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Post by on Sept 21, 2023 8:45:16 GMT
If the aim is to encourage more cc ers then yes keep the winter moorings.
If the aim is to discourage then lose them.
What is the aim? I reckon it is gradual discouragement followed by eventual elimination of continuous cruising status.
Just a theory.
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Post by fi on Sept 21, 2023 8:48:16 GMT
The aim is to get as much money out of people working within the constraints that exist.
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2023 9:02:42 GMT
Put in the t&c that it has to be a 12 month mooring contract and do away with winter moorings. It makes sense for CRT to only include those who have CRT contributing moorings either direct, eog or CRT agreement marinas to be classed as having a home mooring. Anyone claiming a mooring elsewhere to be treated as a cc er for the purposes of the CRT licence. CRT need to protect and gain from their assets. You really are a buffoon at times. How can crt treat people with a mooring that isn’t crts as continuous cruiser? There are more moorings that aren’t crt than are.
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Post by fi on Sept 21, 2023 9:14:35 GMT
He did say CRT contributing moorings, which include most Marinas and EOG moorings.
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Post by on Sept 21, 2023 9:25:54 GMT
I was just pointing out perhaps rather obliquely that there will be an obvious problem of people claiming they have a mooring in some creek in Kent (which may well be true) and this would cause major admin headaches as there won't be time to check. Every CRT CONTRIBUTING mooring will be registered on a database somewhere and easily verified by machines. I, for example, have a mooring on the Thames. This contributes nothing to the CRT so if I were to use that boat on CRT water it would make sense for it to be treated as a cc er while on their water otherwise too many scams turn up. kris you didn't understand what I meant. Read it again.
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Post by on Sept 21, 2023 9:29:07 GMT
The CRT is in asset protection and profit generation mode. There is no use in allowing people to claim a mooring elsewhere. It just doesn't work..
Oh yes I have a mooring in Calais I just cross the chanel twice a yar and go boating on the Grand Union for 10 months but I do have a home mooring !
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2023 9:57:15 GMT
I was just pointing out perhaps rather obliquely that there will be an obvious problem of people claiming they have a mooring in some creek in Kent (which may well be true) and this would cause major admin headaches as there won't be time to check. Every CRT CONTRIBUTING mooring will be registered on a database somewhere and easily verified by machines. I, for example, have a mooring on the Thames. This contributes nothing to the CRT so if I were to use that boat on CRT water it would make sense for it to be treated as a cc er while on their water otherwise too many scams turn up. kris you didn't understand what I meant. Read it again. I understood what you wrote, it’s just nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 10:03:36 GMT
Put in the t&c that it has to be a 12 month mooring contract and do away with winter moorings. It makes sense for CRT to only include those who have CRT contributing moorings either direct, eog or CRT agreement marinas to be classed as having a home mooring. Anyone claiming a mooring elsewhere to be treated as a cc er for the purposes of the CRT licence. CRT need to protect and gain from their assets. Stupid idiotic reasoning.
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2023 10:05:32 GMT
If you have a mooring and can prove it ie receipts etc. Then it is fuck all to do with crt. The point is that the new policy is going to increase licence evasion, which we already know crt is incapable of policing. I think it will lead to collection of less revenue eventually. There will be an increase of boats with no name or number.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2023 10:06:33 GMT
Put in the t&c that it has to be a 12 month mooring contract and do away with winter moorings. It makes sense for CRT to only include those who have CRT contributing moorings either direct, eog or CRT agreement marinas to be classed as having a home mooring. Anyone claiming a mooring elsewhere to be treated as a cc er for the purposes of the CRT licence. CRT need to protect and gain from their assets. 12 month contracts can be cancelled, which one would if moving out if one marina and moving to find a more suitable one. 😉. Anyway, have you pondered further on the communal ownership and management of land and property while you've been sat about on the EBDP, it just needs thinking through. Put me down for Buck House, the Mall, as long as you are paying the upkeep. Cos I deserve it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 10:07:56 GMT
I was just pointing out perhaps rather obliquely that there will be an obvious problem of people claiming they have a mooring in some creek in Kent (which may well be true) and this would cause major admin headaches as there won't be time to check. Every CRT CONTRIBUTING mooring will be registered on a database somewhere and easily verified by machines. I, for example, have a mooring on the Thames. This contributes nothing to the CRT so if I were to use that boat on CRT water it would make sense for it to be treated as a cc er while on their water otherwise too many scams turn up. kris you didn't understand what I meant. Read it again. I understood what you wrote, it’s just nonsense. Yes, again. He’s just being stupid as usual.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2023 10:08:27 GMT
I was just pointing out perhaps rather obliquely that there will be an obvious problem of people claiming they have a mooring in some creek in Kent (which may well be true) and this would cause major admin headaches as there won't be time to check. Every CRT CONTRIBUTING mooring will be registered on a database somewhere and easily verified by machines. I, for example, have a mooring on the Thames. This contributes nothing to the CRT so if I were to use that boat on CRT water it would make sense for it to be treated as a cc er while on their water otherwise too many scams turn up. kris you didn't understand what I meant. Read it again. We do understand, you seem to have your neb wedged firmly up Dick's Butt.
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Post by on Sept 21, 2023 10:16:50 GMT
Put in the t&c that it has to be a 12 month mooring contract and do away with winter moorings. It makes sense for CRT to only include those who have CRT contributing moorings either direct, eog or CRT agreement marinas to be classed as having a home mooring. Anyone claiming a mooring elsewhere to be treated as a cc er for the purposes of the CRT licence. CRT need to protect and gain from their assets. 12 month contracts can be cancelled, which one would if moving out if one marina and moving to find a more suitable one. 😉. Anyway, have you pondered further on the communal ownership and management of land and property while you've been sat about on the EBDP, it just needs thinking through. Put me down for Buck House, the Mall, as long as you are paying the upkeep. Cos I deserve it. You will be judged on your merits. All that shit around the mall will be knocked down obvs!
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Post by on Sept 21, 2023 10:18:25 GMT
I was just pointing out perhaps rather obliquely that there will be an obvious problem of people claiming they have a mooring in some creek in Kent (which may well be true) and this would cause major admin headaches as there won't be time to check. Every CRT CONTRIBUTING mooring will be registered on a database somewhere and easily verified by machines. I, for example, have a mooring on the Thames. This contributes nothing to the CRT so if I were to use that boat on CRT water it would make sense for it to be treated as a cc er while on their water otherwise too many scams turn up. kris you didn't understand what I meant. Read it again. We do understand, you seem to have your neb wedged firmly up Dick's Butt. Et tu Bruté?
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Post by on Sept 21, 2023 10:19:31 GMT
If you have a mooring and can prove it ie receipts etc. Then it is fuck all to do with crt. The point is that the new policy is going to increase licence evasion, which we already know crt is incapable of policing. I think it will lead to collection of less revenue eventually. There will be an increase of boats with no name or number. I think it is quite likely to lead to employment of private enforcement contractors on canals. what you write is interesting because you appear to be assuming that licence evasion is related to finances. I'm not convinced this is the case. I have met people on boats who have jobs amd money and deliberately choose to be unlicensed because it is an option while the enforcement is lax. It is an option regardless of how much money you have. Yes there will be people who do it out of hardship but it is unwise to assume this is the only reason because it categorically isn't.
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