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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2024 8:01:40 GMT
Critics of Angela are slow off the mark commenting on Mark Menzies, apparently giving party funds to "bad people"who had locked him in a flat. He rang an elderly woman, a retired party agent, at 3.30am to beg for money, 6.5k , she cashed in her personal ISA to sate his greed. What on earth has he been up to, to be involved in such matters, in debt for drug habit, loose women, or whatever dodgy practices tory mps get up to? He had away with another 14k, claims it's for private medical expenses. (Mind you he wouldn't have needed that if he'd had a hand in funding the NHS properly). Party whips have been aware of the issue for months but have only just taken action, I wonder why? Https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/17/tory-mp-loses-whip-after-claims-he-used-party-funds-to-pay-bad-people |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 8:02:46 GMT
Meanwhile, Angela Rayner retains the Labour whip.
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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2024 8:14:57 GMT
Meanwhile, Angela Rayner retains the Labour whip. A rare occasion where you are correct. I wonder why she still has the support of her friends and colleagues and Menzies doesn't? So no verbose opinion on Menzies then? |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 8:22:17 GMT
Menzies, like Rayner, hasn't been convicted of anything. The difference here is that the Labour party have circled the waggons around Rayner while the Tory party have withdrawn power from Menzies, while the matter is investigated by the relevant authorities.
Which approach is preferable to you?
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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2024 8:59:02 GMT
Menzies, like Rayner, hasn't been convicted of anything. The difference here is that the Labour party have circled the waggons around Rayner while the Tory party have withdrawn power from Menzies, while the matter is investigated by the relevant authorities. Which approach is preferable to you? Yet you prattle on about Angela, I see no signs of prattle today? BTW you've overlooked the fact that Tory whips have known about the issues for a while and not dealt with it, have been secretive even. Labour have been honest and open. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 9:26:09 GMT
Menzies, like Rayner, hasn't been convicted of anything. The difference here is that the Labour party have circled the waggons around Rayner while the Tory party have withdrawn power from Menzies, while the matter is investigated by the relevant authorities. Which approach is preferable to you? Yet you prattle on about Angela, I see no signs of prattle today? BTW you've overlooked the fact that Tory whips have known about the issues for a while and not dealt with it, have been secretive even. Labour have been honest and open. Labour have protected Rayner. The Tories have effectively booted Menzies out. Which do you prefer? |
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Post by brummieboy on Apr 18, 2024 10:07:12 GMT
Menzies is an in-party dispute. He has committed no crime or evaded his tax liability. The public purse or laws have not come into the matter.
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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2024 10:36:38 GMT
So spending party donations on ones own healthcare, giving 6.5k to "bad boys" is nothing to be concerned about? I see you have your officious traffic wardens outfit on today, "move along, move along, nothing to see here".
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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2024 10:38:52 GMT
Yet you prattle on about Angela, I see no signs of prattle today? BTW you've overlooked the fact that Tory whips have known about the issues for a while and not dealt with it, have been secretive even. Labour have been honest and open. Labour have protected Rayner. The Tories have effectively booted Menzies out. Which do you prefer? Since when is cooperating with a police investigation "protecting". How long has it taken the Tories to boot him out? No doubt they've been trying to hush it up. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 10:41:41 GMT
So spending party donations on ones own healthcare, giving 6.5k to "bad boys" is nothing to be concerned about? I see you have your officious traffic wardens outfit on today, "move along, move along, nothing to see here". It's certainly something to be concerned about. You might wish people to say otherwise, but they haven't. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 10:45:06 GMT
Labour have protected Rayner. The Tories have effectively booted Menzies out. Which do you prefer? Since when is cooperating with a police investigation "protecting". How long has it taken the Tories to boot him out? No doubt they've been trying to hush it up. Protecting, for example: 'You shouldn't expect the same standards from an opposition m.p. as a serving minister' 'she wasn't an m.p. at the time of the alleged offenses' 'she's a northern girl' 'I don't need to see the expert legal advice' |
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Post by Andyberg on Apr 18, 2024 13:37:43 GMT
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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2024 13:41:12 GMT
How dare you post more evidence in here about venal Tories, many tb members think they can do no wrong and at this very minute have they eyes shut,ears blocked, singing lalalalalalala la.
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Post by Andyberg on Apr 18, 2024 13:43:52 GMT
Dishonesty and hypocrisy in MP’s are the same, whatever colour tie they wear Jim…..
Something you could try understanding!🙄
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Post by brummieboy on Apr 18, 2024 17:56:03 GMT
I see you have your officious traffic wardens outfit on today, "move along, move along, nothing to see here". It seems to work for you Jim. I grant you the whole instance seems unsavoury, but he asked and was apparently given. As Andyberg says, the political class, of any colour, seem to have a sense of entitlement when money that is not theirs is concerned. Although the door is now mostly closed, it usually meant that an MP's spouse/partner was elected alongside them with a generous salary as Office Manager or adviser. The SNP ministers private use of his computer by his children was only discovered when he failed to monitor and they racked up £ 000's. I see Tim Murrell was re-arrested today in relation to their misuse of funds, and I'm waiting for the investigation into their leader's family being relocated from Gaza. No doubt there is some investigative journalist burning the candle. At a local level, in Birmingham there is a taxi driver who was given a contract by one of his council mates who managed to buy a new taxi and a new car from the proceeds of taking 1 disabled pupil to and from school,1 1/4 miles each way, for 5 days a week during term time. Birmingham went bankrupt and is now in special measures because of such misappropriation . I dont think that there will ever be any solution to such practices whilt the cookie jar has an open lid. |
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