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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 14:45:50 GMT
I'm curious why Bridgewater canal boaters travel so fast.
Most other canals, the majority of boaters slow down passing moored craft.
Not even nearly on here.
I'm not complaining, as there's little point, I'm just curious where it comes from, and why it perpetuates.
Anybody know?
Rog
ETA Can't believe how busy it is with moving boats on here after ten weeks or so on the L&L
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 14:47:45 GMT
Is it because of license fees being so expensive that people are desperate to get off the waterway as fast as possible ?
Eta maybe not as looking it up its 7 days on a CRT license followed by £40 for another 7 days so not bad really.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 14:54:58 GMT
Is Bridgewater licence particularly expensive?
Only thing I know is you can't be licensed here without a mooring, and you can't have a mooring unless you're licensed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 14:58:56 GMT
Is Bridgewater licence particularly expensive? Only thing I know is you can't be licensed here without a mooring, and you can't have a mooring unless you're licensed. Rog No it doesn't seem to be expensive (I edited my previous post), I had it in my head there was some sort of problem with the Bridgewater but looking it up it does not seem to be a problem at all. I suppose that depends on how you use canals.
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 23, 2018 19:23:42 GMT
I think it’s just because it’s quite wide and deep. Do these speeding boats actually disturb your moored boat significantly?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 20:45:17 GMT
I think it’s just because it’s quite wide and deep. Do these speeding boats actually disturb your moored boat significantly? It's anywhere between 10-14' deep and 100'+ wide from Denver to Popes Corner on the Ely Ouse. There is no real need to knock the throttle back if you are traveling at <7mph The only reason to do it is a bit of courtesy, I more often than not will drop a couple of hundred RPM just to make the sound change - kidology works wonders as the speed reduction is probably only 0.5mph! It doesn't stop some of the slow down brigade from getting a bee in their bonnet though! By contrast we left Isleham marina after seeing larkboy for a brew and there was no way you could pass the boats upstream of the lock at anything more than a snail's pace - out of the question due to it being too shallow and full of blanket weed, no issue for me, swings and roundabouts and it all evens out in the end. If I were on the Bridgewater I'd pin it too 🚢👍🍻
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 20:58:01 GMT
I did say it wasn't a complaint.
I was enquiring if anyone knew why the usual courtesies do not seem to apply on the Bridgewater.
Whilst travelling the long straight passing the Sale Flying Club.....sorry Sale Cruising Club, we were overtaken by another narrow boat, who despite being a Bridgewater resident, had no intention of slowing down at all whilst passing his moored neighbours.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 21:16:11 GMT
I did say it wasn't a complaint. I was enquiring if anyone knew why the usual courtesies do not seem to apply on the Bridgewater. Whilst travelling the long straight passing the Sale Flying Club.....sorry Sale Cruising Club, we were overtaken by another narrow boat, who despite being a Bridgewater resident, had no intention of slowing down at all whilst passing his moored neighbours. Rog So; for future reference - take a leaf out of the late great Colin McRae's book:- If in doubt, flat out 👍🍻
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Post by larkboy on Jun 24, 2018 18:12:25 GMT
I think it’s just because it’s quite wide and deep. Do these speeding boats actually disturb your moored boat significantly? It's anywhere between 10-14' deep and 100'+ wide from Denver to Popes Corner on the Ely Ouse. There is no real need to knock the throttle back if you are traveling at <7mph The only reason to do it is a bit of courtesy, I more often than not will drop a couple of hundred RPM just to make the sound change - kidology works wonders as the speed reduction is probably only 0.5mph! It doesn't stop some of the slow down brigade from getting a bee in their bonnet though! By contrast we left Isleham marina after seeing larkboy for a brew and there was no way you could pass the boats upstream of the lock at anything more than a snail's pace - out of the question due to it being too shallow and full of blanket weed, no issue for me, swings and roundabouts and it all evens out in the end. If I were on the Bridgewater I'd pin it too 🚢👍🍻 And very good it was to catch up with Gazza and family. Always good to have a chinwag and a brew with good people....🙂
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Post by JohnV on Jun 24, 2018 18:17:37 GMT
It's anywhere between 10-14' deep and 100'+ wide from Denver to Popes Corner on the Ely Ouse. There is no real need to knock the throttle back if you are traveling at <7mph The only reason to do it is a bit of courtesy, I more often than not will drop a couple of hundred RPM just to make the sound change - kidology works wonders as the speed reduction is probably only 0.5mph! It doesn't stop some of the slow down brigade from getting a bee in their bonnet though! By contrast we left Isleham marina after seeing larkboy for a brew and there was no way you could pass the boats upstream of the lock at anything more than a snail's pace - out of the question due to it being too shallow and full of blanket weed, no issue for me, swings and roundabouts and it all evens out in the end. If I were on the Bridgewater I'd pin it too 🚢👍🍻 And very good it was to catch up with Gazza and family. Always good to have a chinwag and a brew with good people....🙂 Huh !!! I'm sure it is ......... but he kept avoiding me when I was on the Ouse and the Lark ........ and when I was coastal, he did the same...... even sent mouse to see me as a deputy !!! (Mind you had a very pleasant evening with mouse ..... a grand chap )
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 18:37:00 GMT
And very good it was to catch up with Gazza and family. Always good to have a chinwag and a brew with good people....🙂 Huh !!! I'm sure it is ......... but he kept avoiding me when I was on the Ouse and the Lark ........ and when I was coastal, he did the same...... even sent mouse to see me as a deputy !!! (Mind you had a very pleasant evening with mouse ..... a grand chap ) We are hoping to have a big day out on the train September time and come up your way 🚢🍻👍
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Post by larkboy on Jun 24, 2018 19:47:29 GMT
And very good it was to catch up with Gazza and family. Always good to have a chinwag and a brew with good people....🙂 Huh !!! I'm sure it is ......... but he kept avoiding me when I was on the Ouse and the Lark ........ and when I was coastal, he did the same...... even sent mouse to see me as a deputy !!! (Mind you had a very pleasant evening with mouse ..... a grand chap ) He did mention missing you at Jude's Ferry. Said you turned up shortly after he left... Like ships passing in the night..😉
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 25, 2018 7:54:41 GMT
I did say it wasn't a complaint. I was enquiring if anyone knew why the usual courtesies do not seem to apply on the Bridgewater. Whilst travelling the long straight passing the Sale Flying Club.....sorry Sale Cruising Club, we were overtaken by another narrow boat, who despite being a Bridgewater resident, had no intention of slowing down at all whilst passing his moored neighbours. Rog The purpose of the “courtesy” surely is to avoid disturbing the moored boat with water movement? It is not just to slow down for the sake of it, eg to show respect. So if the waterway is wide and deep enough such that passage at normal cruise speed doesn’t disturb moored boats, it isn’t discourteous to do so. We always slow to idle passing boats on the midlands canals. But it’s taken me years to get Jeff to understand that he doesn’t need to do the same on the Severn, Tixall wide, the Thames etc. I just say “look at the moored boats, are they getting moved at all by our passage” and of course they aren’t.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 8:10:55 GMT
It must be some years since you've been up here if you think it's as wide as the Severn or Thames. Thanks for the explanation, but of course I understand the purpose of the courtesy. What I cannot grasp is why it is uniformly ignored on this waterway alone. I wondered if there were historic reasons, but it seems perhaps the residents like you, have just given up and travel to suit themselves. It strikes me as being strange, because all the 'slow down for moored boats' signs are about. The only boats that consistently slow down are the wide beams....oh of course and myself, but that's so I can enjoy a good neb Rog
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Post by thebfg on Jun 25, 2018 10:12:12 GMT
I must admit we put the hammer down on the Bridgewater on the wide parts.
we did slow down of course as some bits are not so wide.
but we were in a hire boat so speeding is expected.😁
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