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Post by on Jun 4, 2023 11:25:53 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 4, 2023 12:02:36 GMT
All this has happened before....and will happen again... I could cite several instances. But as previously mentioned, now 'they' have the 2023 POA so no real problem. ETA def. POA - Push Off Arseholes Trespass is now a criminal offence. Actually I think it maybe always was but now there are laws enabling the Rozzers to take immediate action without all that tedious business of applying for a court order first. As before trespass is either a civil wrong or a criminal offence, depending on the situation. I think the new laws you are thinking of are in the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022. But section 83 that makes trespass involving encampments a criminal offence requires a vehicle to be involved, primarilyaimed at travellers. (a)any vehicle, whether or not it is in a fit state for use on roads, and includes any chassis or body, with or without wheels, appearing to have formed part of such a vehicle, and any load carried by, and anything attached to, such a vehicle, and (b)a caravan as defined in section 29(1) of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960. No, it isn't, . . trespass is a wholly civil matter, . . it's NEVER a criminal offence. Trespass can form an "element" of a criminal (different) offence, . . but that isn't the same thing as being 'criminal' in itself.
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Post by kris on Jun 4, 2023 12:20:39 GMT
Oh no here we go again.
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Post by on Jun 4, 2023 12:43:20 GMT
Another thing which could be viewed as mildly interesting is that a boat is an erection.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 4, 2023 17:50:24 GMT
I've invited George Ward to come and live with me, as I feel sorry for him. That's awfully nice of you, kris.
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Post by kris on Jun 4, 2023 18:28:11 GMT
Have you been allowed on the Internet for 5 mins again? You must have been a good boy.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 3:22:06 GMT
C&RT(Ltd) or CBS Ltd - who's making the next illegal move ?
Not content with merely delegating the theft of George Ward's two boats to its preferred cowboy contractors - Commercial Boat Services Ltd [CBS] of Chester - the so-called 'wellbeing charity', the Canal & River Trust(Ltd)[C&RT(Ltd)], it appears, has now extended CBS Ltd's range of dubious contracted activities to include a very questionable form of what is known by the Courts and the legal profession as Process Serving.
Those who have followed this story since the first of the two boats - Celtic - was unlawfully seized and craned out of the Kennet & Avon canal at Bradford-on-Avon and transported away by road for storage on farmland near Chester on 19 April 2023, will be aware that the second boat - March Hare, . . the one on which George Ward lived, and was illegally evicted from by sledgehammer and crowbar armed CBS Ltd thugs immediately prior to it also being taken away, . . was illegally seized on 11 May 2023 and transported away to the same destination.
The farmland, at Greenwalls Farm, Dodleston, near Chester is owned by one Brian Clarke, a nasty little crook who works closely with C&RT(Ltd)'s Matthew Aymes and Lucy Barry, and with a number of C&RT(Ltd)'s senior management comfortably in his well lined pocket, . . and is himself the managing director of CBS Ltd. Standing more or less permanently on Brian Clarke's farmland is a sizeable, progressively changing collection of unlawfully seized - in effect, stolen - boats, by which, Brian Clarke benefits hugely from the weekly total of the storage rent that C&RT(Ltd) pay him to keep all the boats he's already been paid to steal on C&RT(Ltd)'s behalf, . . with all of them illegally inaccessible where their undisputed rightful owners can't, aren't permitted, to get anywhere near them.
Since being unlawfully deprived of his two boats on the directions/instructions of the C&RT(Ltd), one of which was his home and sole abode, George Ward has had no choice but to live and sleep in a tent, . . amongst what he has left of the personal possessions that were not stolen along with his boats and home, . . on the canal towpath at the spot where both his boats where previously moored.
It now appears that it may be the intention of the management of the so-called 'wellbeing charity', the Canal & River Trust(Ltd), to forcibly remove/evict George Ward, along with what he has left of his personal possessions and property, from where they themselves are solely responsible for putting him -- the canal towpath at Bradford-on-Avon.
At 0810 hrs yesterday morning, Monday 5 June 2023, George Ward was visited by two otherwise unidentified/unidentifiable men claiming to represent Commercial Boat Services Ltd, who, after refusing to give their names or show any form of ID, presented him with a plain brown envelope with only his name and the date handwritten on it. The envelope contained a one page unsigned undated letter, on Canal & River Trust headed paper, threatening unspecified further action if Mr Ward failed to end the alleged trespass on supposedly Canal & River Trust owned land by 5pm on 12 June 2023.
I have e-mailed Brian Clarke, MD of Commercial Boat Services Ltd, asking him to name, identify and explain his connection with the two anonymous individuals who hand delivered the letter to George Ward from the photographs we have of them, to identify the author and verify the origins of the letter, and to elaborate on the precise nature of the threatened but unspecified further action mentioned in the letter.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 3:26:38 GMT
All this has happened before....and will happen again... I could cite several instances. But as previously mentioned, now 'they' have the 2023 POA so no real problem. ETA def. POA - Push Off Arseholes Trespass is now a criminal offence. Actually I think it maybe always was but now there are laws enabling the Rozzers to take immediate action without all that tedious business of applying for a court order first. As before trespass is either a civil wrong or a criminal offence, depending on the situation. No, it isn't, . . trespass is a wholly civil matter, . . it's NEVER a criminal offence. Trespass can form an "element" of a criminal (different) offence, . . but that isn't the same thing as being 'criminal' in itself.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 7:03:23 GMT
I have e-mailed Brian Clarke, MD of Commercial Boat Services Ltd, asking him to name, identify and explain his connection with the two anonymous individuals who hand delivered the letter to George Ward from the photographs we have of them, to identify the author and verify the origins of the letter, and to elaborate on the precise nature of the threatened but unspecified further action mentioned in the letter. You've gottem this time Trespassing is usually a civil wrong and dealt with accordingly. However, in England and Wales certain forms of trespassing, generally those which involve squatters, raves and hunt saboteurs are covered by criminal law. There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 Sections 61 and 62 of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 7:20:15 GMT
I have e-mailed Brian Clarke, MD of Commercial Boat Services Ltd, asking him to name, identify and explain his connection with the two anonymous individuals who hand delivered the letter to George Ward from the photographs we have of them, to identify the author and verify the origins of the letter, and to elaborate on the precise nature of the threatened but unspecified further action mentioned in the letter. You've gottem this time Trespassing is usually a civil wrong and dealt with accordingly. However, in England and Wales certain forms of trespassing, generally those which involve squatters, raves and hunt saboteurs are covered by criminal law. There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 Sections 61 and 62 of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles. In the unlikely event of my ever being in need of advice or guidance from an arsehole such as you, . . I'll ask for it !
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 7:29:08 GMT
You've gottem this time Trespassing is usually a civil wrong and dealt with accordingly. However, in England and Wales certain forms of trespassing, generally those which involve squatters, raves and hunt saboteurs are covered by criminal law. There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 Sections 61 and 62 of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles. In the unlikely event of my ever being in need of advice or guidance from an arsehole such as you, . . I'll ask for it ! Go Johnny go go go go!
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 8:49:59 GMT
If enough people could be persuaded to not license their boats and never move then it might be possible to completely break the CRT because it would be too expensive to deal with.
You'd need thousands.
Nobody really wants to have the agro and cost of BS tickets and licences so why bother?
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 8:54:12 GMT
You've gottem this time Trespassing is usually a civil wrong and dealt with accordingly. However, in England and Wales certain forms of trespassing, generally those which involve squatters, raves and hunt saboteurs are covered by criminal law. There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 Sections 61 and 62 of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles. In the unlikely event of my ever being in need of advice or guidance from an arsehole such as you, . . I'll ask for it ! What you blatantly fail to appreciate is that you are an inconsequential nobody and an ultracrepidarian and a bankrupt. On the other hand the CRT and their chosen contractor are professional organisations. They are in charge of the situation and it is them who are making decisions about what happens to boats which are removed from their owners. It is pointless going on and on about it because you are worthless which also means your opinions and views are worthless. Deal with it. Idiot! With apologies for my brief move into the parent ego state.
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Post by Jim on Jun 6, 2023 12:08:21 GMT
Trespass! Not like it was, when I was a younger child the signs always read "Trespassers will Be Propped up and Shooted."
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 12:30:48 GMT
When I was knee high to a grasshopper we lived in a large country house (described by Country Life magazine as 'one of the lesser country houses of today') just up the road from poohsticks bridge. This was before Disney got the franchise and butchered the place.
Sign saying Tresspassers W was still there.
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