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Post by kris on Jun 28, 2024 7:32:38 GMT
And that's why The Forum Needs You. I’m busy.
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Post by deleted on Jun 28, 2024 7:38:14 GMT
And that's why The Forum Needs You. I’m busy. and I'm Bashful.
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Post by kris on Jun 28, 2024 8:01:14 GMT
I’ll leave you to talk to your friend ric the dick.
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Post by deleted on Jun 28, 2024 8:37:01 GMT
And it's rub-a-dub-dub from Tone. He loves a good rub in the morning.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 28, 2024 14:30:32 GMT
The Ribble Link has been unnecessarily closed to navigation because of what the C&RT management clowns are calling - "a damaged seal on the Tidal Stop Gate lock, which is preventing operation." :- canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/28675-navgation-closure-ribble-linkNot only is this closure unnecessary, . . but the reason given is complete nonsense, and serves only to demonstrate yet again just how useless, incompetent, and generally unfit for purpose this wretched apology for a Mickey Mouse navigation authority really is. There is in fact no 'Tidal Stop Gate Lock' anywhere on the so-called Ribble Link, . . or anywhere else for that matter! There is, however, something known by professional competent Harbour, Port, and Navigation Authorities as a Half-tide Gate (or Barrier). It's situated a short distance up Savick Brook from where it runs into and joins the River Ribble, and it is the seal on this Half-Tide Gate that has failed. The sole function of this rising Half-tide Gate is to retain a constant minimum navigable depth of water of 0.9 metre (3 feet) in the short semi-tidal section of Savick Brook, up as far as the tail and outer/bottom cill of the Ribble Link Lock No. 8, when fully raised and closed. The minimum navigable depth of water of 0.9 metre (3 feet) retained in the lower semi-tidal section of Savick Brook with the Half-tide Gate raised (closed) is equivalent to a tide height in the lower section of Savick Brook and the River Ribble of (Chart Datum plus) 7.9 metres, or 3.0 metres above Ordnance Datum Newlyn (ODN), 0.4 metre above Mean High Water Neaps (MHWN), and 1.3 metres below Mean High Water Springs (MHWS). The so-called Ribble Link is in reality and practical terms, open to navigation as normal, albeit with a variable and reduced period of time, particularly on smaller tides, when there is sufficient depth of water available for passage through the short lower semi-tidal section of Savick Brook from the Half-Tide Gate to Lock No.8. It follows therefore, that there is absolutely no need for any pre-booked passages to be cancelled, . . the only necessity being for operations and boat movements to be planned, supervised, and completed in a rather more professional and organised manner than has been previously achieved by the C&RT, . . and this would almost certainly mean most if not all of the Tarleton to Preston (UP) passages being completed in two stages with an overnight stay at Preston Docks Marina, until the seal on the Half-Tide Gate is repaired/replaced. Further details, advice, and pilotage services are available through the Thunderboat Forum or contacting me at :- < Tonydtrent@gmail.com > or on Mobile 07903 063179
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 28, 2024 17:16:11 GMT
The Ribble Link has been unnecessarily closed to navigation because of what the C&RT management clowns are calling - "a damaged seal on the Tidal Stop Gate lock, which is preventing operation." :- canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/28675-navgation-closure-ribble-linkNot only is this closure unnecessary, . . but the reason given is complete nonsense, and serves only to demonstrate yet again just how useless, incompetent, and generally unfit for purpose this wretched apology for a Mickey Mouse navigation authority really is. There is in fact no 'Tidal Stop Gate Lock' anywhere on the so-called Ribble Link, . . or anywhere else for that matter! There is, however, something known by professional competent Harbour, Port, and Navigation Authorities as a Half-tide Gate (or Barrier). It's situated a short distance up Savick Brook from where it runs into and joins the River Ribble, and it is the seal on this Half-Tide Gate that has failed. The sole function of this rising Half-tide Gate is to retain a constant minimum navigable depth of water of 0.9 metre (3 feet) in the short semi-tidal section of Savick Brook, up as far as the tail and outer/bottom cill of the Ribble Link Lock No. 8, when fully raised and closed. The minimum navigable depth of water of 0.9 metre (3 feet) retained in the lower semi-tidal section of Savick Brook with the Half-tide Gate raised (closed) is equivalent to a tide height in the lower section of Savick Brook and the River Ribble of (Chart Datum plus) 7.9 metres, or 3.0 metres above Ordnance Datum Newlyn (ODN), 0.4 metre above Mean High Water Neaps (MHWN), and 1.3 metres below Mean High Water Springs (MHWS). The so-called Ribble Link is in reality and practical terms, open to navigation as normal, albeit with a variable and reduced period of time, particularly on smaller tides, when there is sufficient depth of water available for passage through the short lower semi-tidal section of Savick Brook from the Half-Tide Gate to Lock No.8. It follows therefore, that there is absolutely no need for any pre-booked passages to be cancelled, . . the only necessity being for operations and boat movements to be planned, supervised, and completed in a rather more professional and organised manner than has been previously achieved by the C&RT, . . and this would almost certainly mean most if not all of the Tarleton to Preston (UP) passages being completed in two stages with an overnight stay at Preston Docks Marina, until the seal on the Half-Tide Gate is repaired/replaced. Further details, advice, and pilotage services are available through the Thunderboat Forum or contacting me at :- < Tonydtrent@gmail.com > or on Mobile 07903 063179 Maybe, but it doesn’t really matter. CRT control the Link locks and if they decide they need to close the route, they are going to close the route no matter what you or I say. It’s over 3 weeks until our passage, surely that is enough time even for them to fix the problem.
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Post by Trina on Jun 28, 2024 18:02:45 GMT
Pigging hope so ! If we don't do it this time we're giving up ! At least we crossed the Wash which was brill-Ribble link would tick another box !
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Post by Arnac on Aug 26, 2024 8:34:51 GMT
We're one of the many boats currently stuck on the Lancaster waiting to see if CRT have any plans to facilitate a window of opportunity for boats to cross the Ribble before the autumn. The latest I have from official updates is that there will be a limited period of seven days from 20th September to bypass the breach works on the Lanky in either direction and that the works on the Ribble lock seal will be starting in early October. Passage will therefore not be possible once this work starts. I have not managed to get a response from CRT to this question. I appreciate there are lots of variables, however, it would be helpful if they would confirm if they are intending to try and facilitate crossings, even if circumstances eventually dictate they cannot. Has anyone managed to get a more definitive answer from CRT?
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Post by dogless on Aug 26, 2024 8:44:19 GMT
Hope you get free as promised 🤞🤞
Although occasionally discussed, I don't believe anyone here is on the Lancaster and those who were booked to go this summer cancelled due to the problems.
If anyone has more info I'm sure they'll be along shortly.
Good luck.
Rog
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Post by Arnac on Aug 26, 2024 9:32:42 GMT
Hope you get free as promised 🤞🤞 Although occasionally discussed, I don't believe anyone here is on the Lancaster and those who were booked to go this summer cancelled due to the problems. If anyone has more info I'm sure they'll be along shortly. Good luck. Rog Cheers Rog. It's the hope that kills you lol.
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Post by dogless on Aug 26, 2024 11:00:50 GMT
Let us know if you break free ... just out of interest 🤞
Rog
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Post by deleted on Aug 27, 2024 3:11:56 GMT
Hi Arnac.
I don't know if you've been reading TB for long, but presumably even a short time should be enough for you to realise that our resident lune, Tony Dunkley should be ignored at all times. Do not contact him.
If you follow his advice, you'll be sorry. Tony will happily place you and your boat in danger merely to satisfy his own crazy agenda.
If, due to ongoing works, you cannot transit the Ribble Link, and you absolutely have to get out of there, consider road haulage as a final resort.
Good luck.
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Post by deleted on Aug 27, 2024 11:07:38 GMT
It's interesting that Dunkley is now attempting to suggest he is some way allied to anyone at Preston docks or anybody associated with any boatyard or, in fact, marine services of any sort. Unless the name of any such body is 'Wreckit and Scapa'.
BTW, his tagline also attempts to lure the foolish into believing he is some sort of professional. But this is bullshit, as is everything else he says.
Still, if you are terminally thick, incredibly reckless and possibly suicidal, Dunkley's your guy.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Aug 27, 2024 16:55:57 GMT
We're one of the many boats currently stuck on the Lancaster waiting to see if CRT have any plans to facilitate a window of opportunity for boats to cross the Ribble before the autumn. The latest I have from official updates is that there will be a limited period of seven days from 20th September to bypass the breach works on the Lanky in either direction and that the works on the Ribble lock seal will be starting in early October. Passage will therefore not be possible once this work starts. I have not managed to get a response from CRT to this question. I appreciate there are lots of variables, however, it would be helpful if they would confirm if they are intending to try and facilitate crossings, even if circumstances eventually dictate they cannot. Has anyone managed to get a more definitive answer from CRT? Hello Arnac, . . and welcome to Thunderboat. I doubt there'll be any definitive answers from C&RT for you, or anyone else wanting to make the passage from Preston back to the Rufford Arm at Tarleton. But the good news is that with the joint co-operation of Preston Marina (Preston Docks), Douglas Marine (boatyard at Hesketh Bank on River Douglas), and Mayors Boatyard at Tarleton, who operate Tarleton Lock for C&RT, we can advise, schedule, and assist with passage from the Lancaster back onto the L&L's Rufford Arm at Tarleton for everyone who's been left stranded by the C&RT. God will be of considerable assistance too, . . he's still sending two tides up the Ribble every day, . . and the majority of them are big enough - 8.0 metres or more on the River Gauge at Preston Docks - to put enough water in the lower parts of Savick Brook for shallow draught canal boats, . . whatever nonsense the clowns at C&RT are saying to the contrary. Do you know roughly how many boats in total are wanting to get back from off the Lancaster before Winter ? With the Half-Tide Gate/Barrier at the low end of the semi-tidal section of Savick Brook out of use, it's very unlikely that any passages from Preston back to Tarleton will be possible without at least a one tide layover in either Preston Docks, or on a floating stage at Hesketh Bank on the River Douglas. Have the C&RT given any specific reasons, valid or otherwise, for limiting passage past the site of the breach at the aqueduct to seven days starting on 20 September ? Please call or e-mail if you would like more details, or any questions you'd like to have answered. You may well have read them already, but there are quite a few posts in this thread and others that you'll find informative and useful. I'll post links to them as soon as I've got time. Regards, Tony Dunkley.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 27, 2024 17:08:26 GMT
Hi Arnac. I don't know if you've been reading TB for long, but presumably even a short time should be enough for you to realise that our resident lune, Tony Dunkley should be ignored at all times. Do not contact him. If you follow his advice, you'll be sorry. Tony will happily place you and your boat in danger merely to satisfy his own crazy agenda. This can't be stressed too much really. Tony Dunkley is a highly deranged individual whose long-standing vendetta against CRT cost him his own boat, which was removed by CRT under a Section 8 notice because he refused to get a boat licence or BSS, and the best efforts of everyone here to help him with sound advice which would have enabled him to keep his boat was met with vitriol and venom. Any advice he gives to other boaters will have one aim and one aim only, to further this vendetta.
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