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Post by kris on Jan 9, 2023 11:36:33 GMT
Your disagreement with the second point seems to be founded on a presumption that controlling, or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'. The art of controlling, or steering, a boat in such a way is something that died out a long time ago, . . along with the operation of commercial carrying with narrowboats working in pairs, . . and all the other labour and time saving methods and techniques that were once an essential part of everyday canal boating. Perhaps you could document the correct method, then we could try it and it wouldn't die out. Don’t encourage him ffs.
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Post by Aloysius on Jan 9, 2023 12:57:54 GMT
Still, it was a boaty-themed thread.
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Post by on Jan 9, 2023 14:08:25 GMT
I feel that the title gave the game away a little bit here.
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Post by Aloysius on Jan 9, 2023 14:30:45 GMT
The inherent sneering derision factor is both obligatory and inevitable, you miserable vacuous arsehole.
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Post by on Jan 9, 2023 14:35:12 GMT
The inherent sneering derision factor is both obligatory and inevitable, you miserable vacuous arsehole. You may be right, despite being a worthless inconsequential nobody. Don't ask me how I knew that !
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Post by fi on Jan 9, 2023 16:39:28 GMT
First point I'll accept. Second point totally disregards what the idea/system was designed for (i.e. someone of old age and struggling to manhandle a boat on their own). Your disagreement with the second point seems to be founded on a presumption that controlling, or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'. The art of controlling, or steering, a boat in such a way is something that died out a long time ago, . . along with the operation of commercial carrying with narrowboats working in pairs, . . and all the other labour and time saving methods and techniques that were once an essential part of everyday canal boating. Often it doesn't require a big effort, there are locks where it takes a fair amount of thinking about how you would do it though and still a fair degree of physical effort plus skill/luck if the wind is against you. Mind you, not sure I'd be happy steering a boat with the bow thruster in high winds or past a weir/strong bywash.
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Post by Jim on Jan 9, 2023 17:10:23 GMT
Perhaps you could document the correct method, then we could try it and it wouldn't die out. Don’t encourage him ffs. It could be interesting if he posted something useful, he knows a lot, only lacking in knowing how to deal with CRT effectively.
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Post by Jim on Jan 9, 2023 17:15:08 GMT
Your disagreement with the second point seems to be founded on a presumption that controlling, or steering, a boat with a line from the towpath necessarily means putting in a big physical effort to achieve the desired result. Fact is, that if done correctly, it doesn't, . . particularly now that there are so many towpath bollards conveniently situated above and below single and double canal locks along so-called 'lock landings'. The art of controlling, or steering, a boat in such a way is something that died out a long time ago, . . along with the operation of commercial carrying with narrowboats working in pairs, . . and all the other labour and time saving methods and techniques that were once an essential part of everyday canal boating. Often it doesn't require a big effort, there are locks where it takes a fair amount of thinking about how you would do it though and still a fair degree of physical effort plus skill/luck if the wind is against you. Mind you, not sure I'd be happy steering a boat with the bow thruster in high winds or past a weir/strong bywash. I got pinned to the offside stonework going into a lock with a strong bywash. I presumed it was a river feed, lock tail is adjacent to a wier in the adjacent stream. I had to lever myself along with a 2m Ali scaff bar. Got earache too, when it smacked into the wall and disturbed swmnbd. I realised when through the lock that it was the bywash and I could have run water through to lower the upper pound and made life easy. Next time...
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Post by fi on Jan 9, 2023 17:22:36 GMT
Often it doesn't require a big effort, there are locks where it takes a fair amount of thinking about how you would do it though and still a fair degree of physical effort plus skill/luck if the wind is against you. Mind you, not sure I'd be happy steering a boat with the bow thruster in high winds or past a weir/strong bywash. I got pinned to the offside stonework going into a lock with a strong bywash. I presumed it was a river feed, lock tail is adjacent to a wier in the adjacent stream. I had to lever myself along with a 2m Ali scaff bar. Got earache too, when it smacked into the wall and disturbed swmnbd. I realised when through the lock that it was the bywash and I could have run water through to lower the upper pound and made life easy. Next time...If you tried to run water through at Uxbridge lock (to reduce the flow of the lock bywash) you would be waiting for some time! Not sure how long, but the Colne Vally holds quite a bit of water...
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Post by on Jan 9, 2023 17:53:14 GMT
I think he might have been a little further North than that. Outboard motors and wives are nice but they can do terrible things to the range of the boat.
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Post by fi on Jan 9, 2023 18:01:59 GMT
I think he might have been a little further North than that. Outboard motors and wives are nice but they can do terrible things to the range of the boat. Bloomin northerners - they all think the world stops south of watford!
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Post by on Jan 9, 2023 18:12:29 GMT
They probably even think it refers to Watford Gap.
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Post by Jim on Jan 9, 2023 18:21:43 GMT
I think he might have been a little further North than that. Outboard motors and wives are nice but they can do terrible things to the range of the boat. Bloomin northerners - they all think the world stops south of watford! We're 'ard up north. Certainly not bothered by a bit of a drip or two from down south or from C&H lock gates. Mattress round the prop? Lift the outboard. No need to spend hours stuck in the badlands clutching a Bowie Knife in a trembling hand. Reversing? I'll race you! Complete failure of motor, just drop a new one on. As for waitress service, bacon butties, coffee and fresh scones while at the tiller, what's not to like, there are many other benefits you Bishop Beaters miss out on too. Of course there is length of pound to take into consideration for my plan, however it's a fairly short pound, 300m, and one lockfull of water stopped the bywash to a trickle.
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Post by Jim on Jan 9, 2023 18:24:34 GMT
They probably even think it refers to Watford Gap. We know about the Watford Gap.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 9, 2023 18:25:43 GMT
Bloomin northerners - they all think the world stops south of watford! We're 'ard up north. Certainly not bothered by a bit of a drip or two from down south or from C&H lock gates. Mattress round the prop? Lift the outboard. No need to spend hours stuck in the badlands clutching a Bowie Knife in a trembling hand. Reversing? I'll race you! Complete failure of motor, just drop a new one on. As for waitress service, bacon butties, coffee and fresh scones while at the tiller, what's not to like, there are many other benefits you Bishop Beaters miss out on too. Congratulations on a very well argued, succinct and logical defence of outboard motors. Now try doing the same for that shitty Halfords roof box of yours.
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