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Post by bargemast on Sept 13, 2018 17:50:39 GMT
I didn't know that. I thought a bakdekker was a pleasure cruiser with an open cockpit or "back deck". do you think the boat I posted a picture of is a bakdekker which has had the open cockpit covered over to provide more accommodation ? The "Bakdekker" motoryacht were developped as rich peoples watertoys mainly between 1920 and 1940 and the bakdek was the full with section up front without any side decks, underneath there used to be a toilet, a small galley and sleeping area. There are still quite a few around, some after extensive and very expensive restaurations, and there is a club of Bakdekker owners and several yearly meetings. Here's a video of one of these meetings where you can see some examples : Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Sept 13, 2018 17:54:35 GMT
Here's another video of the launch of one (bit of an el cheapo I think ) that's quite a bit bigger than most others. Too bad that there's so much wind noice on the video, but you can switch the sound off. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 18:15:54 GMT
Thanks for that peter. I didn't know any of that. I guess my little colvic 20 would be called a "bakdekker" in Holland A toy boat as you say - spotted last Tuesday at Lechlade on Thames.
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Post by waldamar on Sept 13, 2018 22:40:13 GMT
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Post by waldamar on Sept 13, 2018 22:44:21 GMT
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Post by bargemast on Sept 14, 2018 5:03:18 GMT
That has been a rather nice boat at some stage of her life. In the ad it says :"When fully restored and will be worth a small fortune", that is probably true, but it will need an awful lot of time and money to get her back into that stage. Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Sept 14, 2018 5:08:25 GMT
These TID Tugs do look good (can look good), we had one here for several years until it finally sold. It's name was "Ernest Brown" TID 95, sadly enough, it's no longer as she's been scrapped. www.ouest-france.fr/la-triste-fin-du-remorqueur-ernest-brown-576820There one big thing wrong with them, the biggest room that would be useful, is the engineroom. (they may have a bit too much draft for your mooring too) Peter.
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Post by waldamar on Sept 16, 2018 19:05:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 20:12:25 GMT
They don't mention the thickness of the GRP layup. That's quite worrying. And no mention of approximate draught or displacement. Very amateurish. 38x12ft is a nice size for a lifeboat conversation.
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Post by bargemast on Sept 17, 2018 13:29:07 GMT
They don't mention the thickness of the GRP layup. That's quite worrying. And no mention of approximate draught or displacement. Very amateurish. 38x12ft is a nice size for a lifeboat conversation. I don't think that there's a need to worry about the thickness of the GRP layup, this boat was made in 1961 ? when almost all GRP was done with hand layup. Also ships lifeboats had to pass severe tests, they were very far from DIY jobs done on a sunday afternoon in ones garden. Now at 57 years of age, if there's no osmoses, which is seldom found in old hand layed up GRP boats, it could still be a bargain. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 14:27:14 GMT
I agree it will be a bargain I was just pointing out that the advert needed more detail in it. Eta
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Post by bargemast on Sept 17, 2018 16:11:52 GMT
I agree it will be a bargain I was just pointing out that the advert needed more detail in it. Eta I do entirely agree that the ad could have had a lot more details in it, but my reaction was because you wrote : "They don't mention the thickness of the GRP layup. That's quite worrying", I had the (wrong ?) impression that that was what you were pointing out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 16:17:19 GMT
I think they should give base side and cabin measurements like narrow boats. To put people at ease.
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Post by bargemast on Sept 17, 2018 17:37:35 GMT
I think they should give base side and cabin measurements like narrow boats. To put people at ease. In the ad it was very clear that there's a lot of work to do on that boat, and that it's sold as is, someone that doesn't like what the previous owner has done, can start all over again adapting it to his/her wishes and requirements. Personally I really can't see why people wouldn't be at easy for a cheap deal like that, you can't expect a flight to the moon (or to Mars if you prefer). As it's not a narrowboat, but a former cruise-liner lifeboat that was made to safely transport 50 to 60 people, I don't think that there's much to worry about from that point of view. Btw, you didn't say if I'd wrongly interpretated what you wrote before about the quite worrying lack of GRP thickness info in the ad, as that was far from clear. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 18:14:40 GMT
"Interpreted" not "interpret a Ted" anyone would think you were French ! Anyway just to clarify it for you peter I was responding to waldamar comment that he "likes a fullsome listing" in a jovial way in an attempt to introduce some (probably rather obscure) humour.
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