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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2024 20:57:02 GMT
I laugh myself sick every time I see those photos.
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Post by kris on Mar 14, 2024 21:23:39 GMT
I laugh myself sick every time I see those photos. Good job I took them then.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 16, 2024 7:13:53 GMT
I laugh myself sick every time I see those photos. Good job I took them then. With reference to your op... CRT say they are withdrawing the warning letter system and all that as of June this year. Is the chap you've mentioned the same guy you talked about in an earlier thread who hasn't moved / refuses to move / inoperable engine etc?
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2024 10:08:56 GMT
Good job I took them then. With reference to your op... CRT say they are withdrawing the warning letter system and all that as of June this year. Is the chap you've mentioned the same guy you talked about in an earlier thread who hasn't moved / refuses to move / inoperable engine etc? No it’s someone different Sherlock. You are correct though, in that we are going back to the bad old days of the first the boater knowing about it, they are under enforcement. If they are not together with challenging the case in the Acknowledgment Of Service which is to be returned to the court within the set time limit. This is where you have to challenge crts argument. Ortherwise it’s an open and shut case of not having a licence, 28 days to remove your boat etc.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 16, 2024 10:33:15 GMT
Ok Watson, thanks for your sterling efforts. BTW, every time I play the violin a dog starts howling. The game is afoot.
Scary to think you could be made homeless from start to finish in only a tad more than two or so months though. The shit is going to hit the fan in London. The only real defence will either be very deep pockets or a cast-iron cruising log. Not good.
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2024 10:54:27 GMT
Ok Watson, thanks for your sterling efforts. BTW, every time I play the violin a dog starts howling. The game is afoot. Scary to think you could be made homeless from start to finish in only a tad more than two or so months though. The shit is going to hit the fan in London. The only real defence will either be very deep pockets or a cast-iron cruising log. Not good. No it’s not good. Back to the good old days. Although judging by the numbers doing it. If take your boats name off don’t pay a licence and don’t display a number you’ll be fine. Licence evasion is on the increase massively, it would be interesting to know the figures. This cc’er surcharge is going to cause another massive increase in licence evasion. Bringing with it a raft of extra enforcement costs. Including extra scrutiny of mooring contracts to make sure people with a mooring have a mooring. So I doubt if the surcharge will actullay bring in any extra cash when it’s all added up.
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Post by dogless on Mar 16, 2024 10:58:04 GMT
On a serious note, don't you think the boat owner knows long before any involvement or consideration by C&RT, whether any enforcement action is possible or likely ?
It may be important for a boat owner to understand the steps C&RT may take, but I cannot accept that enforcement action can ever be a complete surprise ... C&RT simply aren't that efficient.
Rog
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 16, 2024 11:11:36 GMT
For sure there's going to be some low-hanging fruit for CRT to pick off. But I recall Vince reported recieving a snotty email or two on occasion. Easily fended off in his case, but what if you don't get the email and proceed straight to enforcement, which seems to be the way it's going?
I don't think there's anything unrealistic about suspecting licence evasion is going to be on the rise.
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2024 11:13:39 GMT
On a serious note, don't you think the boat owner knows long before any involvement or consideration by C&RT, whether any enforcement action is possible or likely ? It may be important for a boat owner to understand the steps C&RT may take, but I cannot accept that enforcement action can ever be a complete surprise ... C&RT simply aren't that efficient. Rog I don’t think your understanding the process. It’s going from no enforcement to being taken to court as the first step. As we all know there is no clarity in the legislation as to how far to cruise. So yes it is completely possible that someone could be happily unaware and then land in court with no warning or guidance given as what constitutes lawful behaviour.
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2024 11:14:42 GMT
For sure there's going to be some low-hanging fruit for CRT to pick off. But I recall Vince reported recieving a snotty email or two on occasion. Easily fended off in his case, but what if you don't get the email and proceed straight to enforcement, which seems to be the way it's going? I don't think there's anything unrealistic about suspecting licence evasion is going to be on the rise. It already is on the rise so will only get worse.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 16, 2024 11:19:22 GMT
I reckon the dazzle cammo paint scheme is going to get popular. 😂
I wonder how long you could get away with no licence? It must shirley involve moving a lot.
I suppose if you got smart with the days the lengthspersons do their patrols then you could skulk around at night to avoid being sighted. Sounds like much more effort than moving sufficiently often though.
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Post by kris on Mar 16, 2024 11:21:08 GMT
I reckon the dazzle cammo paint scheme is going to get popular. 😂 I wonder how long you could get away with no licence? It must shirley involve moving a lot. Mr ward did okay how long was it 5-6 years? He would probably still have his boats, if he could have moved them.
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Post by on Mar 16, 2024 11:26:15 GMT
The CRT are going to need more hardstanding and contractors if they are planning on taking more Boats.
Interesting to see how it goes in London.
If this is true then presumably the NBTA will be moaning about it.
There will be a central London residential mooring for which one can claim universal credit available shortly.
If you are eligible that is.
A better use might be a floating mosque or cultural education centre. Plenty of funding available for cultural centres.
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Post by on Mar 16, 2024 11:31:50 GMT
www.watersidemooring.com/462-andersons-wharf-l1/VacanciesOh look, how nice. Thats the former neighbour's awful Boat not something I would own. Interestingly this mooring was 22m when I originally got it but now it is 17.5m. Another one going on the end I think. It is currently £12k p.a for a 22m berth the start price is 13,745 for a 17.5m berth. Hmm. Big increase. In terms of £/sq m of Boat £130 now if someone bids then it will be £187. Income maximisation for the CRT is Good. I hope by leaving I allow them to get more money. It will probably be £18k or something ridiculous.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 16, 2024 11:46:16 GMT
I reckon the dazzle cammo paint scheme is going to get popular. 😂 I wonder how long you could get away with no licence? It must shirley involve moving a lot. Mr ward did okay how long was it 5-6 years? He would probably still have his boats, if he could have moved them. More like 10+. But it seems CRT were more receptive to mental cases claiming hardship back then. I doubt the same tolerance would be offered today.
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