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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 19:33:25 GMT
I guess you have not steered one of these boats. Its worth a go if you get an opportunity I'm sure they are better than most modern widebeams, but it's still just a modern widebeam.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 19:39:35 GMT
Not really. Its more of a modern English barge. I don't think you'd find a wide beam with that underwater shape. Some of them have chines but normally the lead in to the propeller is vertical plating not sloped. This makes a big difference to the way a boat handles.
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 19:48:43 GMT
Not really. Its more of a modern English barge. I don't think you'd find a wide beam with that underwater shape. Some of them have chines but normally the lead in to the propeller is vertical plating not sloped. This makes a big difference to the way a boat handles. Yes I'm aware of that, but I'm still not,impressed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 19:54:22 GMT
The 49 footer I linked to is not a particularly nice looking boat I agree with that but for actual boating it would be satisfactory and easy to deal with single handed without any fuss or bother. That's my priority with boats. I really like beautiful old boats as well but I suspect on overall balance they would be a bit annoying in the same way that a generic modern wide beam would be. Compromise
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 20:01:13 GMT
The 49 footer I linked to is not a particularly nice looking boat I agree with that but for actual boating it would be satisfactory and easy to deal with single handed without any fuss or bother. That's my priority with boats. I really like beautiful old boats as well but I suspect on overall balance they would be a bit annoying in the same way that a generic modern wide beam would be. Compromise So you've sailed an old wide English barge to compare then?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 20:02:58 GMT
To be fair I haven't no. I've seen them out of the water and put two and two together though.
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 20:05:08 GMT
I think you would be very surprised with how well the wide yarwoods boats handle.
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Post by peterboat on Jun 7, 2018 20:05:11 GMT
I like the boat not a bad shape good space nice name took me back years, however like you its a bit expensive and the insulation is crap
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 9:32:23 GMT
Both my P&A boats have rock wool. Its not too bad really. I know sprayfoam is seen as the best option but once a boat starts aging I wonder how the bond holds up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 9:34:51 GMT
On second thoughts you would want to put portholes in the hull, so forget it and by the non descript euro box. Yes - I've already planned where to cut the 6 inch diameter holes on that particular boat ! It is a bit rude cutting into old hulls but as it is an essential feature for me in any reasonably big barge I would have to do it so modern boats are more appropriate.
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2018 9:47:41 GMT
On second thoughts you would want to put portholes in the hull, so forget it and by the non descript euro box. Yes - I've already planned where to cut the 6 inch diameter holes on that particular boat ! It is a bit rude cutting into old hulls but as it is an essential feature for me in any reasonably big barge I would have to do it so modern boats are more appropriate. Yes best you leave the room od boats for people that appreciate them. Especially a boat like lake that is so unusual.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 9:53:17 GMT
Yes - I've already planned where to cut the 6 inch diameter holes on that particular boat ! It is a bit rude cutting into old hulls but as it is an essential feature for me in any reasonably big barge I would have to do it so modern boats are more appropriate. Yes best you leave the room od boats for people that appreciate them. Especially a boat like lake that is so unusual. I have done that all my life I did briefly own an old Bantock narrow boat but it was not me who actually bought it. I appreciate old boats _ when they are someone else's. I quite liked the mirror thing that bargemast described. Done well that could be interesting but its not the same as low level opening portholes. They bring a whole new dimension to living in a floating metal box- for me anyway
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2018 9:58:03 GMT
Yes best you leave the room od boats for people that appreciate them. Especially a boat like lake that is so unusual. I have done that all my life I did briefly own an old Bantock narrow boat but it was not me who actually bought it. I appreciate old boats _ when they are someone else's. I quite liked the mirror thing that bargemast described. Done well that could be interesting but its not the same as low level opening portholes. They bring a whole new dimension to living in a floating metal box- for me anyway I understand why people do it on really deep boats like Humber keels, but there wouldn't really be a need on a boat like lake. As I keep saying its one of only three similar hulls so would be a real shame. It's usually done so badly as well.
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2018 17:51:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 19:27:08 GMT
Blimey ! That is an unbelievably beautiful hull. I have to admit I agree with you about not putting holes in there What a lovely lovely boat. I hadn't seen a proper picture of the stern before. I was convincing myself it was a square stern but looking at it it most certainly is not. Lovely thing. Rudder looks a bit wrong but that could be sorted out. Is it £30k in beer tokens then ? I know the cabin at the front is based on the shape of the hold covers but does that not cause a forward view problem from steering position ?
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