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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 8:23:30 GMT
Yes the Klipper did look like it hadn't been out for a while. I didn't really notice the length but it seemed to be a quality job being carried out in a very simple uncovered dry dock beside the lock. Really nice to see.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 22, 2018 9:28:53 GMT
I'll have a look if there is a train going there as I am visiting my sister in a couple of weeks time. She lives in Pré St Gervais with her french Husband. I always like seeing the boats when in France. Also visiting Dijon. Where are you ? May be able to come and annoy you over a cup of tea if you happen to be on a train route I don't know about the public transports to get there, if I had to go there I think that I would use a bicycle that you can use for free for 30mins, if you need one for longer, you'll have to pay for it, unless you deposit the bicycle before the 30mins are gone, and take another one, to get another 30mins for free. But to safe you the hassle (?) of going there, you can see these barges on "Google Earth" here between Quai Ouest and Paris Nautique: I live normally on my boat in Sens, which is the first stop on the train from Paris to Dijon, but as it's such an incredible mess on my boat there that I've sofar been unable to clear up, I don't want any visitors here, as nobody has to see the terrible mess I'm living in, and apart from that my blow up girlfriend is too shy, she doesn't like to see strange faces. But a few stops further is a town called Joigny, and that's where the small barge of my avatar is moored, and I haven't made such a terrible mess there (yet), so if you want to stop by there for a cup of tea, that could be arranged without too much difficulties, I'm only a 10mins car ride away from the yard at Migennes there. As you have my phone-number you can call me when the time comes, or if you're worried that my voice will scare you through the phone, you can always use the PM methode. Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 22, 2018 9:39:29 GMT
Yes the Klipper did look like it hadn't been out for a while. I didn't really notice the length but it seemed to be a quality job being carried out in a very simple uncovered dry dock beside the lock. Really nice to see. The guys that bought these 2 barges did know how to work with steel, they were good welders. What they weren't very good with was clearing up their mess after their jobs there were done, and now you can't rent that very cheap drydock anymore to do your DIY jobs, which really is a shame, as it was most convenient for low-budget people like me. The only bad thing there was the lack of depth to get in there, as there was only about 80cms over the sill, but with some talking to the first lock above they could give a bit more water to raise the level. When I went in there with my 38M tankerbarge the quay at Migennes was flooded to allow me to get just over the sill, which didn't make the hireboat place people happy, and of course that had to be repeated to let me get out. Now the nearest place for me is the yard at Migennes where they can crane my boats out, as they weight less than the 40Ton their crane can lift, but that is quite a lot more expensive. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 9:48:03 GMT
That's a shame when people take advantage of a good thing with no respect and the outcome is that other people are no longer able to take advantage of it in a respectful way.
Does seem to be the way things happen. C'est la vie !
Will pm you about Migennes.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 22, 2018 9:59:33 GMT
That's a shame when people take advantage of a good thing with no respect and the outcome is that other people are no longer able to take advantage of it in a respectful way. Does seem to be the way things happen. C'est la vie ! Will pm you about Migennes. That may be the best-and safest solution, as I'm sure my phone is tapped . Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 10:48:21 GMT
I've sent you two PMs as I am aware the security services randomly screen my messages. Hopefully at least one will get through OK
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Post by bargemast on Mar 22, 2018 11:59:57 GMT
I've sent you two PMs as I am aware the security services randomly screen my messages. Hopefully at least one will get through OK They've both arrived, but I've only replied to the last one . Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 22, 2018 12:09:39 GMT
If my circumstances were different I would really like to buy a Pèniche and have it shortened to about 20m. It would make a great cruising boat for the Thames. 5m beam is a lovely size for a boat. Not sure how it would handle but I think it'd be OK. I have seen a shortened Pèniche at Nogent-sur-Marne near Paris. Funny looking but a nice living space. At £35k the boat in kris' latest link would be a worthwhile project. Reading this again, you can't really go to 20M, as the beam of these barges is normally about 5M05, that will make it over 100m2 already. Also you have to see the draft at the deepest point, as when that's more than 1M you'll be over the 100M3 and be in the sh.. too. Around 18M50 (a bit more then 60') would be good to play safe. There are plenty of places for shortening in the Netherlands, Belgium and France, so that won't be a problem. Even shortened there will be quite a lot of space left in one of these barges. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 8:18:06 GMT
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Post by bargemast on Mar 24, 2018 8:48:49 GMT
I agree that the starting price isn't very high. One thing that many people forget because they become sort of blind because of love for a pretty shaped old tug, is that such a cheap boat may very well end up costing a lot more than a boat that would have been more expensive to start with. This could very well be a (the ?) reason why the seller, who only bought this boat a short while ago, wants to sell already. Maybe after realising how much it will cost to get the boat in "reasonable" good shape again. A wooden boat covered in steel doesn't look like an ideal boat to me (but who am I ?) Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 9:05:56 GMT
Exactly. Its a very dodgy boat and I suspect he may even have to give it away. And it should certainly not be used as a houseboat. Convert it back to its original form would be best.
As I said before this is a boat CRT should buy, use volunteers to restore it and use it to reach out to the public "keeping history and people connected" Trips through Islington tunnel and the lock in an original boat which worked the canal. I'd be happy to be involved with it but I do NOT want to own it.
Heritage railways are quite popular with the public so why not heritage boats ?
I mean real ones not shiny brass and neckerchiefs belonging to private individuals.
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Post by kris on Mar 24, 2018 10:32:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 11:27:04 GMT
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Post by kris on Mar 24, 2018 11:33:48 GMT
I wouldn't touch that with a long pole, some boats should just be let die. Sad as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 11:37:54 GMT
I agree. Its moored right near me so I think having a look is worthwhile and the owner is around so not inconvenient.
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