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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 3, 2021 7:37:17 GMT
'Unvaccinated' (for 'Covid') not being allowed into pubs 6 restaurants, supermarkets, being denied hospital treatment, being refused employment, etc. is discrimination in my eyes. At least thebfg has, at long last, learned how to spell 'protected characteristic' - whatever that means. Can the desire not to be injected with a 'drug' with no known long term effects be described as a 'protected characteristic'? We really are in 1984, aren't we? You either believe everything the State tells you (usually in fear of punishment if you don't), or you like to join the dots for yourself and are accused of 'Wrongthink'. I believe that people should have the freedom to think for themselves. Just think of all the money that has been wasted over this - wouldn't it have been better to have pumped that all into the NHS, at the same time making sure it was properly supervised? Now we have the pharmaceutical companies flogging their 'vaccines' which don't even work, for vast profits, and they have you on their hook for ever and ever. There will be endless 'Covid variants' being announced by Big Brother to keep you in fear and servility. The irony being that the idea behind 'equality' and 'discrimination' laws was to create a more cohesive society but the reality being that nothing has changed, other than millions of people being socially muzzled. Oh, and the muzzled themselves feeling discriminated against. The favoured groups still feel discriminated against, because loud voices tell them that they are. So everyone feels discriminated against. I guess that's progress.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:05:35 GMT
The latest equality act was supposed to help protect children but doesn't, I don't know the answer but I suspect it will all change again at some point.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 3, 2021 8:15:15 GMT
The latest equality act was supposed to help protect children but doesn't, I don't know the answer but I suspect it will all change again at some point. The thing is, how could an equal society be achieved by 'protecting' only certain characteristics? Surely the route to a harmonious society is to protect all characteristics equally?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:28:32 GMT
The latest equality act was supposed to help protect children but doesn't, I don't know the answer but I suspect it will all change again at some point. The thing is, how could an equal society be achieved by 'protecting' only certain characteristics? Surely the route to a harmonious society is to protect all characteristics equally?  Your probably not far off but I don't know the answer. I suspect the line does need moving but if anyone could claim discrimination over anything. I fear it will be far worse. I could claim discrimination because I not allowed to sit in the house of Lords, for example
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 8:33:02 GMT
Also it would be a bit dodgy if Nasty Criminals were given protected status.
Illegal to discriminate against Nasty Criminals.
This could go wrong quite quickly !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 8:33:41 GMT
Jabbatoir. Ok so that did make me giggle.
I don't read any other nonsense online so have never seen it before.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:37:13 GMT
Well this isn't convincing me to rush to the Jabbatoir. From Reuters: "Amongst people infected by the Delta variant of the coronavirus, fully vaccinated people with "breakthrough" infections may be just as likely as unvaccinated people to spread the virus to others, new research suggests. Goes on to say they've found similar viral loads in vaxxed and unvaxxed. The Lambda variant of the coronavirus, first identified in Peru and now spreading in South America, is highly infectious and more resistant to vaccines than the original version of the virus the emerged from Wuhan, China. Among fully vaccinated people who never had COVID-19, getting a third dose of an mRNA vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna would likely increase levels of antibodies, but not antibodies that are better able to neutralize new virus variants." If anybody tells you they are 'vaccinated' or 'fully vaccinated' with a 'Covid vaccine' I suggest you keep well away from them, as they too can be spreaders of The Virus or its many mutants. Hoe much more 'highly infectious' can a virus be from the 'highly infectious Kent variant' which was 70% more infectious than the 'original Wuhan version', and then the Indian one (later termed Delta so as not to offend Indians) which was more infectious than the Kent mutant? Ever had the feeling you'be been had? Bread and circuses. has anyone asked you to get jabbed? Had, I believe the above stuff has been repeatedly mentioned by quite a few folk here. We know anyone can spread it regardless of vaccination status. So how have we been had? In fact, don't bother I really don't care.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:40:59 GMT
Seems a lot of people have told you why they were jabbed. Myself to reduce the effect of the virus, if I catch it.
I can't believe your still peddling this rubbish. We know a fully vaccinated person can catch and spread it, why you can't accept that I don't know.
If I stay alive or stay out of ICU then the jab will have done its job.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:47:57 GMT
Oh, so it's not just the uk government that is a fascist tyrony.
Your own government is too. How did you fail to mention that?
If staying alive means I've been had then well. What can I say?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2021 8:48:41 GMT
I can't believe people are taking these experimental so-called 'vaccines'... they are imbeciles! People think the virus can't get you if you are sitting down in a pub, but it can when you stand up! Imbeciles indeed! Not to mention people who keep testing themselves to see if they are ill when they feel fine!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 3, 2021 8:49:58 GMT
The thing is, how could an equal society be achieved by 'protecting' only certain characteristics? Surely the route to a harmonious society is to protect all characteristics equally? Your probably not far off but I don't know the answer. I suspect the line does need moving but if anyone could claim discrimination over anything. I fear it will be far worse. I could claim discrimination because I not allowed to sit in the house of Lords, for example Better for everyone to stop obsessing about discrimination, have the same laws for everyone, stop digging up and trying to re write the past and accept that in a democracy, the will of the majority holds sway, not the will of the minority.
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Post by Jim on Aug 3, 2021 8:51:42 GMT
Seems a lot of people have told you why they were jabbed. Myself to reduce the effect of the virus, if I catch it. I can't believe your still peddling this rubbish. We know a fully vaccinated person can catch and spread it, why you can't accept that I don't know. If I stay alive or stay out of ICU then the jab will have done its job.   Look, I have this stone in my pocket. What's it for? It keeps the tigers away. Does it work? Do you see any tigers?  Best keep your face mask on, the Peru variant is headed this way. In fact, two masks are better than one, so perhaps wear two?  I think you are the one peddling fear and 'rubbish' - get a vaccine which doesn't actually work but get it anyway because that nice Mr Zahawi said to. My stone doesn't seem to be working. It's to protect me from internet twaddle. Would it help if I threw it at a fox?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2021 8:55:51 GMT
Hello, I am not from your planet. I am from a simple, logic based race from another time. I am curious as to how the concepts of "Fully vaccinated" and "Booster shots" can coexist in your society. As one of your great philosophers said, "That would be illogical, Captain" Professor Ferguson says "Cross my palm with silver, Deary, and I will show you my little virus!"
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:57:08 GMT
Seems a lot of people have told you why they were jabbed. Myself to reduce the effect of the virus, if I catch it. I can't believe your still peddling this rubbish. We know a fully vaccinated person can catch and spread it, why you can't accept that I don't know. If I stay alive or stay out of ICU then the jab will have done its job.   Look, I have this stone in my pocket. What's it for? It keeps the tigers away. Does it work? Do you see any tigers?  Best keep your face mask on, the Peru variant is headed this way. In fact, two masks are better than one, so perhaps wear two?  I think you are the one peddling fear and 'rubbish' - get a vaccine which doesn't actually work but get it anyway because that nice Mr Zahawi said to. See you accuse me off peddling fear and rubbish. When have I told you to do anything? When I have told anyone to do anything. What fear have I peddled to you? What part off I don't wear a mask do you jot understand? I've made a personal choice not once have I suggested anyone else do so. Is it really that difficult for you to take in. So keep the cheap hits coming. Do you want to discuss this or do you just want to personally accuse and attack anyone who disagrees?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 3, 2021 8:58:45 GMT
Oh, so it's not just the uk government that is a fascist tyrony. Your own government is too. How did you fail to mention that? If staying alive means I've been had then well. What can I say?  I very much doubt you would have died of 'Covid' - you're not 82 years old, are you? Or have 'underlying illnesses' such as being morbidly overweight.  I think you have been scared by the government's propaganda campaign, and that's about it. Also, with the jab being free, it didn't cost you anything to gain your 'moral superiority' in this matter.  The government over here is pretty much the same, there is no real Democracy, they are corrupt as bollocks. Difference here, so far, is that they have not been phoning people up persuading them to make bookings for jabs. Not yet.  Time will tell, but it looks as if my 'conspiracy theories' have tuned out to be correct so far. The 'Vaccine Passport' (or register) is here to stay. Enjoy your face masks - forever and ever - as we see right now, the majority of the British public are too scared to remove them, 99% compliance in many shops.  Still, the Peru variant is coming, and then there's another 'wave' coming from China..... can't be too careful, eh? Ross we are done. Your an offensive prick. Enjoy Finland. So you think I should listen to you or listen to a medically trained doctor who has my medical history. Let's not forget how many times I've said that. Just so you know. This. I very much doubt you would have died of 'Covid' - you're not 82 years old, are you? Or have 'underlying illnesses' such as being morbidly overweight. Good bye.
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