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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 18, 2021 19:30:05 GMT
For the benefit of anyone naive or gullible enough to believe that poor old kris is getting an undeserved hard time, I'll remind you all that he was asked, several times, and BEFORE any of this was made public, if he really wanted to persist with a public argument on the internet. The answer was an emphatic 'yes', so, here's the draft letter again, . . plus the questions about it, and the associated comments, that he's been ducking for the last couple of weeks : --
kris nadin <krisnadin2002@yahoo.co.uk> Tue, Nov 14, 2017, 11:19 AM
Hello, My name is Kris nadin my boat is called MEDLOCK index number 76914. I'm writing to you in connection with an incident that happened on the Aire and Calder on 26th-27th of sept just below heck bridge. I was cruising along this stretch on the late afternoon early evening on the 26th sept. I moved over to allow space for a passing boat, where I ran aground on a concrete block about 12ft into the navigation. After unsuccessfully trying to reflate by various methods my friend went and fetched his boat and tried to tow me off. Which was unsuccessful, by this time it had become dark so we stayed overnight in this spot. In the morning we decided to run my anchor chain across the channel and use the anchor winch to winch the boat off. I thought it was best to phone yourselves and inform you of the obstacle to navigation this would cause whilst in progres. After explaining to the lady on the switch board that I didn't want RCR and that she had misunderstood what I was phoning for I talked to graham . Who then said he would send a boat from the yard the other side of the bridge. The boat turned up after trying to tow me off, they then pushed the boat off the block.
I'm writing to you as I'm concerned about damage to the plates and framing of my boat. I understand a few boats have run into difficulties on this stretch, which is why you have placed the yellow lolly pops just after the bridge. As can be seen from the photo I've attached the place of this incident was a good 500m from where the yello signs are. I'm wondering if I encounted the problem, because the level was lowered for the work to be carried out at ferry bridge the day before. Kind regards Kris
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Questions (that he avoids answering) : --
* Was the letter sent in the original 'as drafted' form, . . or did you send C&RT the advised re-draft I provided you with ?
* How's your memory with regard to the detailed advice I gave you later on about how, without the need for docking A41, you could temporarily stop the leaks around the damaged areas of the hull bottom plating and frames with small cement box or wedged in steel patches to allow for internal doubling and strengthening of the affected plating and frames before finally attending to the leaks themselves with an acceptably sound permanent repair ?
Comments (that he won't respond to either) : --
* I suspect that advice was dismissed, along with the offer of FoC ultra-sonic thickness testing of the hull plating, and that you simply went ahead with your own ill-conceived short-sighted panic measures of pouring something of the order of 10(+) tons of concrete, in one big slab, over all of the damaged, weakened, and leaking area.
* If that is what you did, it would certainly explain the irrational fears of grounding A41 that were so obviously haunting you last year with regard to 'parking' the boat on the undredged flood shoal at Barton Island. Who would want to risk restarting a lot of hull leaks that they had so recently, and so foolishly, made inaccessible and untraceable under a 10(+) ton concrete bodge-up, . . that their insurers almost certainly haven't been notified of as a (very) temporary leak stopping measure ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 19:35:09 GMT
Presumably because it can't rust. To be honest if a survey is required, so be it. I assume it will be every ten years ... but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Rog You are supposed to go under them not across - no wonder your attempt at boat thieving failed!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 19:56:47 GMT
Poetic licence ... it is the language of Shakespeare after all.
Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 18, 2021 19:58:08 GMT
For the benefit of anyone naive or gullible enough to believe that poor old kris is getting an undeserved hard time, I'll remind you all that he was asked, several times, and BEFORE any of this was made public, if he really wanted to persist with a public argument on the internet. The answer was an emphatic 'yes', so, here's the draft letter again, . . plus the questions about it, and the associated comments, that he's been ducking for the last couple of weeks : -- Nobody likes you Tony. Now, why don't you just take the hint?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 18, 2021 20:03:19 GMT
The requirement for surveys has changed too. I was warned I may need a survey when the boat became 20 years old , but didn't ... then at 25 years, but didn't ... best guess now is at 30 years old (in two years). Different insurers have different requirements and I am confident that thunderboat and The Dunk play no part. Rog I think that as the average age of boats becomes older and insurers experience no increase in age-related claims then they will tend to look on older boats as being of no greater risk and push out the boundaries. It may well be that by next year Tokio Marine will be happy to offer insurance on my boat without a survey. I certainly do not believe that Japan's oldest insurance underwriter, owned by Mitsubishi, which insures oil tankers and container ships spends a great deal of time on an internet forum with a couple of dozen active members trying to work out who has a dodgy £25,000 narrowboat. It must be very re-assuring to know that your boat is insured with the same company that used to offer life insurance policies to Kamikaze pilots.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 18, 2021 20:09:55 GMT
I think that as the average age of boats becomes older and insurers experience no increase in age-related claims then they will tend to look on older boats as being of no greater risk and push out the boundaries. It may well be that by next year Tokio Marine will be happy to offer insurance on my boat without a survey. I certainly do not believe that Japan's oldest insurance underwriter, owned by Mitsubishi, which insures oil tankers and container ships spends a great deal of time on an internet forum with a couple of dozen active members trying to work out who has a dodgy £25,000 narrowboat. It must be very re-assuring to know that your boat is insured with the same company that used to offer life insurance policies to Kamikaze pilots. It's reassuring to know that I've got a boat.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 18, 2021 20:10:21 GMT
Presumably because it can't rust. To be honest if a survey is required, so be it. I assume it will be every ten years ... but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Rog Ah but according to naughty cal if they are not stored ashore each winter they get galloping osmosis and all agree, she is an infallible expert
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 20:14:49 GMT
As with all things I guess, if they're not cared for they will deteriorate.
I know nothing about grp boats other than they don't have to be blacked.
I'm looking forward to your adventures on Shapfell next year fingers 🤞
Rog
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Post by metanoia on Aug 18, 2021 20:26:31 GMT
As with all things I guess, if they're not cared for they will deteriorate. I know nothing about grp boats other than they don't have to be blacked. I'm looking forward to your adventures on Shapfell next year fingers 🤞 Rog You - of all people - have a cheek calling someone else "fingers"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 20:30:25 GMT
Fingers crossed ... fingers 🤞 ... us kids do that kind of emoji shit man Rog
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Post by metanoia on Aug 18, 2021 20:33:56 GMT
Fingers crossed ... fingers 🤞 ... us kids do that kind of emoji shit man Rog Soz RoJ ...just bein a DfB as eveh
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Post by metanoia on Aug 18, 2021 20:35:13 GMT
eta - absolutely no idea what the face with the teeth means either but ......
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 18, 2021 21:30:16 GMT
I’ve just heard the river soar is closed, because of an issue with ratcliffe lock. Anybody know any more? An appropriate point, I think, at which to remind anyone following or participating in this thread that it began with the post quoted above, and was titled "River Soar closed ?". What were the reasons for the change of thread title from the original ? The lock -- Ratcliffe Lock -- referred to in post #1 is only a few minutes running time from where the poster's boat is moored, but as soon as he was made aware that shallows due to a build up of sand and silt mainly in and immediately below the lock chamber was the reason for the closure, he became very unenthusiastic about taking his boat round there to see the situation for himself. Do any possible reasons for this apparent fear of the risk of grounding on shoals and sandbanks come to mind ? Could it yet another manifestation of the fears of grounding A41 that were so obviously haunting him last year with regard to taking what he already knew to be a leaking and bodged up boat anywhere near the undredged flood shoal at Barton Island ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 21:40:39 GMT
It appears that you are the only one remotely interested or concerned (fixated even) Just let it go. kris and his boat is nothing to do with you. Why not focus on your own boat business. Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 18, 2021 21:42:48 GMT
I’ve just heard the river soar is closed, because of an issue with ratcliffe lock. Anybody know any more? Do any possible reasons for this apparent fear of shoals and sandbanks come to mind ? Could it yet another manifestation of the irrational fears of grounding A41 that were so obviously haunting him last year with regard to taking his already leaking and bodged up boat anywhere near the undredged flood shoal at Barton Island ? I think it's probably more that you have no credibility whatsoever on this forum and nobody would be remotely interested in doing anything you suggest. After all, if you knew the first thing about boating then you wouldn't have stood and watched as your own boat was towed away, once you had been summoned from the caravan you were living in.
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