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Post by on Feb 11, 2024 8:41:30 GMT
Maybe they monitor the forum.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 11, 2024 8:49:49 GMT
Maybe they monitor the forum. Maybe they do, but probably 90%+ of boat owners do not use internet forums. In any event, living on a boat is subjective. I live in a house, where I am on the electoral roll and the Council Tax register. The fact that I do not spend much time there is neither here nor there, no law requires me to spend a minimum amount of time at home.
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Post by on Feb 11, 2024 9:00:17 GMT
I know that but I still think the CRT have a general picture of whether Boats are lived on or not.
It doesn't mean people are there all the time. Both my Boats are residential but as they are separated by about 40 miles it is not possible for them to both be lived on all the time.
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2024 9:00:52 GMT
As ive already explained people got the energy payments for second homes so why wouldn’t you be entitled to it. Crt are receiving ever increasing amounts of licence fee money from housing benefit payments. They are aware of which boats are lived upon. There aren’t that many boats.
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Post by on Feb 11, 2024 9:04:49 GMT
I find it interesting as a subject as I have always lived on Boats sometimes on official moorings sometimes in random places without other options.
Having said that my mad sister said if I get into shit with the elf making it impossible to get into the Boats there is a room in her house so I suppose that is handy.
Living on Boats definitely interesting but yeah I suppose if you live in a house but are never there it is the ideal setup in a way.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 11, 2024 9:07:04 GMT
They are aware of which boats are lived upon. There aren’t that many boats. But how are they aware of it? CRT data checkers do not even record the direction a boat is facing, which is how I got my overstay warning at Tarleton despite having travelled over 100 miles between the two sightings. When I have been out cruising and been in close proximity to a data checker to the point of exchanging the pleasantries of the day with them, they have never asked me if I live on my boat, and appear to input nothing into their hand-held device other than the licence number.
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2024 9:12:03 GMT
They are aware of which boats are lived upon. There aren’t that many boats. But how are they aware of it? CRT data checkers do not even record the direction a boat is facing, which is how I got my overstay warning at Tarleton despite having travelled over 100 miles between the two sightings. When I have been out cruising and been in close proximity to a data checker to the point of exchanging the pleasantries of the day with them, they have never asked me if I live on my boat, and appear to input nothing into their hand-held device other than the licence number. I suggest you do a freedom of information request to crt. Get all the information they have on you and see if they’ve got a record of if you live on your boat. Then you can ask them how they have got the information.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 11, 2024 9:19:24 GMT
But how are they aware of it? CRT data checkers do not even record the direction a boat is facing, which is how I got my overstay warning at Tarleton despite having travelled over 100 miles between the two sightings. When I have been out cruising and been in close proximity to a data checker to the point of exchanging the pleasantries of the day with them, they have never asked me if I live on my boat, and appear to input nothing into their hand-held device other than the licence number. I suggest you do a freedom of information request to crt. Get all the information they have on you and see if they’ve got a record of if you live on your boat. Then you can ask them how they have got the information. I am insufficiently interested to be bothered to be honest. I will ask again though how you think CRT would gather this information.
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2024 9:22:56 GMT
I suggest you do a freedom of information request to crt. Get all the information they have on you and see if they’ve got a record of if you live on your boat. Then you can ask them how they have got the information. I am insufficiently interested to be bothered to be honest. I will ask again though how you think CRT would gather this information. Ive told you a method to find out definitively how they know, but your not interested enough? You wont believe anything I say on the subject, so there’s no point.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 11, 2024 9:28:45 GMT
I am insufficiently interested to be bothered to be honest. I will ask again though how you think CRT would gather this information. Ive told you a method to find out definitively how they know, but your not interested enough? You wont believe anything I say on the subject, so there’s no point. That's right, I don't care whether CRT know if I live in a house or on a boat. I want to know what makes you think CRT hold this information, and an FOI request will not inform me as to what your thought processes are on the subject, which is why I am asking you.
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2024 9:57:36 GMT
Ive told you a method to find out definitively how they know, but your not interested enough? You wont believe anything I say on the subject, so there’s no point. That's right, I don't care whether CRT know if I live in a house or on a boat. I want to know what makes you think CRT hold this information, and an FOI request will not inform me as to what your thought processes are on the subject, which is why I am asking you. Don’t worry about my thought processes, I wouldn’t recommend dwelling on them too much. But if you think for a min. We live in an Information age, where it pays companies to have as much information about its customers as possible. So companies gather as much data as they can, why would crt be any different? Since crt was formed how many questionnaires have they sent out to boaters? I can think of four or five at least. So you don’t fill in their questionnaires and fly under the radar, they might not have much info on you. But you can bet money that they have a good idea of how many and which boats are lived upon. The data checkers being only one source of the information. As I’ve pointed out there is a route available to find out exactly what info they have on you, if you ever become suitably interested. Although when I got the info they have on me, there was lots missing and it was obvious things had been redacted.
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Post by on Feb 11, 2024 10:09:40 GMT
Although when I got the info they have on me, there was lots missing and it was obvious things had been redacted. Did they redact the bit about ripping out hearts and eating them?
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2024 10:20:00 GMT
Although when I got the info they have on me, there was lots missing and it was obvious things had been redacted. Did they redact the bit about ripping out hearts and eating them? Yes that was one of the things that had been redacted. Their log of telephone conversations was very interesting. Admittedly it’s from seven eight years ago when I broke down on the L&L. It’s when I still thought they where a reasonable organisation ( I worked for them at the time.) so engaged in conversation on the telephone with them. I stopped that and have all corespondence in writing when I realised what they are like. Which getting the gdpr request from them has proven to be the right way of dealing with them. As their records of the conversations we had, could at best be considered to be fanciful. Plus there was a lot that either hadn’t been recorded or had been removed from their records. Their was a record of an internal conversation about me, which was boardering on libelous. Anyway I would recommend anyone to do a request under gdpr.
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Post by kris on Feb 15, 2024 12:15:36 GMT
Please sign this petition if you haven’t already.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 15, 2024 12:18:12 GMT
Please sign this petition or I will rip your heart out and eat it in front of you. Fixed that for you Kris.
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