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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2022 12:36:51 GMT
Looks like the 'tin foil hat nutter' was right. Again: "Fourth Vaccine Dose to Be Offered to Over-75s and High Risk in Spring and Rolled Out Widely in Autumn A fourth vaccine dose should be offered to all adults over-75 and the most vulnerable over-12s this spring and rolled out more widely in the autumn, vaccine advisory body the JCVI says. An autumn booster programme, aimed at a wider group of people, is also planned. It comes despite the emerging evidence from Israel that a fourth vaccine dose does little or nothing to reduce spread." www.bbc.com/news/uk-60465983
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2022 13:12:58 GMT
"I suspect the thinking was this – vax is announced, wall to wall propaganda, some doubts due to the speed of the development. But, “everyone” is taking it, so they take it to avoid confrontation or in some cases to avoid research and thinking. It is always easier to play along with a narrative as challenging it takes effort and occasionally some risk.
Then you meet a reasonable person you know who has declined. That person is an uncomfortable reminder you too could have declined. This creates mental anguish. You were weak, the other person wasn’t. At the very least it creates doubt.
It is far easier to pigeonhole the unvaxxed into a stereotype. A knuckle-dragging halfwit, a conspiracy theorist or misinformed person."
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Post by ianali on Feb 22, 2022 13:53:33 GMT
"I suspect the thinking was this – vax is announced, wall to wall propaganda, some doubts due to the speed of the development. But, “everyone” is taking it, so they take it to avoid confrontation or in some cases to avoid research and thinking. It is always easier to play along with a narrative as challenging it takes effort and occasionally some risk. Then you meet a reasonable person you know who has declined. That person is an uncomfortable reminder you too could have declined. This creates mental anguish. You were weak, the other person wasn’t. At the very least it creates doubt. It is far easier to pigeonhole the unvaxxed into a stereotype. A knuckle-dragging halfwit, a conspiracy theorist or misinformed person." I don’t believe that the majority of people think that those who declined the jabs are halfwits etc... I have friends who have chosen not to be jabbed. I and most of my vaccinated friends accept their decisions. In fact, the subject is hardly mentioned. Its only the likes of yourself and Jim that seem so hung up on the subject. It’s old news, time to change the record.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2022 16:52:21 GMT
"I suspect the thinking was this – vax is announced, wall to wall propaganda, some doubts due to the speed of the development. But, “everyone” is taking it, so they take it to avoid confrontation or in some cases to avoid research and thinking. It is always easier to play along with a narrative as challenging it takes effort and occasionally some risk. Then you meet a reasonable person you know who has declined. That person is an uncomfortable reminder you too could have declined. This creates mental anguish. You were weak, the other person wasn’t. At the very least it creates doubt. It is far easier to pigeonhole the unvaxxed into a stereotype. A knuckle-dragging halfwit, a conspiracy theorist or misinformed person." It’s old news, time to change the record. It's not 'old news' at all - you still can't leave the country or get back in without showing 'Covid papers' whether it be 'proof of being fully vaccinated' or having a 'negative test result'. Do you have any idea at all at what is happening around the world - even in Scotland and Wales which aren't very far from England? I very much doubt you can go anywhere without seeing people in face masks. You can pretend "it's all over" but you are a prisoner in your own country. Saying "I didn't want to go abroad anyway" doesn't make it all right. Anyway - Covid thread - beware all those who enter, an' all that!
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2022 17:26:07 GMT
"I suspect the thinking was this – vax is announced, wall to wall propaganda, some doubts due to the speed of the development. But, “everyone” is taking it, so they take it to avoid confrontation or in some cases to avoid research and thinking. It is always easier to play along with a narrative as challenging it takes effort and occasionally some risk. Then you meet a reasonable person you know who has declined. That person is an uncomfortable reminder you too could have declined. This creates mental anguish. You were weak, the other person wasn’t. At the very least it creates doubt. It is far easier to pigeonhole the unvaxxed into a stereotype. A knuckle-dragging halfwit, a conspiracy theorist or misinformed person." It’s old news, time to change the record. The Times has an article saying there will be TWO booster shots this year. So shot 5 is on the cards. 'Tin foil hat conspiracy theory' a few months ago.... supermarkets and garden centres have remained open throughout the 2-year 'pandemic' - how brave the staff are, working on 'the front line'!
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Post by ianali on Feb 23, 2022 9:12:39 GMT
It’s old news, time to change the record. It's not 'old news' at all - you still can't leave the country or get back in without showing 'Covid papers' whether it be 'proof of being fully vaccinated' or having a 'negative test result'. Do you have any idea at all at what is happening around the world - even in Scotland and Wales which aren't very far from England? I very much doubt you can go anywhere without seeing people in face masks. You can pretend "it's all over" but you are a prisoner in your own country. Saying "I didn't want to go abroad anyway" doesn't make it all right. Anyway - Covid thread - beware all those who enter, an' all that! I’m sure we did this recently, anyway, il give you the info again. I know some of what’s happening in the world yes. I have been abroad this year to Spain. I have been to Wales 3 times in the last 6 months. This does not feel like a prison sentence. I don’t care whether you are vaccinated or not. I would prefer that you stop spreading false information about me please.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 23, 2022 10:09:33 GMT
It's not 'old news' at all - you still can't leave the country or get back in without showing 'Covid papers' whether it be 'proof of being fully vaccinated' or having a 'negative test result'. Do you have any idea at all at what is happening around the world - even in Scotland and Wales which aren't very far from England? I very much doubt you can go anywhere without seeing people in face masks. You can pretend "it's all over" but you are a prisoner in your own country. Saying "I didn't want to go abroad anyway" doesn't make it all right. Anyway - Covid thread - beware all those who enter, an' all that! I would prefer that you stop spreading false information about me please. What 'false information' would that be? I don't see anything in my post that you quote that isn't true. Looks like you are the one spreading false information about me! You have lost the freedom you had to travel pre-March 2020 without the need to show 'papers' to 'prove your health status'. How can 'Covid' be "old news" when the so-called 'vaccinations' are to continue? 4th and 5th jabs to be rolled out this year.
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Post by ianali on Feb 23, 2022 10:19:47 GMT
I would prefer that you stop spreading false information about me please. What 'false information' would that be? I don't see anything in my post that you quote that isn't true. Looks like you are the one spreading false information about me! You have lost the freedom you had to travel pre-March 2020 without the need to show 'papers' to 'prove your health status'. How can 'Covid' be "old news" when the so-called 'vaccinations' are to continue? 4th and 5th jabs to be rolled out this year. You have posted several times that I am ‘a prisoner in my own country’ which can’t be true. I have left and returned to England several times recently. Please stop posting this false information.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2022 10:36:40 GMT
It's going to be wonderful when the Russian tanks roll into Finland and shut fuxy up for good 🤭
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 23, 2022 10:41:13 GMT
What 'false information' would that be? I don't see anything in my post that you quote that isn't true. Looks like you are the one spreading false information about me! You have lost the freedom you had to travel pre-March 2020 without the need to show 'papers' to 'prove your health status'. How can 'Covid' be "old news" when the so-called 'vaccinations' are to continue? 4th and 5th jabs to be rolled out this year. You have posted several times that I am ‘a prisoner in my own country’ which can’t be true. I have left and returned to England several times recently. Please stop posting this false information. Several times? You mentioned Spain once. Wales is part of the UK - it isn't a separate country, so it's a bit of a cheat to say you've been 'out of the country' by just going to Wales and back to England. My bet is you had to wear a face mask at the airport and on the plane to Spain - that makes you a 'prisoner of Covid'. Also Spain has been very keen on having everyone wear face masks both inside and outside. Also you would have had to have taken 'tests' and/or shown your 'Vaccine Passport' to be allowed entry to Spain, and for re-entry to the UK, with the threat of quarantine if tested and getting a 'positive' result. Not very freedom-like. "Please stop posting this false information." - it isn't false. You've lost the freedoms you enjoyed before March 2020.
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Post by patty on Feb 23, 2022 10:53:08 GMT
What 'false information' would that be? I don't see anything in my post that you quote that isn't true. Looks like you are the one spreading false information about me! You have lost the freedom you had to travel pre-March 2020 without the need to show 'papers' to 'prove your health status'. How can 'Covid' be "old news" when the so-called 'vaccinations' are to continue? 4th and 5th jabs to be rolled out this year. You have posted several times that I am ‘a prisoner in my own country’ which can’t be true. I have left and returned to England several times recently. Please stop posting this false information. I have just travelled from Wales, through England to Scotland Mask wearing seems to be up to the individual In Scotland we went for a meal... it was just like pre pandemic and a group of ladies in the corner certainly seemed to be enjoying themselves. It all felt normal.. very noisy but a happy crowd. I will go again.
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Post by ianali on Feb 23, 2022 11:00:02 GMT
You have posted several times that I am ‘a prisoner in my own country’ which can’t be true. I have left and returned to England several times recently. Please stop posting this false information. Several times? You mentioned Spain once. Wales is part of the UK - it isn't a separate country, so it's a bit of a cheat to say you've been 'out of the country' by just going to Wales and back to England. My bet is you had to wear a face mask at the airport and on the plane to Spain - that makes you a 'prisoner of Covid'. Also Spain has been very keen on having everyone wear face masks both inside and outside. Also you would have had to have taken 'tests' and/or shown your 'Vaccine Passport' to be allowed entry to Spain, and for re-entry to the UK, with the threat of quarantine if tested and getting a 'positive' result. Not very freedom-like. "Please stop posting this false information." - it isn't false. You've lost the freedoms you enjoyed before March 2020. You win! I’m not enjoying arguing with a guy that I like. I wish you well and hope you can find a way out of your current malaise.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 23, 2022 11:04:13 GMT
The only pandemic we witnessed was a pandemic of misinformation, lies, statistical fraud and state-sponsored censorship of truth and facts.
Most UK deaths will end up being care home patients murdered by the NHS and the 100,000 excess cancer deaths (estimated by 2024). Then there’s the recession induced 15 million years of life lost plus the 120 million quality life years lost (maybe have to reduce a bit because Guardian readers loved lockdown).
Governments kill more effectively than viruses. If they’d have ignored it we wouldn’t have noticed it.
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Post by Jim on Feb 25, 2022 12:07:59 GMT
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Post by kris on Feb 25, 2022 12:14:16 GMT
What you want another jab? Haven’t you had enough already?
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