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Post by Telemachus on Aug 20, 2018 22:01:56 GMT
To be fair to Rob his reply of "it really isn't" can also be read as a 'cor blimey' reply? ... having also suffered from the wallet munchers, I got it. You did leap at him rather quickly, perhaps because it was very similar to many of his soap box responses. Well yes. “It really isn’t” I took to mean “it really isn’t, having a young family is a constant battle against the fascist capitalist oppressors enslaving the working population” etc. but anyway, even if I misinterpreted his 3 word reply, was it really necessary to give me the “I don’t like you” treatment? Nasty. That’s what gets me about such people, they are desperate to tell us how wonderful they are and are quite happy to despise people on a whim, just to reinforce that point. For the avoidance of doubt, he is an obnoxious virtue-signalling tosser.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 20, 2018 22:08:11 GMT
Anyway, it got me a greenie from Martin, which is a rarity!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 22:10:28 GMT
No as I also said on the thread, once you’ve got to where we are, it’s hard to know how to escape. Of course the best solution would be to not have got there in the first place, but hindsight is a useless thing in this context. But we have got where we are. And technology is likely to make these issues worse (in my opinion). We delegate much of life to political parties, which party is most likely to resolve the problem and why? Off to bed now so a rhetorical question for me.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 20, 2018 22:19:50 GMT
No as I also said on the thread, once you’ve got to where we are, it’s hard to know how to escape. Of course the best solution would be to not have got there in the first place, but hindsight is a useless thing in this context. But we have got where we are. And technology is likely to make these issues worse (in my opinion). We delegate much of life to political parties, which party is most likely to resolve the problem and why? Off to bed now so a rhetorical question for me. I’m not sure that technology is likely to make this particular issue worse. The bottom line is that the previous distinction between working, and being on the dole, is now totally blurred. If there were no in-work benefits, more folk would (initially) be on the dole because they couldn’t afford to work. There would then be a shortage of workers and supply and demand would mean wages would have to rise. Or to put it another way, we are where we are because successive governments have striven to reduce headline unemployment figures regardless of the long term effects. No current party is likely to be able to fix it, they are all too obsessed with their “image”. Which is a fundamental problem with democracy.
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Post by patty on Aug 21, 2018 5:18:58 GMT
But we have got where we are. And technology is likely to make these issues worse (in my opinion). We delegate much of life to political parties, which party is most likely to resolve the problem and why? Off to bed now so a rhetorical question for me. Or to put it another way, we are where we are because successive governments have striven to reduce headline unemployment figures regardless of the long term effects. No current party is likely to be able to fix it, they are all too obsessed with their “image”. Which is a fundamental problem with democracy. I agree.. My middle son is one of those who cannot escape the poverty trap despite 'hand outs' from me and his dad..his partner works crazy hours with minimal pay, he's abut to try and get back into Amazon following a difficult year ..their son's care will be juggled between them, nursery(I finance that to ensure the child has some interaction with other children) and me. They've worked out they'll still be earning less than minimum living wage...I cannot subsidise any more of their life. There are many struggling in low paid jobs yet consumers demand ever cheaper goods...most people shop on the net to get stuff at the lowest price.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 21, 2018 5:43:47 GMT
Anyway, it got me a greenie from Martin, which is a rarity! I find that ironic ....... in a wrangle with Rob ...... I think it was over racism he asked me one of his favourite posting tricks, a loaded question. I replied with the traditional one of "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" Rob knew exactly what I meant and sensibly re-phrased ...... this all went quite over Martins head and he exploded in a flurry of abuse about bringing people's family into the argument ........ this was pre the acquisition of censorious dementors as mods who would also have been too thick to understand. reminds me of a technical point when I used the term "KISS principle" I then had to explain what the acronym stood for ..... only then to be accused of insulting people by calling them stupid ....... sometimes over there I despaired
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Post by bills on Aug 21, 2018 8:44:13 GMT
Anyway, it got me a greenie from Martin, Isn't that a bit like getting a French kiss from your granny?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2018 15:56:28 GMT
Is this 'on topic'? " A brewery has agreed to stop selling its cider product 'Suicider' at a festival after a Samaritans volunteer found it 'insensitive'. " "Tim Chichester from Wiscombe Cider said in 40 years Mr Hillier's complaint was the first he has had about the drink's name." "Mr Hillier said although a 'play on words' the name did not sit well with him because of his volunteer work with the Samaritans." www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6082537/Brewery-agrees-stop-selling-Suicider-drink-festival-Samaritan-volunteer-complaint.html"I wanted the brewery to stop selling Bishops Finger as it brought back bad memories of when I was a choirboy."
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2018 16:03:42 GMT
"A gin distillery based in Bristol, England, has apologized after naming its new vodka offering after the toxic nerve agent Novichok" "Bristol Dry Gin, which produces the Novichok Edition vodka, has stated that it never meant to offend with the name of its 75-proof vodka, but rather to “lighten the mood.” " “The poor people that have suffered,” a Facebook user wrote under a post about the vodka. “The town that has suffered and its people. I can't believe you want to make money out of it. Please rename this into something appropriate. Have a rethink how people out there feel about it.” I think we can see how the people "out there" felt about it: "some social media users seemed interested in obtaining bottles, and Bristol Dry Gin confirmed in its statement that the limited-edition Novichok Edition vodka sold out within “hours” of its release." "“The Novichok Edition is a limited edition, which sold out within […] hours of being released, and we currently have no plans to produce any more, despite the flood on inquiries,” the company wrote." www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/07/10/liquor-company-slammed-for-releasing-novichok-vodka-named-after-deadly-nerve-agent.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 16:05:40 GMT
Is this 'on topic'? " A brewery has agreed to stop selling its cider product 'Suicider' at a festival after a Samaritans volunteer found it 'insensitive'. " "Tim Chichester from Wiscombe Cider said in 40 years Mr Hillier's complaint was the first he has had about the drink's name." "Mr Hillier said although a 'play on words' the name did not sit well with him because of his volunteer work with the Samaritans." www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6082537/Brewery-agrees-stop-selling-Suicider-drink-festival-Samaritan-volunteer-complaint.html"I wanted the brewery to stop selling Bishops Finger as it brought back bad memories of when I was a choirboy." There is nothing wrong with expressing an opinion, for or against. I don't like spastic/mong/retard because I have a long family history connected (mainly through the special olympics) to people who these terms affect the most. I try to be careful that my comments don't impinge on free speech but at the end of the day I'm entitled to think/comment what I want to (within legal boundaries) - if that persuades others to adjust their behaviour then so what.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 21, 2018 16:07:13 GMT
the correct reply to all these type of things is ..... "Grow up" eta this was a reply to Ross by the way ...... I don't like the use of derogatory generalisms but I only respond if I find them offensive personally. I don't see it as my right to object for anyone else.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2018 16:11:32 GMT
DALEKS
"When i was a kid I was always safe in the knowledge that if they really invaded earth I’d always be able to escape their evil intentions and their desire to ‘exterminate’ anything that threatened them or they didn’t like by simply running up the stairs.
How wrong could I have been.
Yesterday I turned on the telly and can you believe it, right in front of me was what I must assume is the latest generation Dalek.
I was reminded of the Terminator 1 and 2 films and how the next generation was much more human like than its predecessor, T2 could experience pain and had ‘feelings’.
Daleks have indeed come a long way. The T2 Dalek I watched was so advanced it could actually feel offended and victimised and has actually gone as far as reporting a politician for a hate crime."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 16:11:48 GMT
the correct reply to all these type of things is ..... "Grow up" TRy telling that to many of the people taking part in the special olympics and you would get a robust response!
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2018 16:12:51 GMT
Painting the inside of narrowboat water tanks could be an Olympic Sport for dwarves.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 16:13:21 GMT
Anyway, it got me a greenie from Martin, Isn't that a bit like getting a French kiss from your granny? Now that IS an image that'll take some shifting. By the way folks, don't forget that many of them twitch their curtains for a peek here. Don't want anyone saying something they'll feel "like really down about man" Rog
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