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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:25:33 GMT
I think Underwood has described you, and many other selfish London (freeloaders) boaters down to a tee . But missed describing people like you who divide boaters as cunts. You've either forgotten to take a tablet, or failed to wash your mouth out this morning?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:29:02 GMT
One thing I would say is that if any organisation is formed to counter the negative side of current waterways management it needs to consist of people who are able to accept that others have different opinions. Shouting people down with abuse is a weak strategy. Arguing your point is a strong one
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Post by NigelMoore on Nov 24, 2018 18:29:28 GMT
what do you think we would need to achieve in order to manoeuvre into a position where such a change would be possible? What would be needed is precisely what we do not have (as Mr Underwood has discovered) – a statistically significant number of people concerned about boating waterways, who are prepared to contribute both individually and collectively, to informing government bodies and MP's of the relevant concerns and proposals. It takes numbers; it takes persistence, and it takes correct targetting. Bear in mind that CaRT (as doubtless do other navigation authorities) employs specialised firms to schmaltz politicians behind the benches on a permanent, regular basis – it works. Educate the law-givers and controllers, arouse their sympathies and get them to identify your cause with their own agendas, and you are in with a chance to help engineer change – but the politicians have to see that the numbers stack up, in order to make it worth their while. That is not mere cynicism either – they are there to represent a majority, even if protecting minorities is part of that. Part of the numbers game would comprise interesting the wider community of interests in canals, whether they are boaters or not. Some of the greatest strides in waterways protections of the past have come about via pressure from a wide variety of interest groups; the more common cause that can be made evident, the more effective the unifying call to arms. At the moment, only CaRT are utilising this tactic, however banal and vacuous their approach.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:30:55 GMT
One thing I would say is that if any organisation is formed to counter the negative side of current waterways management it needs to consist of people who are able to accept that others have different opinions. Shouting people down with abuse is a weak strategy. Arguing your point is a strong one Says he who once came on here and announced I had fucked up ccing for boaters. You hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:31:47 GMT
God's teeth!
We have to start talking with these damn cyclists !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:32:50 GMT
But missed describing people like you who divide boaters as cunts. You've either forgotten to take a tablet, or failed to wash your mouth out this morning? Wanted to call you a twat but not enough for here so I stand by what I said. You might do well for some but you still divide boaters to the detriment of the overall situation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:36:06 GMT
You've either forgotten to take a tablet, or failed to wash your mouth out this morning? Wanted to call you a twat but not enough for here so I stand by what I said. You might do well for some but you still divide boaters to the detriment of the overall situation. Whatever you said was cancelled out by your use of the c word. Therefore, irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:37:41 GMT
One thing I would say is that if any organisation is formed to counter the negative side of current waterways management it needs to consist of people who are able to accept that others have different opinions. Shouting people down with abuse is a weak strategy. Arguing your point is a strong one Says he who once came on here and announced I had fucked up ccing for boaters. You hypocrite. No. Hypocrite is the wrong word. I have never had any influence or been part of any organisation or club in my lifetime. I became aware, due to my internet forum activity, that you had at some stage been involved in some sort of continuous cruiser association type organisation. It appeared that this resulted in other members of the organisation disappearing and you were left as the only person there. I formed the opinion that perhaps your interaction with others in the group caused some sort of issues. I don't know if this is true as I say its only from forums and I know forums are full of bullshit anyway. I work for MI6. Anyway to cut a long story short what the hell are you on about accusing me of being some sort of freeloader ? Do you know who I am ? I'm a VIP ffs
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:38:39 GMT
Wanted to call you a twat but not enough for here so I stand by what I said. You might do well for some but you still divide boaters to the detriment of the overall situation. Whatever you said was cancelled out by your use of the c word. Therefore, irrelevant. Unmoderated forum old chap as in no moderators
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:40:25 GMT
Wanted to call you a twat but not enough for here so I stand by what I said. You might do well for some but you still divide boaters to the detriment of the overall situation. Whatever you said was cancelled out by your use of the c word. Therefore, irrelevant. You would make a good Mod for CWDF
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:41:56 GMT
Whatever you said was cancelled out by your use of the c word. Therefore, irrelevant. Unmoderated forum old chap as in no moderators Self moderated actually. The use of such a word on a forum I think you will find, is frowned upon, and merely cancels out the point the person was making rather, well, pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:49:11 GMT
Unmoderated forum old chap as in no moderators Self moderated actually. The use of such a word on a forum I think you will find, is frowned upon, and merely cancels out the point the person was making rather, well, pointless. No its also peer moderated Anyway answer the fucking question what is it you have a problem with specifically ? Nigel is notably anti crt but he never throws abuse at me (maybe he should try it) so I have some difficulty with understanding your particular targeting method. Maybe we need to meet for some beverages and discuss things then you might work out that I'm OK Lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:49:26 GMT
Whatever you said was cancelled out by your use of the c word. Therefore, irrelevant. You would make a good Mod for CWDF (rolls eyes)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:50:35 GMT
Unmoderated forum old chap as in no moderators Self moderated actually. The use of such a word on a forum I think you will find, is frowned upon, and merely cancels out the point the person was making rather, well, pointless. Take note of Nigel Moore's comment above. Occasionally nasty words are needed to help convey the message. By all means ignore me but at least listen to Nigel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 18:54:22 GMT
Self moderated actually. The use of such a word on a forum I think you will find, is frowned upon, and merely cancels out the point the person was making rather, well, pointless. Maybe we need to meet for some beverages and discuss things then you might work out that I'm OK Lol That's really funny. I spent the best part of winter 2017 trying to meet up with you, in order to pass on a strimmer for patty. You spent the best part of winter 2017 trying to keep out of my way.
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