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Post by dogless on Mar 28, 2024 10:25:22 GMT
A very minor dilemma, but there's a 'locked and left' boat near us, right under overhanging trees.
The householder has arranged for tree surgeons to come this morning and take the overhangs down and pollard the tree, but the boat is right in situ.
The householder spoke to us last night, asking if we knew the owner, which prompted a discussion between Jane and I.
Should we move the boat clear, or not get involved ?
The two obvious schools of thought appear to be, 1. The tree surgeons have third party insurance, let them move it or not or 2. If it were my boat I would hope someone would move it.
What do you think ?
The boat is bow on a ring and stern on a pin.
Rog
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Post by on Mar 28, 2024 10:28:55 GMT
Not your problem to solve.
Get the house owner to contact the CRT with the index number.
If you moved the Boat and it then exploded killing a load of schoolkids then you might be implicated.
You would not want that on your conscience.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 28, 2024 10:33:10 GMT
On the other hand, Rog does have proven experience of moving other people's boats.
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Post by metanoia on Mar 28, 2024 10:33:35 GMT
Commonsense and decency probably make you want to move it from potential harm. Sadly, not everyone shares those qualities and it's quite possible the boat owner could take umbrage if you touched his property.
Ten years ago I'd know what action I'd take - these days I share your dilemma.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 28, 2024 10:33:47 GMT
Personally I would do the sensible thing and move it. I suppose it's possible something could go wrong but the chances are miniscule. I guess the blame game and compensation culture have affected society to such an extent that people no longer do what's sensible.
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Post by on Mar 28, 2024 10:35:36 GMT
They may have deliberately moored it under the tree hoping the tree would fall on it and they could take the tree owner to court and get a payout for the trauma caused.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 28, 2024 10:39:10 GMT
On a more serious note, if the boat needs to be moved, get the tree surgeons to move it. Either that or advise the homeowner to reschedule their visit and arrange for CRT to place a temporary mooring prohibition on the affected section beforehand.
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Post by ianali on Mar 28, 2024 10:41:14 GMT
If It can be moved to a safe mooring within sight of its present position, and if I was staying within sight of this whilst the trees are chopped, I would move it and keep an eye on it. I wouldn’t move it if I was moving off.
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Post by dogless on Mar 28, 2024 10:45:12 GMT
We moved it this morning of course ... just clear of the work (2 or 3 boat lengths).
I did suggest last night that the householder ring C&RT who would have the licence holder details.
I was happy to move it and would hope in similar circumstances someone would shuffle ours.
Jane was concerned about getting involved and thought the tree surgeon's insurance cover was the best option.
Rog
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Post by on Mar 28, 2024 10:54:02 GMT
On a more serious note, if the boat needs to be moved, get the tree surgeons to move it. Either that or advise the homeowner to reschedule their visit and arrange for CRT to place a temporary mooring prohibition on the affected section beforehand. Yes one wonders what the protocol is for the towpath, which also belongs to the CRT. Presumably one would need to make advance arrangements rather than working above pedestrians. If they think the Boat might get damaged imagine what they could do to a woman or disabled person! It doesn't bear thinking about.
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Post by fi on Mar 28, 2024 11:03:18 GMT
On a more serious note, if the boat needs to be moved, get the tree surgeons to move it. Either that or advise the homeowner to reschedule their visit and arrange for CRT to place a temporary mooring prohibition on the affected section beforehand. Yes one wonders what the protocol is for the towpath, which also belongs to the CRT. Presumably one would need to make advance arrangements rather than working above pedestrians. If they think the Boat might get damaged imagine what they could do to a woman or disabled person! It doesn't bear thinking about. You can just ask people to hang on for a minute or two, any sensible person would comply.
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Post by dogless on Mar 28, 2024 11:23:05 GMT
To be honest I hadn't seen it as a dilemma until Jane expressed the view ... seemed simple to me to just shuffle the boat.
Anyway, the work is cracking on.
Now the next issue ... should I move it back where it was afterwards or leave it be ?
Rog
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Post by Jim on Mar 28, 2024 12:48:39 GMT
To be honest I hadn't seen it as a dilemma until Jane expressed the view ... seemed simple to me to just shuffle the boat. Anyway, the work is cracking on. Now the next issue ... should I move it back where it was afterwards or leave it be ? Rog Move it back, get the tree fellers to tie the last knots to the ring and pin.
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Post by on Mar 28, 2024 12:51:43 GMT
Why do you need tree fellers for it when two would do?
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 28, 2024 14:35:25 GMT
To be honest I hadn't seen it as a dilemma until Jane expressed the view ... seemed simple to me to just shuffle the boat. Anyway, the work is cracking on. Now the next issue ... should I move it back where it was afterwards or leave it be ? Rog Move it back, get the tree fellers to tie the last knots to the ring and pin. Oh yeah because otherwise you'll be legally responsible as per the silly mickey rule. Good grief people, it's not a big deal. If I were the boatowner I'd be glad someone looked out for me.
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