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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 6, 2023 17:35:15 GMT
No, Fartin'Martin, he hasn't, . . So Balony Tony, where was he shitting & pissing whilst he was holed up, locked inside his boat for nearly a month? "Probably going to do a Seattle-Hawes-Ribbleshead trip tomorrow, weathers looking good" Seattle to North Yorkshire all in one day, eh?
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Post by kris on Jun 6, 2023 17:56:18 GMT
Oh no your not saying your in England are you foxy.
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Post by thebfg on Jun 6, 2023 18:01:35 GMT
As before trespass is either a civil wrong or a criminal offence, depending on the situation. I think the new laws you are thinking of are in the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022. But section 83 that makes trespass involving encampments a criminal offence requires a vehicle to be involved, primarilyaimed at travellers. (a)any vehicle, whether or not it is in a fit state for use on roads, and includes any chassis or body, with or without wheels, appearing to have formed part of such a vehicle, and any load carried by, and anything attached to, such a vehicle, and (b)a caravan as defined in section 29(1) of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960. No, it isn't, . . trespass is a wholly civil matter, . . it's NEVER a criminal offence. Trespass can form an "element" of a criminal (different) offence, . . but that isn't the same thing as being 'criminal' in itself. Yes, depending on the situation. Tresspass on some airports and railway land is a criminal offence, there's nothing civil about it. There are now certain times tresspass with a vehicle is also a criminal offence. As a habitual trespasser I am pretty up to speed.
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Post by The Cat Man on Jun 6, 2023 18:03:22 GMT
He is in Seattle, USA
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Post by thebfg on Jun 6, 2023 18:04:30 GMT
Ross, will we get some American photos to look at.
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 18:06:56 GMT
No, it isn't, . . trespass is a wholly civil matter, . . it's NEVER a criminal offence. Trespass can form an "element" of a criminal (different) offence, . . but that isn't the same thing as being 'criminal' in itself. Yes, depending on the situation. Tresspass on some airports and railway land is a criminal offence, there's nothing civil about it. There are now certain times tresspass with a vehicle is also a criminal offence. As a habitual trespasser I am pretty up to speed. I'm sure the ultracrepidarian knows far more than you about everything.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 6, 2023 18:07:47 GMT
Oh no your not saying your in England are you foxy. I believe he is trying to ridicule the person quoted for making a typo in the spelling of the town name "Settle". But we all make mistakes. Some accidentally insert a rogue "a" into a town name where it does not belong, others get scammed out of their boats by dodgy boat brokers, their surveyor mates and well-positioned shills working in cahoots. Shit just happens.
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 18:08:43 GMT
If the bloke was confined to the boat for a month and had enough coal or wood and adequate baby wipes the shit can go through the fire.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 19:17:34 GMT
No, it isn't, . . trespass is a wholly civil matter, . . it's NEVER a criminal offence. Trespass can form an "element" of a criminal (different) offence, . . but that isn't the same thing as being 'criminal' in itself. Yes, depending on the situation. Tresspass on some airports and railway land is a criminal offence, there's nothing civil about it. There are now certain times tresspass with a vehicle is also a criminal offence. As a habitual trespasser I am pretty up to speed. We weren't talking about trespassing on airports and railways, were we, . . . or anything involving vehicles ! The subject is George Ward -- forced to live where and as he is doing by the illegal actions of the Canal & River Trust (Ltd) -- now being treated and threatened as a trespasser on what in truth is publicly owned land by two unidentified and unidentifiable men, claiming to represent a private limited company - Commercial Boat Services - with nothing but an undated unsigned letter on a C&RT(Ltd) letterhead in a plain handwritten envelope, making vague unspecific threats of 'further action' unless he vacates a specific area of publicly owned land that is freely open and accessible to the general public by 1700 hrs on 12 June 2023. What George Ward was being threatened about and accused of by the pair of anonymous goons masquerading process servers on the morning of 5 June 2023 is an alleged CIVIL trespass, that as a consequence of which, he was to be subject to unspecified 'further action'. We don't live in a country where that sort of behaviour is either acceptable or lawful to the public and/or population in general, . . or to the Law and the Courts in particular.
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 19:32:22 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 6, 2023 19:33:18 GMT
Yes, depending on the situation. Tresspass on some airports and railway land is a criminal offence, there's nothing civil about it. There are now certain times tresspass with a vehicle is also a criminal offence. As a habitual trespasser I am pretty up to speed. The subject is George Ward -- forced to live where and as he is doing by the illegal actions of the Canal & River Trust (Ltd) -- He's not being forced to live where he is. He has been offered no end of help and has refused it all. CRTs actions were not illegal. You may not like it but if you have a boat on the waterways then you have to have a licence for it. The sooner you get your thick paedophile head around that, the easier it will be for you.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 19:33:25 GMT
So CRT have no grounds on which to move him on?
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 19:33:44 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Jun 6, 2023 19:45:14 GMT
Timeline of potential events:
...direction to leave served
...apply to the courts for a possession order if date and time given in direction to leave has passed
...summons served on those camped on the land to attend court
...served with notice
...bailiffs carry out an eviction
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Post by on Jun 6, 2023 19:49:12 GMT
What happens if they are not allowed to do that?
I've heard theories about how they aren't allowed to take the boat but these theories are often propounded (!) by people who have found themselves without a boat having previously had a boat.
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