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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 9:24:32 GMT
That is an interesting point too.
Glad I asked.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 9:27:58 GMT
Making two interesting points in one day, I must be careful it’s not good enough.
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Post by on Apr 21, 2023 9:30:35 GMT
Yes. I am patting myself on the back for asking in the first place. It will be interesting to see what they do with Mr Ward.
The problem is that there is history for this kind of thing ending up illegal. Squatting is the obvious comparison. It was banned in 2012 for residential properties.
Of course canals arrr not quite the same but one does wonder if changes to the legality might come from elsewhere rather than the navigation authority.
A good point about general slums and tents and the likes but I still think this might not end up being tolerated for much longer.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 9:36:39 GMT
Interesting that crt felt it necessary to address Tony’s remarks directly.
Tonight, the Canal & River Trust rubbished claims by canal boating expert Tony Dunkley that it has exceeded its authority and powers.
The Trust said: "The Trust has followed the correct process and has the legal right to take this action.
"Unfortunately, following a long period of time liaising with the owner of two longstanding unlicenced boats on the Kennet & Avon Canal, the Trust yesterday (19 April) removed one of them. Unless the owner is able to secure a home mooring for the second boat, we will have no other option but to return and remove it.
"Taking action to remove a boat from the water is upsetting and is always a last resort. It only happens when a boat owner refuses to follow the rules over a long period of time, during which we have repeatedly tried to resolve the issues and difficulties with them.
"We make sure that in all cases any decision to remove a boat that is lived on has first been independently scrutinised by a Judge. We act within the law at all times, with the Judge considering each and every case and confirming that we are acting in accordance with our powers under s.8 of the British Waterways Act 1983."
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 9:39:40 GMT
A good point about general slums and tents and the likes but I still think this might not end up being tolerated for much longer. [/div]
[/quote] what are they supposed to do? Unless society becomes more caring and is prepared to spend more looking after the less fortunate then there is only going to be an increase of informal settlements. You can keep moving them on, but unless an alternative is provided then they are not going to go away.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 21, 2023 9:44:00 GMT
The following account, relating to the public exposure of C&RT Ltd's long term fraudulent misuse and abuse of its statutory powers under Section 8 of the British Waterways Act 1983 will also be posted elsewhere, . . but I think it appropriate to repeat it here - for as many times as necessary - if only as something of an antidote to the sheer volume of mindless garbage deposited on this thread by the members of the Thunderboat mental cripples club, . . and, more importantly, to give C&RT Ltd CEO Richard Parry, and Company Secretary, Book Cooker in Chief, and Head of Illegal and Connivance Services, Tom Deards, something to ponder, when it's reported back to them by their squads of internet stooges.
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This C&RT Ltd fiasco and undoing, staged on 19 April 2023 at Bradford-on-Avon, was attended in person by C&RT Ltd's Solicitor-Advocate, Lucy Barry, and her equally dishonest colleague, Matthew Aymes, the Trust's national Customer and Licence Support manager (sic). I was pleased to have my good wishes passed on to them both via people that I was in direct contact with, and who were on site throughout the whole day.
A big 'thank you and well done' is due to Wiltshire Police Sgt D. Lane, who, fortunately for George Ward, and a great many others, knew and understood the powers and limitations of the (Declaratory & Injunctive Relief) Court Order with which C&RT Ltd were, after first unlawfully evicting him from, were fraudulently and in contempt of Court intending unlawfully to 'seize' and transport away the boat on which George Ward is living.
It must go on record that Police Sgt Lane's conduct and handling of the situation was correct to the letter of the law and wholly in order, . . in sharp contrast with the four thick ill-trained Nottinghamshire Police officers who attended and actively assisted C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs in the fraudulent seizure and ultimate theft of my boat Halcyon Daze on 22 October 2020.
It must also be noted at this stage that, since being exposed for the frauds they were, and proof of their true status being put into Police and other evidence, the C&RT Ltd/Commercial Boat Services (bogus) Bailiffs have now been redesignated - by professional liar and C&RT Ltd Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry - as "contracted security operatives", . . the guise in which they arrived in Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April, assuming that the Police would be evicting George Ward from his boat/home and then detaining or restraining him whilst their Commercial Boat Services colleagues towed it away.
I doubt, but sincerely hope, that the C&RT Ltd, having made a failed and wholly unlawful attempt on 19 April 2023 to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions specified in a printed (on the Court Order) warning relating to non-compliance with paras 2) & 3) of the Injunction section of the Court Order, . . in law and in Court procedures, the sole preserve of the Courts to apply and enforce, . . will now be so foolish as to go back to the Court to ask it to enforce the very same non-compliance sanctions that it has so recently, unsuccessfully, and unlawfully, attempted to enforce itself.
The C&RT's 19 April 2023 calculated and knowing misuse and of the (Court) Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief that this so-called charitable Trust obtained against George Ward has left its dishonest management and lawyers in something of a quandary. Asking the Court to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions listed in the printed warning that accompanies every Injunction Order the Courts make, . . only after first making an illegal abortive attempt to enforce it themselves, and with the unwitting assistance of the Police, . . will of course leave Deards, Barry, Aymes & co. in the position of having to explain away every previous occasion on which they have taken it upon themselves to contemptuously assume the role and powers of the Court in unlawfully seizing and disposing of targeted boatowners homes and/or assets without the Court's approval or authority so to do.
The lid has finally been very publicly blown off C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services criminal activities, . . and the way is now open for everyone who has had a boat and contents unlawfully seized by this so-called charitable Trust and its crooked contractors to initiate the process of recovering their stolen goods and property.
On 19 April 2023, at Bradford-on-Avon, C&RT Ltd's team of retained boat thieves were stopped in their tracks because for the first time, ever, they were unlucky enough to encounter an intelligent and well trained Police officer who recognised the fact that the Court Order, . . under which C&RT Ltd and its re-invented "contracted security operatives" (former bogus Bailiffs) were intending, with the by now customary and taken for granted Police assistance, to unlawfully evict a boatowner from their home/boat and fraudulently and in contempt of Court seize and transport away a Section 8'd boat, . . did NOT in reality confer any such power or authority, . . or order the execution of any such action.
All this is obviously very difficult and confusing for some of the mental cripples both on here, on CWDF, at C&RT Ltd, and at Commercial Boat Services, who would rather not, or cannot, grasp or understand any of these simple truths and facts, . . but when all's said and done, that's their problem.
On Wednesday 19 April 2023, the luck of a great many past victims of C&RT Ltd's dishonesty, contempt for the law, and for common decency, took a turn for the better, . . C&RT Ltd's luck, on the other hand, ran out, . . and it was all thanks to a decent, right-thinking, and well trained Police Officer who saw through the fraudulently misrepresented Court Order, and through all the customary and well rehearsed misdirections and lies being peddled by C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 9:47:10 GMT
Tony fuck off you stupid twat. Can’t you email crt directly?
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Post by Jim on Apr 21, 2023 10:51:25 GMT
The following account, relating to the public exposure of C&RT Ltd's long term fraudulent misuse and abuse of its statutory powers under Section 8 of the British Waterways Act 1983 will also be posted elsewhere, . . but I think it appropriate to repeat it here - for as many times as necessary - if only as something of an antidote to the sheer volume of mindless garbage deposited on this thread by the members of the Thunderboat mental cripples club, . . and, more importantly, to give C&RT Ltd CEO Richard Parry, and Company Secretary, Book Cooker in Chief, and Head of Illegal and Connivance Services, Tom Deards, something to ponder, when it's reported back to them by their squads of internet stooges. _____________________________________________________ This C&RT Ltd fiasco and undoing, staged on 19 April 2023 at Bradford-on-Avon, was attended in person by C&RT Ltd's Solicitor-Advocate, Lucy Barry, and her equally dishonest colleague, Matthew Aymes, the Trust's national Customer and Licence Support manager (sic). I was pleased to have my good wishes passed on to them both via people that I was in direct contact with, and who were on site throughout the whole day. A big 'thank you and well done' is due to Wiltshire Police Sgt D. Lane, who, fortunately for George Ward, and a great many others, knew and understood the powers and limitations of the (Declaratory & Injunctive Relief) Court Order with which C&RT Ltd were, after first unlawfully evicting him from, were fraudulently and in contempt of Court intending unlawfully to 'seize' and transport away the boat on which George Ward is living. It must go on record that Police Sgt Lane's conduct and handling of the situation was correct to the letter of the law and wholly in order, . . in sharp contrast with the four thick ill-trained Nottinghamshire Police officers who attended and actively assisted C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs in the fraudulent seizure and ultimate theft of my boat Halcyon Daze on 22 October 2020. It must also be noted at this stage that, since being exposed for the frauds they were, and proof of their true status being put into Police and other evidence, the C&RT Ltd/Commercial Boat Services (bogus) Bailiffs have now been redesignated - by professional liar and C&RT Ltd Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry - as "contracted security operatives", . . the guise in which they arrived in Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April, assuming that the Police would be evicting George Ward from his boat/home and then detaining or restraining him whilst their Commercial Boat Services colleagues towed it away.
I doubt, but sincerely hope, that the C&RT Ltd, having made a failed and wholly unlawful attempt on 19 April 2023 to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions specified in a printed (on the Court Order) warning relating to non-compliance with paras 2) & 3) of the Injunction section of the Court Order, . . in law and in Court procedures, the sole preserve of the Courts to apply and enforce, . . will now be so foolish as to go back to the Court to ask it to enforce the very same non-compliance sanctions that it has so recently, unsuccessfully, and unlawfully, attempted to enforce itself.
The C&RT's 19 April 2023 calculated and knowing misuse and of the (Court) Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief that this so-called charitable Trust obtained against George Ward has left its dishonest management and lawyers in something of a quandary. Asking the Court to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions listed in the printed warning that accompanies every Injunction Order the Courts make, . . only after first making an illegal abortive attempt to enforce it themselves, and with the unwitting assistance of the Police, . . will of course leave Deards, Barry, Aymes & co. in the position of having to explain away every previous occasion on which they have taken it upon themselves to contemptuously assume the role and powers of the Court in unlawfully seizing and disposing of targeted boatowners homes and/or assets without the Court's approval or authority so to do.
The lid has finally been very publicly blown off C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services criminal activities, . . and the way is now open for everyone who has had a boat and contents unlawfully seized by this so-called charitable Trust and its crooked contractors to initiate the process of recovering their stolen goods and property. On 19 April 2023, at Bradford-on-Avon, C&RT Ltd's team of retained boat thieves were stopped in their tracks because for the first time, ever, they were unlucky enough to encounter an intelligent and well trained Police officer who recognised the fact that the Court Order, . . under which C&RT Ltd and its re-invented "contracted security operatives" (former bogus Bailiffs) were intending, with the by now customary and taken for granted Police assistance, to unlawfully evict a boatowner from their home/boat and fraudulently and in contempt of Court seize and transport away a Section 8'd boat, . . did NOT in reality confer any such power or authority, . . or order the execution of any such action.
All this is obviously very difficult and confusing for some of the mental cripples both on here, on CWDF, at C&RT Ltd, and at Commercial Boat Services, who would rather not, or cannot, grasp or understand any of these simple truths and facts, . . but when all's said and done, that's their problem. On Wednesday 19 April 2023, the luck of a great many past victims of C&RT Ltd's dishonesty, contempt for the law, and for common decency, took a turn for the better, . . C&RT Ltd's luck, on the other hand, ran out, . . and it was all thanks to a decent, right-thinking, and well trained Police Officer who saw through the fraudulently misrepresented Court Order, and through all the customary and well rehearsed misdirections and lies being peddled by C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry. Tonight, the Canal & River Trust rubbished claims by canal boating expert Tony Dunkley that it has exceeded its authority and powers. The Trust said: "The Trust has followed the correct process and has the legal right to take this action. "Unfortunately, following a long period of time liaising with the owner of two longstanding unlicenced boats on the Kennet & Avon Canal, the Trust yesterday (19 April) removed one of them. Unless the owner is able to secure a home mooring for the second boat, we will have no other option but to return and remove it. "Taking action to remove a boat from the water is upsetting and is always a last resort. It only happens when a boat owner refuses to follow the rules over a long period of time, during which we have repeatedly tried to resolve the issues and difficulties with them. "We make sure that in all cases any decision to remove a boat that is lived on has first been independently scrutinised by a Judge. We act within the law at all times, with the Judge considering each and every case and confirming that we are acting in accordance with our powers under s.8 of the British Waterways Act 1983."
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 11:02:00 GMT
Your only encouraging him Jim.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 21, 2023 11:02:25 GMT
Interesting that crt felt it necessary to address Tony’s remarks directly. Tonight, the Canal & River Trust rubbished claims by canal boating expert Tony Dunkley that it has exceeded its authority and powers. The Trust said: "The Trust has followed the correct process and has the legal right to take this action. Aymes is just as thick and dishonest, and just as much of an arsehole as you are, . . and he's also incapable of getting anything right, . . again, just like you Nowhere and at no time have I stated or claimed that C&RT Ltd successfully exceeded its authority and powers on 19 April 2023 at Bradford-on-Avon. What I said was that threatening or attempting to evict someone from their boat and then to seize and tow away the boat was exceeding the so-called Trust's statutory powers, . . there is a big difference, . . but you'll need someone whose knuckles don't drag along the ground when they walk to explain that to you. Neither do the C&RT Ltd, or their renamed/reinvented bogus Bailiffs, have authority and/or powers to impose or execute non-compliance sanctions that are the exclusive preserve of the Courts, . . as the Wiltshire Police Sgt so clearly agreed - after he was made aware of the nature and extent of the Declaratory and Injunctive Relief (Court) Order that C&RT Ltd professional liars Aymes and Lucy Barry were knowingly misrepresenting as an enforcement power authorizing eviction and seizure.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 11:05:52 GMT
Interesting that crt felt it necessary to address Tony’s remarks directly. Tonight, the Canal & River Trust rubbished claims by canal boating expert Tony Dunkley that it has exceeded its authority and powers. . Yes yes Tony. Why didn’t you just lock yourself in? It seems more effective than the action you took.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 21, 2023 11:06:44 GMT
Aymes is just as thick and dishonest, and just as much of an arsehole as you are, . . and he's also incapable of getting anything right, . . again, just like you Nowhere and at no time have I stated or claimed that C&RT Ltd successfully exceeded its authority and powers on 19 April 2023 at Bradford-on-Avon. What I said was that threatening or attempting to evict someone from their boat and then to seize and tow away the boat was exceeding the so-called Trust's statutory powers, . . there is a big difference, . . but you'll need someone whose knuckles don't drag along the ground when they walk to explain that to you. Neither do the C&RT Ltd, or their renamed/reinvented bogus Bailiffs, have authority and/or powers to impose or execute non-compliance sanctions that are the exclusive preserve of the Courts, . . as Wiltshire Police's Sgt Lane so clearly agreed - after he was made aware of the nature and extent of the Declaratory and Injunctive Relief (Court) Order that C&RT Ltd professional liars Aymes and Lucy Barry were knowingly misrepresenting as an enforcement power authorizing eviction and seizure. Yes yes Tony. Why didn’t you just lock yourself in? It seems more effective than the action you took. Because he was in his house when CRT turned up.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 11:08:02 GMT
Yes yes Tony. Why didn’t you just lock yourself in? It seems more effective than the action you took. Because he was in his house when CRT turned up. I think George is more intelligent than Tony.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 21, 2023 11:15:23 GMT
The following account, relating to the public exposure of C&RT Ltd's long term fraudulent misuse and abuse of its statutory powers under Section 8 of the British Waterways Act 1983 will also be posted elsewhere, . . but I think it appropriate to repeat it here - for as many times as necessary - if only as something of an antidote to the sheer volume of mindless garbage deposited on this thread by the members of the Thunderboat mental cripples club, . . and, more importantly, to give C&RT Ltd CEO Richard Parry, and Company Secretary, Book Cooker in Chief, and Head of Illegal and Connivance Services, Tom Deards, something to ponder, when it's reported back to them by their squads of internet stooges. _____________________________________________________ This C&RT Ltd fiasco and undoing, staged on 19 April 2023 at Bradford-on-Avon, was attended in person by C&RT Ltd's Solicitor-Advocate, Lucy Barry, and her equally dishonest colleague, Matthew Aymes, the Trust's national Customer and Licence Support manager (sic). I was pleased to have my good wishes passed on to them both via people that I was in direct contact with, and who were on site throughout the whole day. A big 'thank you and well done' is due to Wiltshire Police Sgt D. Lane, who, fortunately for George Ward, and a great many others, knew and understood the powers and limitations of the (Declaratory & Injunctive Relief) Court Order with which C&RT Ltd were, after first unlawfully evicting him from, were fraudulently and in contempt of Court intending unlawfully to 'seize' and transport away the boat on which George Ward is living. It must go on record that Police Sgt Lane's conduct and handling of the situation was correct to the letter of the law and wholly in order, . . in sharp contrast with the four thick ill-trained Nottinghamshire Police officers who attended and actively assisted C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs in the fraudulent seizure and ultimate theft of my boat Halcyon Daze on 22 October 2020. It must also be noted at this stage that, since being exposed for the frauds they were, and proof of their true status being put into Police and other evidence, the C&RT Ltd/Commercial Boat Services (bogus) Bailiffs have now been redesignated - by professional liar and C&RT Ltd Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry - as "contracted security operatives", . . the guise in which they arrived in Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April, assuming that the Police would be evicting George Ward from his boat/home and then detaining or restraining him whilst their Commercial Boat Services colleagues towed it away.
I doubt, but sincerely hope, that the C&RT Ltd, having made a failed and wholly unlawful attempt on 19 April 2023 to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions specified in a printed (on the Court Order) warning relating to non-compliance with paras 2) & 3) of the Injunction section of the Court Order, . . in law and in Court procedures, the sole preserve of the Courts to apply and enforce, . . will now be so foolish as to go back to the Court to ask it to enforce the very same non-compliance sanctions that it has so recently, unsuccessfully, and unlawfully, attempted to enforce itself.
The C&RT's 19 April 2023 calculated and knowing misuse and of the (Court) Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief that this so-called charitable Trust obtained against George Ward has left its dishonest management and lawyers in something of a quandary. Asking the Court to enforce the fining, imprisonment or asset seizure sanctions listed in the printed warning that accompanies every Injunction Order the Courts make, . . only after first making an illegal abortive attempt to enforce it themselves, and with the unwitting assistance of the Police, . . will of course leave Deards, Barry, Aymes & co. in the position of having to explain away every previous occasion on which they have taken it upon themselves to contemptuously assume the role and powers of the Court in unlawfully seizing and disposing of targeted boatowners homes and/or assets without the Court's approval or authority so to do.
The lid has finally been very publicly blown off C&RT Ltd and Commercial Boat Services criminal activities, . . and the way is now open for everyone who has had a boat and contents unlawfully seized by this so-called charitable Trust and its crooked contractors to initiate the process of recovering their stolen goods and property. On 19 April 2023, at Bradford-on-Avon, C&RT Ltd's team of retained boat thieves were stopped in their tracks because for the first time, ever, they were unlucky enough to encounter an intelligent and well trained Police officer who recognised the fact that the Court Order, . . under which C&RT Ltd and its re-invented "contracted security operatives" (former bogus Bailiffs) were intending, with the by now customary and taken for granted Police assistance, to unlawfully evict a boatowner from their home/boat and fraudulently and in contempt of Court seize and transport away a Section 8'd boat, . . did NOT in reality confer any such power or authority, . . or order the execution of any such action.
All this is obviously very difficult and confusing for some of the mental cripples both on here, on CWDF, at C&RT Ltd, and at Commercial Boat Services, who would rather not, or cannot, grasp or understand any of these simple truths and facts, . . but when all's said and done, that's their problem. On Wednesday 19 April 2023, the luck of a great many past victims of C&RT Ltd's dishonesty, contempt for the law, and for common decency, took a turn for the better, . . C&RT Ltd's luck, on the other hand, ran out, . . and it was all thanks to a decent, right-thinking, and well trained Police Officer who saw through the fraudulently misrepresented Court Order, and through all the customary and well rehearsed misdirections and lies being peddled by C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry. Tonight, the Canal & River Trust rubbished claims by canal boating expert Tony Dunkley that it has exceeded its authority and powers. The Trust said: "The Trust has followed the correct process and has the legal right to take this action. "Unfortunately, following a long period of time liaising with the owner of two longstanding unlicenced boats on the Kennet & Avon Canal, the Trust yesterday (19 April) removed one of them. Unless the owner is able to secure a home mooring for the second boat, we will have no other option but to return and remove it. "Taking action to remove a boat from the water is upsetting and is always a last resort. It only happens when a boat owner refuses to follow the rules over a long period of time, during which we have repeatedly tried to resolve the issues and difficulties with them. "We make sure that in all cases any decision to remove a boat that is lived on has first been independently scrutinised by a Judge. We act within the law at all times, with the Judge considering each and every case and confirming that we are acting in accordance with our powers under s.8 of the British Waterways Act 1983." See my post (above) replying to the moron who stores Shit-for-Brains Coventon's brain transplant organs for him.
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Post by kris on Apr 21, 2023 11:18:30 GMT
Your still a sad old man Tony.
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