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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 15, 2016 7:38:09 GMT
NaughtyPeter was drunk last night and blurted out my name! Not to matter, as my cycling journals were on my Canalworld profile anyway and my name was there for all the world to see. Where does the 'Ross' come from? Here are 3 photos from our albums: goo.gl/photos/tZR11d9828xy9Nd96On the left is Margaret Ross - my grandmother's (father's mother) grandmother. Born 1843 Montrose, the daughter of David Ross (born 1803 Benholm) and Jane Norrie (born 1807 Montrose). She died in Edinburgh in 1909. She married John Alexander Millar, born 1843 Montrose, died 1903 Montrose. It says he was a boat builder on these family tree charts (-does anybody here know anything about Montrose boat builders?) There they are together in the second photo. They had 9 children, the fourth being Thomas Millar born 1871 Cellardyke. He married Janet Ker Halley in Edinburgh in 1898. He died in 1927 at Gleneagles. He was a telegraphist. In the third photo you can see Thomas Millar second from left - strange to say I look very much like him. Thomas had 4 children and incorporated the Ross into his second daughter's name - my grandmother - Margaret Ross Millar. And my parents thought it was a good idea to give me Ross as a middle name. |
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Post by peterboat on Apr 15, 2016 7:45:16 GMT
Nortypeter is sorry nortyfox he did it to confuse the easily confused which it did. Ross is a good solid Scottish name I lived there for many years some in Edinburgh castle others in a big house with 3 acres of land happy times
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 15, 2016 7:53:09 GMT
I got to know Edinburgh exceptionally well in the past 5 years - although I had no intention of doing so! I found Oban to be pleasant. Fort William and Inverness are dumps.
I wonder if anybody remembers the Bartholomew maps, scale of 1:100 000 - perfect for cycling. In 1977 I was already poring over them and planning my cycle tour round Scotland, with details of mileages and overnight accommodation stops. Never happened by bicycle, but did similar in my car 9 years ago. I should definitely like to go to Scotland again, it has that atmosphere of the wild North.
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Post by peterboat on Apr 15, 2016 7:57:53 GMT
Lovely place was there last week hot weekend for a change
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 15, 2016 7:59:21 GMT
We're probably going up to Inverness and Laxford Bridge in June. But now.... back to work (sigh!)...
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Post by rwemyss on Oct 5, 2016 7:35:03 GMT
NaughtyPeter was drunk last night and blurted out my name! Not to matter, as my cycling journals were on my Canalworld profile anyway and my name was there for all the world to see. Where does the 'Ross' come from? Here are 3 photos from our albums: goo.gl/photos/tZR11d9828xy9Nd96On the left is Margaret Ross - my grandmother's (father's mother) grandmother. Born 1843 Montrose, the daughter of David Ross (born 1803 Benholm) and Jane Norrie (born 1807 Montrose). She died in Edinburgh in 1909. She married John Alexander Millar, born 1843 Montrose, died 1903 Montrose. It says he was a boat builder on these family tree charts (-does anybody here know anything about Montrose boat builders?) There they are together in the second photo. They had 9 children, the fourth being Thomas Millar born 1871 Cellardyke. He married Janet Ker Halley in Edinburgh in 1898. He died in 1927 at Gleneagles. He was a telegraphist. In the third photo you can see Thomas Millar second from left - strange to say I look very much like him. Thomas had 4 children and incorporated the Ross into his second daughter's name - my grandmother - Margaret Ross Millar. And my parents thought it was a good idea to give me Ross as a middle name. |
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Post by rwemyss on Oct 5, 2016 7:43:20 GMT
Morning, Are you saying the family photo is of John A Millar and Margaret Ross, as is the photo of the couple?
I am researching the Boat builders of the East Neuk of Fife. John didnt build in Montrose, he intitailly built at Cellardyke, he became bankcrupt then moved his business to West Anstruther operated for a few years there before becoming bankrupt again.. he then went to work for the other major boatbuilder in Anstruther, William Jarvis as a draftsman. When Jarvis retired in 1899 Millar set up business again in Arbroath, but I can only see two boats being built there before the yard went up for sale again, The Ina Cook KY 113 for Andrew Henderson who owned the house in now live in, and the Prestige KY for Adam Reid of Cellardyke.. both 70ft fifie type sailing drifters. John was a significant fishing boat builder buiding many boats and was a driving force in safety aspects like fully decked boats, he also built one or two yachts.. It seems one of the reasons for going bust in Anstruther was his shed was destroyed in a storm.. If this is Millar I am delighted to have found a photo of him.. If ift comes to making a publication about the boatbuilders can I use this?
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 5, 2016 8:21:32 GMT
Morning to you, rwemyss! I'm off back to work in a moment, can return to this in the evening. Yes, that's John A Miller and Margaret Ross in the photos. I can dig out the family tree charts if you like, and see what else there is in that area, and I probably have more photos on my Google Photos account of their descendants. How did you end up here? Through a Google search? Welcome aboard the Thunderboat site, anyway - it can be a little strange here, but there are gems to be found if you blow away the dust  |
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Post by phil70 on Oct 5, 2016 13:16:48 GMT
Nortypeter is sorry nortyfox he did it to confuse the easily confused which it did. Ross is a good solid Scottish name I lived there for many years some in Edinburgh castle others in a big house with 3 acres of land happy times So, you spent some time in the big house hmm............ Phil |
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Post by peterboat on Oct 5, 2016 14:05:47 GMT
Nortypeter is sorry nortyfox he did it to confuse the easily confused which it did. Ross is a good solid Scottish name I lived there for many years some in Edinburgh castle others in a big house with 3 acres of land happy times So, you spent some time in the big house hmm............ Phil Oh no what have I done admitted something terrible and dark  |
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 5, 2016 14:44:11 GMT
What - in the dungeons?
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 5, 2016 16:51:13 GMT
Morning, Are you saying the family photo is of John A Millar and Margaret Ross, as is the photo of the couple? I am researching the Boat builders of the East Neuk of Fife. John didnt build in Montrose, he intitailly built at Cellardyke, he became bankcrupt then moved his business to West Anstruther operated for a few years there before becoming bankrupt again.. he then went to work for the other major boatbuilder in Anstruther, William Jarvis as a draftsman. When Jarvis retired in 1899 Millar set up business again in Arbroath, but I can only see two boats being built there before the yard went up for sale again, The Ina Cook KY 113 for Andrew Henderson who owned the house in now live in, and the Prestige KY for Adam Reid of Cellardyke.. both 70ft fifie type sailing drifters. John was a significant fishing boat builder buiding many boats and was a driving force in safety aspects like fully decked boats, he also built one or two yachts.. It seems one of the reasons for going bust in Anstruther was his shed was destroyed in a storm.. If this is Millar I am delighted to have found a photo of him.. If ift comes to making a publication about the boatbuilders can I use this? Hullo again! These photos are in an album which is now in Worcestershire, so I can't remove the photos to see if there's any writing on the backs, but I'm quite sure my information is correct. I was asked, last October, to continue our family tree investigation that was begun and ended in the 1980s by my brother and an aunt (originally started by my dad) and I have recently finished this project, although it was about my dad's father's parents' descendants, and not my dad's mother's lot. I did peek at that side though - but have never investigated it thoroughly. My 2nd-cousin Ranald may know more about the Millars, his grandmother Janet Millar being my grandmother's sister. It's much easier to see how things lie with the family tree charts spread out in front - and these I have here beside me as I write. I have made a small 'album' of 7 photos to my Google Photos account - click on the link and you'll be taken there. Clicking on the first photo makes it larger, and clicking on the i (top right) will bring up some text. You can then use the keyboard arrows to move forwards/backwards. goo.gl/photos/dpm9EA9qboX2mR6m6John Alexander Millar and his wife Margaret Ross had 9 children, and I have their details. You may certainly use any of the photos in a publication, I cannot think of any living relations who would object, but you may like me to re-examine those photos just to make sure haven't missed anything - and the next chance for me to do that could be at Christmas. I could also ask Ranald what he knows. |
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Post by rwemyss on Oct 5, 2016 17:07:08 GMT
Morning to you, rwemyss! I'm off back to work in a moment, can return to this in the evening. Yes, that's John A Miller and Margaret Ross in the photos. I can dig out the family tree charts if you like, and see what else there is in that area, and I probably have more photos on my Google Photos account of their descendants. How did you end up here? Through a Google search? Welcome aboard the Thunderboat site, anyway - it can be a little strange here, but there are gems to be found if you blow away the dust |
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Post by rwemyss on Oct 5, 2016 17:18:05 GMT
yes it was a google search, I have done searches before on John Millar and nothing much came up. It was moving into this house and I discovered Millar an unknown boatbuilder in the East Neuk and the more I looked into it I found he was a major builder. Also there is a Harry MacAnespie who is researching the family, he has been giving me some info too. do you know of him? It is brilliant to see a photo of him, I have about 17 pages of notes about him mostly extracted from the British Newspaper archive It just shows thats its good to come back to searches as sometimes something new crops up. I am researching about 20 boat builders.. so my interest is in him rather than decendants unless any of them became involved in boat building too. If you are on Facebook I have a page about the boat builders and a small abum so far of things to do with Millar. www.facebook.com/162060944140174/photos/?tab=album&album_id=162084010804534. can I post those photos? Thanks and if so who should I credit? Richard |
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 5, 2016 18:45:40 GMT
Hi Richard - It's only pure chance that I posted those photos in April - and I now see for myself that a Google search for 'John Alexander Millar Cellardyke' (or similar) comes up with this thunderboat.net thread. I'm not on Facebook but looking for the boats you name (didn't find them) I see your page, which may interest some people here: www.facebook.com/eastneukboatbuilders/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Neuk As for posting the photos, yes - as I'm the only one who has been recently active in pursuing our family tree, you could put my name as the credit - Myles Ross Turner. Yes, that Ross has been handed down from John Alexander Millar's wife (my grandmother was Margaret Ross Millar). I don't know Harry - when you say he is researching 'the family' - do you mean the Millars? I would be interested to see what you have about J.A.Millar. I don't know of any other family members who are interested, but I've just (half an hour ago) sent an e-mail to my 2nd-cousin Ranald with a copy of what you've said. I've not looked at my Millar relations as a project, there has never been reason up until now - and that reason is simply my own curiosity. You might like to stay in touch. There is a Personal Message system on this site, but I can give you one of my e-mail addresses which is tullynessleturnip@yahoo.com Tullynessle is beside Alford in Aberdeenshire, I know it well as I have extensively looked into my mother's family tree and we still have very distant relations in Tullynessle and Peterhead. Talking of sea-going ships my mother's mother's mother became 'available' for marriage again due to her husband James Cattanach being 'lost at sea' - he was the captain of a ship, the Anglo-India, which was wrecked off the coast of Formosa/Taiwan, having departed from Shanghai - I have newspaper cuttings about this. This woman, Alice Coutts, married Robert Scott Morrison of New Deer, who became the doctor for the village of Methlick; here Alice Coutts is buried together with RSM. |
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