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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 29, 2021 13:40:34 GMT
It was you who introduced the crowdjustice funding appeal by this " coalition of boat dwellers, the National Bargee Travellers Association and other support organisations" onto Thunderboat originally, . . on 2 April this year, . . and you provided a link straight to the crowdjustice funding page. I reckon that, at the very least, you owe those who took what you said in good faith, and contributed to the appeal, an explanation of why their money was spent so ineffectually, . . precisely who spent it so ineffectually, . . and why, whoever they are, they're still holding their hands out for yet more cash, . . six weeks after stating that the appeal had been "paused". Dunkley, you’re a complete fuckin idiot who has done nothing other than lose two boats, with a third being in the pipeline. For this reason, any opinion you have is nothing more than rambling from an idiot. Idiot. Your ill-informed claptrap is of no interest to anyone other than those stupid and naive enough to lend any credibility to anything that anyone with a track record such as yours might say, . . so instead of trying to bluster your way out of the corner you've put yourself into -- address the issue at hand. It was YOU who introduced the crowdjustice funding appeal by this " coalition of boat dwellers, the National Bargee Travellers Association and other support organisations" onto Thunderboat originally, . . on 2 April this year, . . and YOU who provided the link straight to the crowdjustice funding page. At the very least, . . YOU owe those who took what you said in good faith, and contributed to the appeal, an explanation of why their money was spent so ineffectually, . . precisely who spent it so ineffectually, . . and why, whoever they are, they're still holding their hands out for yet more cash, . . six weeks after stating that the appeal had been "paused".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 14:09:56 GMT
Dunkley, you’re a complete fuckin idiot who has done nothing other than lose two boats, with a third being in the pipeline. For this reason, any opinion you have is nothing more than rambling from an idiot. Idiot. Your ill-informed claptrap is of no interest to anyone other than those stupid and naive enough to lend any credibility to anything that anyone with a track record such as yours might say, . . so instead of trying to bluster your way out of the corner you've put yourself into -- address the issue at hand. It was YOU who introduced the crowdjustice funding appeal by this " coalition of boat dwellers, the National Bargee Travellers Association and other support organisations" onto Thunderboat originally, . . on 2 April this year, . . and YOU who provided the link straight to the crowdjustice funding page. At the very least, . . YOU owe those who took what you said in good faith, and contributed to the appeal, an explanation of why their money was spent so ineffectually, . . precisely who spent it so ineffectually, . . and why, whoever they are, they're still holding their hands out for yet more cash, . . six weeks after stating that the appeal had been "paused". Idiot.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 29, 2021 15:56:19 GMT
Somebody had a go at taking on CRT and it didn't get the response they required? You should join them Tony, be right up your street. He’s fallen out with the people involved. Other than the NBTA, who for obvious reasons are well known to many thousands of pleasure boaters, . . I don't know who ' the people involved' are, . . but in stating - quote - "He’s fallen out with the people involved." - you've made it very apparent that YOU DO KNOW who they are ! So, in light of this revelation, . . are you now prepared to identify these mysterious people who YOU say I have "fallen out with", and who hide behind a description of themselves as a " coalition of boat dwellers, the National Bargee Travellers Association and other support organisations" ? Is the fact that they're still inviting donations some 6 weeks after saying that the appeal had been "paused" associated in some way with their continuing anonymity, . . and YOUR previously undisclosed but now obvious connections with them ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 16:33:59 GMT
You need a cape Tony, all the good you do in the boating world taking on the corrupt and greedy.
SuperDunks, Dunkerman, Dunkerdogood
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 29, 2021 18:16:16 GMT
The appeal for more cash was renewed again this morning for another 30 days -- although, oddly, it did still carry the following opening sentences from the most recent 'Update' (No.9 - 19 Sept, 2021) : - "We are extremely grateful to all the supporters who have made donations to this appeal. There has not been very much to report since the last update at the end of June. The appeal has been paused and may be wound up soon. This will not prevent us opening another appeal to continue the case if we believe this is necessary and appropriate. We have used the remainder of the funds to seek further advice from a senior Barrister regarding Canal & River Trust’s (CRT) response to our second Pre-Action Protocol letter."
The appeal pages can be found in full at :- < www.crowdjustice.com/case/protect-boats-homes/ > ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ See also this post from page 1 of this thread :- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/287073/thread > The article referred to was by Nigel Moore explaining the correct grounds, the Trust's long standing misuse of S.43 of the Transport Act of 1962, upon which to found an application for Judicial Review regarding C&RT's intended changes to the Licence T&C's, and is here :- kanda.boatingcommunity.org.uk/section-43-of-the-1962-waterways-act-its-use-and-abuse/The work for which this ill-considered funding appeal was supposedly launched to pay for HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE by Nigel Moore, . . and published for the benefit and free use of all on 1 August 2016. This funding appeal was a pointless waste of time and money from day one !!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 18:36:26 GMT
The appeal for more cash was renewed again this morning for another 30 days -- although, oddly, it did still carry the following opening sentences from the most recent 'Update' (No.9 - 19 Sept, 2021) : - "We are extremely grateful to all the supporters who have made donations to this appeal. There has not been very much to report since the last update at the end of June. The appeal has been paused and may be wound up soon. This will not prevent us opening another appeal to continue the case if we believe this is necessary and appropriate. We have used the remainder of the funds to seek further advice from a senior Barrister regarding Canal & River Trust’s (CRT) response to our second Pre-Action Protocol letter."
The appeal pages can be found in full at :- < www.crowdjustice.com/case/protect-boats-homes/ > ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ See also this post from page 1 of this thread :- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/287073/thread > The article referred to was by Nigel Moore explaining the correct grounds, the Trust's long standing misuse of S.43 of the Transport Act of 1962, upon which to found an application for Judicial Review regarding C&RT's intended changes to the Licence T&C's, and is here :- kanda.boatingcommunity.org.uk/section-43-of-the-1962-waterways-act-its-use-and-abuse/The work for which this ill-considered funding appeal was supposedly launched to pay for HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE by Nigel Moore, . . and published for the benefit and free use of all on 1 August 2016. This funding appeal was a pointless waste of time and money from day one !! Idiot.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 30, 2021 17:59:39 GMT
< www.crowdjustice.com/case/protect-boats-homes/ > In comparison with the apparent support and enthusiasm initially shown by the Thunderboat membership on page 1 of this thread, the current level of interest appears to have declined somewhat. Is there any interest at all, on the part of those who donated, as to just who or what this still largely anonymous " coalition of boat dwellers", (the National Bargee Travellers Association) and " other support organisations" actually is, . . to say nothing of how several thousands of pounds was frittered away on nothing more than a couple of ineffectual letters that C&RT has completely ignored ? Please send answers, written in pencil, on the back of a signed blank cheque drawn in favour of Steve Jay, John Evans, Jenlyn, Steve Jenkin, Bedruthan, Walter Mitty, or E.M.Bezzler, c/o Richard Parry at the Canal & River Trust.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 18:20:27 GMT
< www.crowdjustice.com/case/protect-boats-homes/ > In comparison with the apparent support and enthusiasm initially shown by the Thunderboat membership on page 1 of this thread, the current level of interest appears to have declined somewhat. Is there any interest at all, on the part of those who donated, as to just who or what this still largely anonymous " coalition of boat dwellers", (the National Bargee Travellers Association) and " other support organisations" actually is, . . to say nothing of how several thousands of pounds was frittered away on nothing more than a couple of ineffectual letters that C&RT has completely ignored ? Please send answers, written in pencil, on the back of a signed blank cheque drawn in favour of Steve Jay, John Evans, Jenlyn, Steve Jenkin, Bedruthan, Walter Mitty, or E.M.Bezzler, c/o Richard Parry at the Canal & River Trust. Idiot boat loser.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 30, 2021 18:27:27 GMT
Somebody had a go at taking on CRT and it didn't get the response they required? You should join them Tony, be right up your street. He’s fallen out with the people involved. Other than the NBTA, who for obvious reasons are well known to many thousands of pleasure boaters, . . I don't know who ' the people involved' are, . . but in stating - quote - " He’s fallen out with the people involved." - you've made it very apparent that YOU DO KNOW who they are ! So, in light of this revelation, . . are you now prepared to identify these mysterious people who YOU say I have "fallen out with", and who hide behind a description of themselves as a " coalition of boat dwellers, the National Bargee Travellers Association and other support organisations" ? Is the fact that they're still inviting donations some 6 weeks after saying that the appeal had been "paused" associated in some way with their continuing anonymity, . . and YOUR previously undisclosed but now obvious connections with them ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 19:11:08 GMT
He’s fallen out with the people involved. Other than the NBTA, who for obvious reasons are well known to many thousands of pleasure boaters, . . I don't know who ' the people involved' are, . . but in stating - quote - " He’s fallen out with the people involved." - you've made it very apparent that YOU DO KNOW who they are ! So, in light of this revelation, . . are you now prepared to identify these mysterious people who YOU say I have "fallen out with", and who hide behind a description of themselves as a " coalition of boat dwellers, the National Bargee Travellers Association and other support organisations" ? Is the fact that they're still inviting donations some 6 weeks after saying that the appeal had been "paused" associated in some way with their continuing anonymity, . . and YOUR previously undisclosed but now obvious connections with them ? Idiot boat loser.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 2, 2021 7:22:30 GMT
I wonder if it's occurred to any of the invertebrate non-thinkers who so enthusiastically voiced their acceptance, or even approval, of C&RT's unnecessary limitation of the Ribble Link to around one quarter of its potential annual usage, that in doing so the Trust was in fact relying once again on its by now customary and habitual abuse of Section 43(3) of the Transport Act of 1962 -- the very same customary and habitual abuse of statutory powers that this crowdjustice appeal SHOULD have been directed at challenging via Judicial Review ?
For the benefit of the more seriously confused, stupid, and gullible of Thunderboat's active contributors, . . that's the same piece of inapplicable legislation that was used to ram the latest round of illegitimate and legally unenforceable boat licence T&C's down the majority of its customers overly receptive throats. Here, once again, is a brief reminder of how and why C&RT's lies regarding its authority to apply its own extra-statutory T&C's are put into effect :-
Section 43(3) of the Transport Act, far from giving CaRT open licence to charge for whatever they liked and to impose conditions for whatever they liked, on a unilateral basis, is in fact the one bit of legislation that specifically confirms the legislative principle that these charges and conditions cannot be made with respect to anything that had not previously been authorised as chargeable.
The licensing of boats on the canals, and the registration of boats on the rivers, was never encompassed within pre-1962 legislation, hence nothing in s.43 could possibly apply to those. When those became law under primary legislation, the conditions for issue were laid out – and to start with, nothing more was required for either, other than a paid for application. The PBC's [introduced under the BW Act 1971] to begin with were subject to rigid price structures, but after boat licences became compulsory [under the 1976 Byelaws] those prices were then subsequently abolished [under the 1983 Act] and the PBC simply pegged to 60% of the Licence [which BW could charge for as they wished].
The BW Act 1983 added an extension to byelaw making powers, so that issue of the boat Licence could be made subject to compliance with prescribed standards of construction and equipment of vessels, but that was never implemented, and the section was repealed under s.36 and Schedule 3 of the 1995 Act – which substituted the BSSC condition instead. The 1995 Act added the only other two applicable conditions, to which issue of relevant consents [to include the *PBC’s as well] were to be subject.
*PBC is the Pleasure Boat Certificate, which C&RT disingenuously refer to as a Rivers Only Licence. It is, legally speaking, not a licence as none is needed on the C&RT controlled river waterways -- for which the Public Right of Navigation still exists.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 9:41:58 GMT
I stopped reading at invertebrate non-thinkers..
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Post by kris on Nov 2, 2021 9:45:13 GMT
I stopped reading at invertebrate non-thinkers.. He’s posted exactly the same on another thread for you not to read.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 9:46:48 GMT
Ill go ignore it now..
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Post by kris on Nov 2, 2021 9:49:26 GMT
I’ve found it’s for the best.
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