraceful. I hope they appreciate that they are now the kind of people their ancestors fought 2 world wars to avoid! The irony!" 'Discrimination' has only ever existed when carefully selected groups are purported to interfere with the rights of other carefully selected groups. While it's true that the list of the latter has been extended in recent years, often to great fanfare, this should not confuse the overall message. Anti discrimination has nothing to do with everyone getting on and having a nice life. Rather, it maliciously selects some groups of people and promotes their rights over other groups. Makes the favoured groups more worthy, if you like. Doubt this? consider how many or to be precise, how few, black people have been charged with racially aggravated crimes. Antivvaxers will certainly not be considered to be a favoured, more worthy group. Rather, they are more likely to be dismissed as a bunch of granny killers. Being a non favoured group, the concept of discrimination cannot be applied to any actions directed towards them.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 7:10:31 GMT
Is being vaxxed or not being vaxxed a protected characteristic. If not then no discrimination can occur.
I fear this needs a comment for clarity.
This is not my personal opinion but a fact of law.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 7:12:07 GMT
I do like the irony that you ask for my sources yet won't provide your own. Â Talking of irony: Â "Madness. We've spent the last 300 years eradicating discrimination of all kinds, and now the UK government and police force have swept all that away in their rabidly aggressive abuse towards non-vaxxed and protesters. Disgraceful. I hope they appreciate that they are now the kind of people their ancestors fought 2 world wars to avoid! The irony!" Can you show us any examples of the police being rabidly aggressive towards non vacced people. What have you witnessed?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 7:12:57 GMT
as the Fox loves to quote, I think I shall re-quote somethimg I posted some 4 months ago (includes it's source)  Now you have resorted to suggesting I am against all vaccines, John? Tarring me with a quote like that? This is an example how psychological abuse works, disreputing someone by association with something else. You know very well that I have said I am not against vaccination per se. You are being disingenious here, and you know it. No Brownie points for you this time. You do lots of the same.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 3, 2021 7:15:32 GMT
Is being vaxxed or not being vaxxed a protected characteristic. Of not then no discrimination can occur. My point, precisely.
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