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Post by Tony Dunkley on Feb 20, 2024 17:08:21 GMT
The Canal & River Trust DOES NOT have ANY powers, statutory or otherwise, to seize, confiscate, or otherwise deprive people of their boats, their homes, or their possessions and property. Nor does the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] have the authority or powers, under any enactment, to 'evict' anyone from their boat or home, or evict or ban anyone or anyone's boat from any inland waterway under its control.
The NBTA is, and always has, focussed on the wrong sections/parts/clauses of, mainly, the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995. Specific sanctions authorizing/empowering, and strictly limiting, the action the C&RT may take against, and the penalties it may impose on the owners of unlicensed or unregistered (no current/valid Pleasure Boat Certificate) are clearly and concisely laid down in the aforementioned legislation.
NOWHERE in the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995 is there any section, part, or clause that authorizes, empowers, or permits the seizing, confiscating, or otherwise depriving, permanently or otherwise, any boat owner of his vessel, possessions, or property. Nor is there any section, part, or clause of the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995 that authorizes, empowers, or permits the evicting of any person from any vessel, or the evicting, or removing, of any vessel from any inland waterway under the control of the C&RT.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 20, 2024 17:14:05 GMT
The Canal & River Trust DOES NOT have ANY powers, statutory or otherwise, to seize, confiscate, or otherwise deprive people of their boats, their homes, or their possessions and property. Unless they are called Halcyon Daze or Selby Michael it seems. Anyway, what does GHL have to say about it?
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 20, 2024 17:18:38 GMT
The Canal & River Trust DOES NOT have ANY powers, statutory or otherwise, to seize, confiscate, or otherwise deprive people of their boats, their homes, or their possessions and property. Nor does the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] have the authority or powers, under any enactment, to 'evict' anyone from their boat or home, or evict or ban anyone or anyone's boat from any inland waterway under its control.The NBTA is, and always has, focussed on the wrong sections/parts/clauses of, mainly, the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995. Specific sanctions authorizing/empowering, and strictly limiting, the action the C&RT may take against, and the penalties it may impose on the owners of unlicensed or unregistered (no current/valid Pleasure Boat Certificate) are clearly and concisely laid down in the aforementioned legislation.
NOWHERE in the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995 is there any section, part, or clause that authorizes, empowers, or permits the seizing, confiscating, or otherwise depriving, permanently or otherwise, any boat owner of his vessel, possessions, or property. Nor is there any section, part, or clause of the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995 that authorizes, empowers, or permits the evicting of any person from any vessel, or the evicting, or removing, of any vessel from any inland waterway under the control of the C&RT. They do have the legal power to remove boats that are not licensed, from their waters.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 20, 2024 17:27:06 GMT
The Canal & River Trust DOES NOT have ANY powers, statutory or otherwise, to seize, confiscate, or otherwise deprive people of their boats, their homes, or their possessions and property. Nor does the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] have the authority or powers, under any enactment, to 'evict' anyone from their boat or home, or evict or ban anyone or anyone's boat from any inland waterway under its control.The NBTA is, and always has, focussed on the wrong sections/parts/clauses of, mainly, the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995. Specific sanctions authorizing/empowering, and strictly limiting, the action the C&RT may take against, and the penalties it may impose on the owners of unlicensed or unregistered (no current/valid Pleasure Boat Certificate) are clearly and concisely laid down in the aforementioned legislation.
NOWHERE in the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995 is there any section, part, or clause that authorizes, empowers, or permits the seizing, confiscating, or otherwise depriving, permanently or otherwise, any boat owner of his vessel, possessions, or property. Nor is there any section, part, or clause of the British Waterways Acts of 1971, 1983, and 1995 that authorizes, empowers, or permits the evicting of any person from any vessel, or the evicting, or removing, of any vessel from any inland waterway under the control of the C&RT. They do have the legal power to remove boats that are not licensed, from their waters. As I alluded to above, you are dealing with someone here who will not accept that CRT have the legal power to remove boats even after two of his own boats were removed using those legal powers. He is clearly a mental defective and you are wasting your time trying to overturn his fallacious beliefs, his response will simply be to repeat them in the belief that if something incorrect is repeated often enough it becomes correct.
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Post by dogless on Feb 20, 2024 17:40:07 GMT
You and many others argue over words ... yet the meaning is very clearly NOT staying in or around one place cos you have a job.
As I said , disingenuous at best.
Rog
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Post by kris on Feb 20, 2024 17:46:18 GMT
You and many others argue over words ... yet the meaning is very clearly NOT staying in or around one place cos you have a job. As I said , disingenuous at best. Rog There is no arguing continuous means none stop.https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/continuous#:~:text=continuous%20adjective%20(NOT%20STOPPING)&text=without%20a%20pause%20or%20interruption,the%20road%20means%20no%20overtaking.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 20, 2024 17:58:24 GMT
The meaning of "continuous" is variable depending on how it is used. It can mean "non-stop" but it can also mean "in an unbroken pattern" and so moving a narrowboat every fortnight can be considered continuous.
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Post by dogless on Feb 20, 2024 18:13:20 GMT
Exactly.
The journey is continuous , not the travel.
Rog
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Post by Jim on Feb 20, 2024 18:15:10 GMT
Continuous journey. Not complex is it ? Staying in one place until chased off is not a continous journey. I believe many of the complaints are at best disingenuous. Rog It isnβt a continuous journey. Continuous would mean no stopping. Even crt let you stop. The fact is the wording of the act isnβt that clear unfortunately. Don't be daft, one can travel round the world in a continuous journey, stopping to eat, defecate and sleep is allowed. But travelling the same mileage back and forth on Regents Cut isn't quite the same. Not even if twirling a stick at the same time.
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Post by β on Feb 20, 2024 18:15:31 GMT
So 'reasonable in the circumstances' does not include doing work to earn money to pay for day to day essentials.
The wording of the '95 is at best pants.
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Post by Jim on Feb 20, 2024 18:17:15 GMT
So 'reasonable in the circumstances' does not include doing work to earn money to pay for day to day essentials. The wording of the '95 is at best pants. Nowt to say you can't work in one place, just that the travel may be onerous or impossible.
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Post by β on Feb 20, 2024 18:18:51 GMT
Yes but you arrr allowed to stay for in one place for any such time as is reasonable in the circumstances.
Satisfying the bored is a hard job.
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Post by kris on Feb 20, 2024 18:33:35 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 20, 2024 18:36:19 GMT
Yes but you arrr allowed to stay for in one place for any such time as is reasonable in the circumstances. Satisfying the bored is a hard job. That might include being unable to move the boat due to some medical issue but is unlikely to be because one has a job in a certain place and wishes to moor as close to it as possible in order to avoid commuting. The needs of the boater has to be balanced against the needs of all boaters. I have a job and moor in the same place for months on end so it is possible to do that, maybe just not in places where the wish to do this is massively higher.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 20, 2024 18:42:15 GMT
The Oxford Dictionary gives one meaning of "continuous" as "another word for progressive" so as I said, it does not have a rigidly fixed definition but rather depends on what activity it is referring to.
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