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Post by brummieboy on Apr 28, 2023 17:06:54 GMT
Before long half the people interacting may be non existent, six inches under and represented by clever AI alco rhythms. You herd it here first. I think you have already started the trend of AI alco rhythms
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 29, 2023 6:02:10 GMT
The more 'switched on' of those following the George Ward saga will probably have been asking themselves the same question that C&RT Ltd's Head of Fraud, Theft & Legal Fiction, Tom Deards, would almost certainly have begun asking himself on the evening of 19 April 2023, . . and will certainly be asking himself now that his remarkbly thick and dishonest National Customer/Licence Support Manager, Matthew Aymes, has committed his employers to a second fraudulent and in contempt of Court attempt to illegally evict George from his boat, and the waterways for the present under their control, as a prelude to fraudulently 'seizing' it and towing it away to be disposed of by crooked contractors, Commercial Boat Services.
The question being ~ Why, given that on 23 January 2023 the C&RT Ltd had obtained one of its standard (Court) Orders for Declaratory & Injunctive Relief, was the 19 April 2023 outcome not what was expected and so very different from every previous occasion when C&RT Ltd have fraudulently misrepresented a Court Order. The normal procedure with C&RT Ltd in possession of one its much loved much abused Court Orders is to lie to the Police and fool them into believing that the Trust has a Court Order entitling it to evict a boatowner from their boat and/or home and then to seize and tow away the boat for ultimate disposal by sale or other means ?
Well, . . Mr Deards, . . have you figured it out yet? Have you worked out how, and by whom, the Police Sargeant in charge at Bradford-on-Avon on Wednesday 19 April 2023 was made aware that your minions were lying about and misrepresenting the so-called Trust's precious 'Court Order', . . and that it didn't authorise, order, or empower your bogus Bailiffs - now redesignated by Trust Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry as "contracted security operatives" - to evict George Ward from his boat, . . or authorise, order, or empower the C&RT to instruct its crooked contractors to tow it away and to permanently deprive its rightful owner of it by selling or otherwise disposing of it ?
If, . . Mr Deards, . . you and your employers intend to to proceed with this matter, there are only two options open to you. You could go back to the Court that made the 23 January 2023 Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief, explain away the attempted fraud and purge the Contempt of Court committed by you and your minions on 19 April 2023, and then ask the Court to enforce the Injunction part [paras 2) and 3) of the Order by way of the sanctions specified in the warning printed on it. Do you want to do that ?
Or, alternatively, you could go back to Wiltshire Police, . . and try to change the minds of the senior Officers who advised and instructed the Police Sargeant in attendance at Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April 2023 with regard to the only appropriate and lawful action to take in the circumstances of the position in which the C&RT had put the Police by asking them to attend and assist with what The Trust knew to be an unlawful eviction from and the seizure of a privately owned boat and contents. Which is it to be ?
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Post by on Apr 29, 2023 6:15:34 GMT
It is an interesting one to watch anyway.
If it turned out the CRT can't do anything one wonders what the process will be going forwards.
I'm not convinced it is all that good if nothing can be done as I do think the canals could become pikey sites quite quickly and nobody wants that.
Time will tell. Maybe certain people will be left alone to do what they like or maybe they won't.
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Post by Murgatroyd on Apr 29, 2023 6:30:22 GMT
Typically what happens in these sorts of situations is, sadly, that those with the authority become increasingly assertive in the use of it. So what will most likely happen is that CRT will obtain further sanction from the court and enlist greater support from the cops to execute it, while the more militant amongst the boating community will very likely be organising stronger resistance. This sort of thing is known as a 'riot'. Also I anticipate a less passive response than before from George (assuming he doesn't take full advantage of the reprieve won and leg it)...
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 29, 2023 7:39:34 GMT
Leaving aside the confusion that abounds with regard to the true nature and powers of C&RT Ltd's much favoured and consistently misrepresented 'Court Orders', . . the essential point being almost universally missed is that one factor on its own, on 19 April last, thwarted C&RT in its customary illegal intentions and actions for the very first time ever.
That singular first time factor that made all the difference was the senoir Police Officer attending, at C&RT Ltd's request, . . who, unfortunately for them, was conscientious enough, and well informed and intelligent enough, to read and most importantly, understand, the wording of the 23 January 2023 (Court) Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief, . . the one that C&RT Ltd lawyer Lucy Barry and Customer Service/Licence Support Manager Matthew Aymes were fraudulently and knowingly in contempt of Court attempting to pass off as a 'seizure power' ordering the eviction of the boat's owner from the boat and the 'seizure' of the boat itself.
This Police Sargeant's view of the true situation, and his attitude, changed markedly a short time after his arrival on scene at George Ward's boat. On arrival he announced that he didn't know all the details about the situation, . . but, that come what may - " the boat MUST GO TODAY" - which was of course a direct reflection of the fraudulent misdirections - lies, in other words - that had been fed to Wiltshire Police by C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry, . . both world class professional liars, and two of the directing minds behind C&RT Ltd's regularly and well practised fraudulent Section 8 boat stealing scams.
Once made aware of the true situation regarding the Court Order, . . and its true nature, true powers and limitations, . . the Police Sargeant, with the full support of the senior duty Officers on that shift, refused quite rightly, to comply with C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry's unlawful bidding. This has never happened before, . . with the Police Officers summoned to every previous one of C&RT Ltd's knowingly unlawful evicting and boat stealing parties being completely taken in by the carefully rehearsed lies they have been told.
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Post by on Apr 29, 2023 8:24:43 GMT
Tony.
It is a fair point you make but you are making a basic assumption.
I don't think you actually know why nothing happened on that day.
There are other possible explanations including the fact there was an audience in attendance.
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Post by on Apr 29, 2023 8:28:25 GMT
IF it got messy and the geyser on the boat did something like set fire to the boat or use violence it would be unacceptable to have members of the public at the scene because of basic elfin safety laws and duty of care.
I am not saying you are wrong and what you suggest is obviously very interesting (as always !)but it is an assumption.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 29, 2023 9:18:30 GMT
IF it got messy and the geyser on the boat did something like set fire to the boat or use violence it would be unacceptable to have members of the public at the scene because of basic elfin safety laws and duty of care. I am not saying you are wrong and what you suggest is obviously very interesting (as always !)but it is an assumption. No, . . no assumptions, . . none at all. Just verifiable facts, and some direct involvement through getting the necessary information in respect of the 23 January Court Order and C&RT Ltd's actual powers "pursuant to Section 8 of the 1983 Act" - ie. the truth - to the Wiltshire Police Sergeant in charge on the day. The information reached the Police via interested parties on scene who relayed it to them from me, . . and to C&RT Ltd's National Customer/Licence Support Manager, Matthew Aymes, . . and Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry, who were both there in person, taking the lead and actively participating in lying to the Police, attempted fraud, and contempt of Court. My intervention must have made their day for them, . . NOT, . . and for the Trust's Head of Fraud, Theft & Legal Fiction, Tom Deards, . . who was only there in spirit, and probably very glad of it.
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Post by kris on Apr 29, 2023 10:06:15 GMT
So you should be thanking me Antony. Without me posting the thread you would have never known the eviction was happening.
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Post by on Apr 29, 2023 10:34:32 GMT
Right. Name and number of the senior police officer. As you were able to ensure you were heard you will of course know who was listening.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 29, 2023 10:49:34 GMT
The more 'switched on' of those following the George Ward saga will probably have been asking themselves the same question that C&RT Ltd's Head of Fraud, Theft & Legal Fiction, Tom Deards, would almost certainly have begun asking himself on the evening of 19 April 2023, . . and will certainly be asking himself now that his remarkbly thick and dishonest National Customer/Licence Support Manager, Matthew Aymes, has committed his employers to a second fraudulent and in contempt of Court attempt to illegally evict George from his boat, and the waterways for the present under their control, as a prelude to fraudulently 'seizing' it and towing it away to be disposed of by crooked contractors, Commercial Boat Services.
The question being ~ Why, given that on 23 January 2023 the C&RT Ltd had obtained one of its standard CPR Part 8 (Court) Orders for Declaratory & Injunctive Relief, was the 19 April 2023 outcome not what was expected and so very different from every previous occasion when C&RT Ltd have been successful in fraudulently misrepresented a Court Order. The normal procedure with C&RT Ltd in possession of one of these much loved much abused Court Orders is to lie to the Police and fool them into believing that the Trust has a Court Order entitling it to evict a boatowner from their boat and/or home and then to seize and tow away the boat for ultimate disposal by sale or other means ?
Well, . . Mr Deards, . . have you figured it out yet? Have you worked out how, and by whom, the Police Sargeant in charge at Bradford-on-Avon on Wednesday 19 April 2023 was made aware that your minions were lying about and misrepresenting the so-called Trust's precious 'Court Order', . . and that it didn't authorise, order, or empower your bogus Bailiffs - now redesignated by Trust Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry as "contracted security operatives" - to evict George Ward from his boat, . . or authorise, order, or empower the C&RT to instruct its crooked contractors to tow it away and to permanently deprive its rightful owner of it by selling or otherwise disposing of it ?
If, . . Mr Deards, . . you and your employers intend to to proceed with this matter, there are only two options open to you. You could go back to the Court that made the 23 January 2023 Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief, explain away the attempted fraud and purge the Contempt of Court committed by you and your minions on 19 April 2023, and then ask the Court to enforce the Injunction part [paras 2) and 3) of the Order by way of the sanctions specified in the warning printed on it. Do you want to do that ?
Or, alternatively, you could go back to Wiltshire Police, . . and try to change the minds of the senior Officers who advised and instructed the Police Sargeant in attendance at Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April 2023 with regard to the only appropriate and lawful action to take in the circumstances of the position in which the C&RT had put the Police by asking them to attend and assist with what The Trust knew to be an unlawful eviction from and the seizure of a privately owned boat and contents. Which is it to be ?
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Post by kris on Apr 29, 2023 11:40:21 GMT
Yes Antony what was the name and number of the police officer you spoke to?
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Post by on Apr 29, 2023 11:46:58 GMT
I know the address was 999 Letsbee Avenue.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 29, 2023 12:03:21 GMT
Leaving aside the confusion that abounds with regard to the true nature and powers of C&RT Ltd's much favoured and consistently misrepresented 'Court Orders'. The essential point being almost universally missed is that one factor on its own, on 19 April last, thwarted C&RT in its customary illegal intentions and actions for the very first time ever.
The singular first time factor that made all the difference was the senoir Police Officer attending, . . at C&RT Ltd's request, . . who, unfortunately for them, was conscientious enough, and well informed and intelligent enough, to read and most importantly, understand, the wording of the 23 January 2023 (Court) Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief, . . the one that C&RT Ltd lawyer Lucy Barry and Customer Service/Licence Support Manager Matthew Aymes were fraudulently and knowingly in contempt of Court attempting to pass off as a 'seizure power' ordering the eviction of the boat's owner from the boat and the 'seizure' of the boat itself.
This Police Sergeant's view of the true situation, and his attitude, changed markedly a short time after his arrival on scene at George Ward's boat. On arrival he announced that he didn't know any details about the situation, . . but, that come what may - " the boat HAS TO GO TODAY" - which was of course a direct reflection of the fraudulent misdirections - lies, in other words - that had been fed to Wiltshire Police by C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry, . . both world class professional liars, and two of the directing minds behind C&RT Ltd's regularly and well practised fraudulent Section 8 boat stealing scams.
Once made aware of the true situation regarding the Court Order, . . and its true nature, true powers and limitations, . . the Police Sergeant, with the full support of the senior duty Officers on that shift, refused quite rightly, to comply with C&RT Ltd's Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry's unlawful bidding. This has never happened before, . . with the Police Officers summoned to every previous one of C&RT Ltd's knowingly unlawful evicting and boat stealing parties being completely taken in by the carefully rehearsed lies they have been told.
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Post by Jim on Apr 29, 2023 12:03:28 GMT
PC Gibbon, the long arm of the law.
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