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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:54:59 GMT
This one wins hands down for me. My favourite motorsailer of them all since I was 15. Fisher 30. Just perfect. No idea how they sail but they look "just right"
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Post by Jim on Oct 13, 2018 18:00:03 GMT
This one wins hands down for me. My favourite motorsailer of them all since I was 15. Fisher 30. Just perfect. No idea how they sail but they look "just right" ah! Saw one of those last time I went to Garlieston, they have a lovely cheeky behind!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
Nice imitation of the back end of an MFV. Speaking of which that one I put a photo of in Limehouse (without a mooring) is up for Β£180k (without a mooring). Oh dear !! m.apolloduck.com/boat/house-boats-conversion/582713?rid=gr&cid=2&z=gr2Its no longer on that mooring as that was a sublet from the barge "Onward" which has now returned. Its a nice boat but at end of day its a wooden MFV conversion without a mooring. Its got a "6 cylinder Roland direct drive" power unit apparently. Thats something I have not come across before is it a typo?
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Post by kris on Oct 13, 2018 18:15:36 GMT
Nice imitation of the back end of an MFV. Speaking of which that one I put a photo of in Limehouse (without a mooring) is up for Β£180k (without a mooring). Oh dear !! m.apolloduck.com/boat/house-boats-conversion/582713?rid=gr&cid=2&z=gr2Its no longer on that mooring as that was a sublet from the barge "Onward" which has now returned. Its a nice boat but at end of day its a wooden MFV conversion without a mooring. Its got a "6 cylinder Roland direct drive" power unit apparently. Thats something I have not come across before is it a typo? thats very optimistically priced even for london.
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Post by patty on Oct 13, 2018 19:48:40 GMT
I think its one of the most beautiful boats out..so right..whose gonna buy it and invite me on board?? One day we WILL buy something very like this - and on that day it would be my absolute pleasure and privilege to do so Patty! π U r so kind....
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Post by kris on Oct 15, 2018 9:05:55 GMT
I'm confused it says narrowbeam then it's 10ft wide? It's interesting if by the hold depth they mean draught then at 3ft4inches you would have problems on the canals.i
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Post by bargemast on Oct 15, 2018 9:27:54 GMT
I'm confused it says narrowbeam then it's 10ft wide? It's interesting if by the hold depth they mean draught then at 3ft4inches you would have problems on the canals.i This boat looks like an old converted tug to which they've added a sort of narrowboat stern. The woodwork inside looks rather nice, and of good quality, wood-and workmans wise. The steering position must be quite awkward, as you can't sit-or stand straight behind the wheel. A JP-4 is a nice engine for a boat like this, if used on deep enough water, for canal use only, a JP-2 would have been plenty, with that shape. Peter.
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Post by kris on Oct 15, 2018 9:55:34 GMT
I'm confused it says narrowbeam then it's 10ft wide? It's interesting if by the hold depth they mean draught then at 3ft4inches you would have problems on the canals.i This boat looks like an old converted tug to which they've added a sort of narrowboat stern. The woodwork inside looks rather nice, and of good quality, wood-and workmans wise. The steering position must be quite awkward, as you can't sit-or stand straight behind the wheel. A JP-4 is a nice engine for a boat like this, if used on deep enough water, for canal use only, a JP-2 would have been plenty, with that shape. Peter. I agree about the wood work. I think the stern looks a bit strange. Your going to know the jp4 very well as your so close to it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 17:40:55 GMT
Thanks for putting that up tomos Its a bit of an odd one. I agree with Kris its got a bit of a "wrong" look to the back end. And that JP4 is not in a very satisfactory location. Β£70k seems a lot to me. 5mm overplating done 12 years ago might be a bit naughty as well although does appear to have been done properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 17:43:04 GMT
I'm confused it says narrowbeam then it's 10ft wide? It's interesting if by the hold depth they mean draught then at 3ft4inches you would have problems on the canals.i This boat looks like an old converted tug to which they've added a sort of narrowboat stern. The woodwork inside looks rather nice, and of good quality, wood-and workmans wise. The steering position must be quite awkward, as you can't sit-or stand straight behind the wheel. A JP-4 is a nice engine for a boat like this, if used on deep enough water, for canal use only, a JP-2 would have been plenty, with that shape. Peter. The bows are very very similar to thames tugs but you would have expected the original stern. If asked I would say its a tug. I've seem the refuelling barges they don't look anything like that. and 10ft is not wide enough. I'm going to call it a modified Thames tosher tug.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 6:43:45 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Oct 17, 2018 7:03:35 GMT
I agree Andrew, a very pretty litle conversion
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Post by bargemast on Oct 17, 2018 7:04:29 GMT
It's very likely that only a short while ago all the dark woodwork received a few coats of light coloured paint, to make it look more modern and bigger at the same time. This one is fitted with the only DAF 525 ever made, more likely to be a typing error, as I'm inclined to make that a DAF 575. Pretty, but not very practical as a liveabord, as there won't be a passage between the front- and rear accomodation, as the engineroom will be inbetween. Btw, this boat is at the same spot as the tanker barges that waldamar looked at a few weeks ago. Peter.
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Post by kris on Oct 17, 2018 7:23:43 GMT
I suppose if you buy a tug to live on the accomadation is always going to be a compromise.
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Post by bargemast on Oct 17, 2018 7:36:48 GMT
I suppose if you buy a tug to live on the accomadation is always going to be a compromise. Yes it is Kris, but as this one has been a former steam tug, I've seen a few coverted to diesel power tugs where the engineroom had been moved much further after, as there was no need for the coal bunkers and the huge engine space that the steam-plant needed, and that way the accomodation had become much more practical. Nowadays one could install a smallish engine wherever it's not too much in the way, and have an hydraulic-or electric drive to the prop, saving up masses of useful space. A job like that would be much too much costly work to do now on a tug like "Rooie Nel" ("Red Nel"), and apart from just a boat to play with or for w-e excursions, it wouldn't be my choice. But other people may (and will) have different priorities, and it could be the perfect boat for them. Peter.
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