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Post by cuthound on Nov 10, 2016 12:17:41 GMT
Thanks for the information. Our boat is 23 years old, and only ever been blacked, but at least it's been done every two years. I guess it makes sense to stick with it now. It was last out in 2015, and looked in good order. Roger Farrington examined it and was impressed with the condition. I suppose it helps that we spend virtually no time connected to the mains. My friends 12 year old Liverpool boat by contrast, spends most of it's life 'hooked up' and was very badly pitted when it was out last year. He's now fitted a galvanic isolator (on advice) and gone to two pack. The lack of hook up, or the quality of the steel, or something seems to be working on my boat. However I have to agree with you, that with a new boat I'd go for a better quality protective coat. Rog Yes, I think it is more important to protect a hull with expensive 2 pack coatings on a boat which spends most of it's time on a shoreline than one that doesn't . DQ spent almost all of her first six and a half years on a shoreline, and had a bit over 500 hours on the engine when we bought her. She is still connected to a shoreline except when cruising, but now has 1000 hours on the engine as she approaches her 9th birthday towards the end of this month. When surveyed at six and a half years, there was no damage to the 2 pack and thus no pitting on the hull. It will be interesting to see if this is still the case when she comes out next May, as the surveyor ground off the epoxy coat in a few small places to test the hull thickness, but painted them over in cheap bitumen the blacking.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 10, 2016 16:01:36 GMT
I have a tin of Zinger left when the boat was out this year any damage was ground shiny then 2 coats of zinger 2 coats of zinger black then 3 coats of Keelblack. The keelblack is purely cosmetic although it does provide protection I suppose. I will take it out in 2 years to inspect repair scrapes etc and recoat it in Keelblack, I dont know how good it is but it is so easy to apply that I wouldnt think of going for anything else
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Post by JohnV on Nov 10, 2016 16:21:08 GMT
I have a tin of Zinger left when the boat was out this year any damage was ground shiny then 2 coats of zinger 2 coats of zinger black then 3 coats of Keelblack. The keelblack is purely cosmetic although it does provide protection I suppose. I will take it out in 2 years to inspect repair scrapes etc and recoat it in Keelblack, I dont know how good it is but it is so easy to apply that I wouldnt think of going for anything else Of course if you have plenty of access to drydocks at reasonable rates plus are young (ish) and fit (ish) being easy to apply every two years has it's attractions. If you have a fat boat or a very fat boat and access to drydocks sufficiently big and are not so young (ish) and not so fit (ish) then the choice of 2 pack and 6 or 7 years between drydocks becomes more attractive Like an awful lot of boat decisions , there is a lot of correct answers ....... all different !!!
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Post by peterboat on Nov 10, 2016 16:43:38 GMT
I have a tin of Zinger left when the boat was out this year any damage was ground shiny then 2 coats of zinger 2 coats of zinger black then 3 coats of Keelblack. The keelblack is purely cosmetic although it does provide protection I suppose. I will take it out in 2 years to inspect repair scrapes etc and recoat it in Keelblack, I dont know how good it is but it is so easy to apply that I wouldnt think of going for anything else Of course if you have plenty of access to drydocks at reasonable rates plus are young (ish) and fit (ish) being easy to apply every two years has it's attractions. If you have a fat boat or a very fat boat and access to drydocks sufficiently big and are not so young (ish) and not so fit (ish) then the choice of 2 pack and 6 or 7 years between drydocks becomes more attractive Like an awful lot of boat decisions , there is a lot of correct answers ....... all different !!! It is a problem, the zinger should do about 25 years the problem is I hit things!! also dry docking is 250 for the week so every 2 years I will take it out and do what I can, the day will come when I cant by then I hope the thickness of protection will see me out!!!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 10, 2016 17:09:56 GMT
LOL - John, I definitely don't have the nerve to even think about taking our boat out to Faversham or Medway. I refuse to let him take it down to the Houses of Parliament, which is something he'd really like to do. Call me a 'chicken shit' if you must, I'm ok with that I'd definitely recommend a trip from Limehouse to Teddington past the houses of parliament, it's a fantastic trip.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 10, 2016 17:31:47 GMT
Betty, There are drydocks on tidal/coastal waters within range of a canal boat (in good weather conditions) ...... the Tidal Thames, Medway, Faversham Creek etc Plus many many more outside my area of personal knowledge LOL - John, I definitely don't have the nerve to even think about taking our boat out to Faversham or Medway. I refuse to let him take it down to the Houses of Parliament, which is something he'd really like to do. Call me a 'chicken shit' if you must, I'm ok with that Just to add ......... the reason I suggested tidal/floating docks is that generally they have much better access to work (gritblast etc) under the hull as they are normally raised much higher. Betty, if you pick your times and the weather then the Thames estuary can be as flat as a pancake continue the big adventure 052 by mudlarker2, on Flickr QE 2 bridge by mudlarker2, on Flickr continue the big adventure 056 by mudlarker2, on Flickr continue the big adventure 062 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by bettina on Nov 10, 2016 18:47:58 GMT
OMG John, I really hate to be the one that points this out to you but...... your MAD!!! Did you not notice the size of those SHIPS off to the right hand side of your pics??? My itty bitty tiny tinny 57 x 10.10 flat bottomed boat with it's massive 40hp Barrus Shire engine would look like a small log to the captain of those vessels, and I'd fret we just don't have the power to get out of their way. chick chick chick chickeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnn = ME
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Post by JohnV on Nov 10, 2016 18:52:00 GMT
OMG John, I really hate to be the one that points this out to you but...... your MAD!!! Did you not notice the size of those SHIPS off to the right hand side of your pics??? My itty bitty tiny tinny 57 x 10.10 flat bottomed boat with it's massive 40hp Barrus Shire engine would look like a small log to the captain of those vessels, and I'd fret we just don't have the power to get out of their way. chick chick chick chickeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnn = ME Betty I was in an itty bitty 25' x 6'5" yoghurt pot !!! 087 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by peterboat on Nov 10, 2016 20:41:47 GMT
Great pictures John. On a night in the south Atlantic the depth sounder was doing no bottom, and the sky was so full of stars that you couldnt count them, the sea was so flat that there wasnt even a ripple perfik. 2 days previous we had been fighting with seas over 70 foot high not so perfik, but you cant have one without the tother
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