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Post by Tony Dunkley on Apr 30, 2023 18:30:21 GMT
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The sole reason for the Police refusing to join in with assisting the C&RT(Ltd) in doing its dirty work at Bradford-on-Avon on 19 April last, was that the Police had their attention drawn to the fact that, . . besides being a civil matter, and therefore not of any concern to the Police, . . the Court Order obtained on 23 January 2023 against George Ward did NOT authorise, instruct, or entitle the C&RT(Ltd) to evict the undisputed rightful owner from his boat, or to then seize and transport the said boat, absent the owner's consent but at his expense, to an undisclosed destination for subsequent sale or disposal after an unspecified period of storage, again, all at the owners expense.
This was the first occasion ever that the C&RT(Ltd) has been faced with a refusal of this sort from the Police Officers whose attendance it has expressly requested. On all previous occasions when the C&RT(Ltd) has lied to the Police over the scope and the authority of one of its much vaunted, and much misrepresented 'Court Orders', . . the Police officers from various Forces who had attended were all taken in and fooled by the well rehearsed lies that C&RT(Ltd) fed to them, . . and so were quite happy to actively assist the C&RT(Ltd) representatives present in fraudulently seizing, and ultimately stealing, whatever boat happened to be named on the Court Order being misused on that particular day. None of the above is speculation - as, no doubt Thunderboat's collective of moronic trolls will try to dismiss it as being. It is verifiable on the record fact - every word of it.
I do have copies (Enc. below) of the written advisory information that was forwarded and shown to C&RT(Ltd)'s National Customer/Licence Support Manager (sic) Matthew Aymes, Solicitor-Advocate Lucy Barry, and the Wiltshire Police Sergeant who were all in attendance on scene on the day.
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C&RT Fraud and Misuse/abuse of Court Order
By e-mail Apr 19, 2023
The Court Order C&RT have is a two part order - para 1) is a self-exalantory declaration that the C&RT are entitled to act pursuant to their statutory powers under S.8 of the BW Act 1983. They are EXCEEDING those specific statutory powers.
Paras 2) and 3) form an Injunction- that George has not complied with, and C&RT are fraudulently and in contempt of Court knowingly misrepresenting the warning (printed on the Order by the Court) re. fining, imprisonment, or having assets seized.
That warning refers to sanctions that can only be lawfully ordered by the Court that made the Injunction Order - it cannot be lawfully enforced by the party in whose favour the Injunction is made - to do so is fraud by misrepresentation and contempt of Court.
C&RT do have lawful/legitimate means to deal with problems such as George and his boats, . . but choose to go about it illegally/unlawfully by misusing and abusing other inappropriate statutory powers given to their predecessors [BWB] for an entirely different purpose.
The Police should be asked if they have had sight of a Court issued warrant of control, or any other similar document, under which the C&RT are claiming the lawful authority to evict George from his boat/home and then to 'seize' it - ie.take control of, as in the Part 3, Chapter 1 Procedure for Enforcement by Taking Control of Goods as laid down in the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007, . . or are the Police simply accepting the assurances and the word of C&RT's Lucy Barry and Matthew Aymes that the Trust has lawful authority to act as it proposes ?
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Post by on Apr 30, 2023 18:35:23 GMT
I know it is hard to deal with and you might want to sit down in a comfortable place.
It IS likely that the police would take the navigation authority in charge of the canal system more seriously than some random nutter on the internet.
Is corrie on?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 30, 2023 18:39:11 GMT
I know it is hard to deal with and you might want to sit down in a comfortable place. It IS likely that the police would take the navigation authority in charge of the canal system more seriously than some random nutter on the internet. "Canal boating expert", surely?
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Post by on Apr 30, 2023 18:40:05 GMT
Well I suppose there is that.
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Post by kris on May 1, 2023 8:39:41 GMT
I know it is hard to deal with and you might want to sit down in a comfortable place. It IS likely that the police would take the navigation authority in charge of the canal system more seriously than some random nutter on the internet. "Canal boating expert", surely? self appointed “canal boating expert ,”surely?
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Post by Jim on May 1, 2023 12:06:02 GMT
"Canal boating expert", surely? self appointed “canal boating expert ,”surely? Self appointed boatless canal boating expert surely Shirley.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on May 1, 2023 15:57:34 GMT
A few members and followers haven't yet quite fully understood how or why, given that on 23 January 2023 the C&RT Ltd had obtained one of its usual standard CPR Part 8 (Court) Orders for Declaratory & Injunctive Relief, the 19 April 2023 outcome at Bradford-on-Avon was not what they expected and so very different from every previous occasion when C&RT Ltd have been successful in fraudulently misrepresenting a Declaratory and Injunctive Relief Court Order to the Police as an Order having exactly the same effect as a Warrant of Control authorising the 'seizure' of a named boat - ie.taking control of it, as in the Part 3, Chapter 1 Procedure for Enforcement by Taking Control of Goods as laid down in the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007.
The answer is that on that day the Wiltshire Police had been advised and made aware of the lies and the con trick that C&RT(Ltd) were trying to pull on both them and the boatowner, . . so, for once - for the first time in fact - C&RT(Ltd)'s lies and dirty tricks backfired on them.
On all previous occasions C&RT(Ltd), and Brian Clarke's Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs, had always got away with lying to the Police and fooling them into believing that the standard warning the Courts print across the top of every Injunction Order - the one that says - "If you do not obey paragraphs 2) and 3) of this Order then you may be held in contemt of Court and imprisoned or fined, or your assets may be seized" - means that the Trust has Court Order that entitles it to evict a boatowner from their boat and/or home and then to seize and tow away the boat for ultimate disposal by sale or other means.
On 19 April 2023, however, Wiltshire Police were put wise to C&RT(Ltd)'s fraudulent, and in contempt of Court and statute, intentions by means ot the below e-mail, . . sent to an interested party attending the scene at Bradford-on-Avon, . . immediately after the Police were summoned by C&RT(Ltd)'s Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry with the clear intention of lying to the Police and persuading them to assist the C&RT(Ltd) in a known to be fraudulent action for the express purpose of unlawfully evicting someone from their home and dispossessing them of their boat/home and contents (goods). ____________________________________________________
C&RT Fraud and Misuse/abuse of Court Order
By e-mail Apr 19, 2023
The Court Order C&RT have is a two part order - para 1) is a self-exalantory declaration that the C&RT are entitled to act pursuant to their statutory powers under S.8 of the BW Act 1983. They are EXCEEDING those specific statutory powers.
Paras 2) and 3) form an Injunction- that George has not complied with, and C&RT are fraudulently and in contempt of Court knowingly misrepresenting the warning (printed on the Order by the Court) re. fining, imprisonment, or having assets seized.
That warning refers to sanctions that can only be lawfully ordered by the Court that made the Injunction Order - it cannot be lawfully enforced by the party in whose favour the Injunction is made - to do so is fraud by misrepresentation and contempt of Court.
C&RT do have lawful/legitimate means to deal with problems such as George and his boats, . . but choose to go about it illegally/unlawfully by misusing and abusing other inappropriate statutory powers given to their predecessors [BWB] for an entirely different purpose.
The Police should be asked if they have had sight of a Court issued warrant of control, or any other similar document, under which the C&RT are claiming the lawful authority to evict George from his boat/home and then to 'seize' it - ie.take control of, as in the Part 3, Chapter 1 Procedure for Enforcement by Taking Control of Goods as laid down in the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007, . . or are the Police simply accepting the assurances and the word of C&RT's Lucy Barry and Matthew Aymes that the Trust has lawful authority to act as it proposes ?
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Post by Murgatroyd on May 1, 2023 16:21:03 GMT
The Canal and River Trust Thunderboat Watching And Tracking Division has been made aware of the above post.
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Post by kris on May 1, 2023 16:30:53 GMT
The Canal and River Trust Thunderboat Watching And Tracking Division has been made aware of the above post. They must be well aware of it by now.
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Post by on May 1, 2023 16:48:07 GMT
all previous occasions C&RT(Ltd), and Brian Clarke's Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs, had always got away with lying to the Police and fooling them into believing that the standard warning the Courts print across the top of every Injunction Order - the one that says - "If you do not obey paragraphs 2) and 3) of this Order then you may be held in contemt of Court and imprisoned or fined, or your assets may be seized" - means that the Trust has Court Order that entitles it to evict a boatowner from their boat and/or home and then to seize and tow away the boat for ultimate disposal by sale or other means."
hic
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Post by on May 1, 2023 16:51:41 GMT
Tonights session in the Crucible looks like being a real good one.
Mark Selby v the Belgian bloke.
I like snooker but have no large screen so will have to watch it on the phone.
Selby is well behind but I think he is in the game and if he can get in amongst the balls things can change fast.
I'm debating whether to get more beer for this.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 1, 2023 17:01:51 GMT
What do you call a Russian snooker player?
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Post by on May 1, 2023 17:14:14 GMT
No idea.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 1, 2023 17:14:48 GMT
Inoff the Red.
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Post by Murgatroyd on May 1, 2023 17:15:43 GMT
It's all gone snooker loopy
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