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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 8:23:21 GMT
My opinion on this is it's getting really stupid. I'm glad I don't have young kids at school in this day and age.
Why does this have to be even thought of when assessing the educational requirements for a five year old?
Totally ridiculous and selfish behaviour from the LGBT fanatics.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 20, 2019 8:33:53 GMT
My opinion on this is it's getting really stupid. I'm glad I don't have young kids at school in this day and age. Why does this have to be even thought of when assessing the educational requirements for a five year old? Totally ridiculous and selfish behaviour from the LGBT fanatics. I think you are exaggerating when you are specifically highlighting LGBT issues. The lessons are broad, about accepting different people of different colours, races, religions genders and yes, sexual orientations. Why confuse small kids by pretending that families are all comprised of mummy and daddy, that all princesses want a handsome prince to kiss etc. And then, when you have drummed heterosexuality into the core of their being, suddenly at some later stage say “Oh no, well actually there are benders too!” Very confusing. When you are 5 and told that sometimes people shack up with people of the same sex, it is just all part of learning about the big wide world, they are not “horrified, shocked and outraged”, just accepting. It is only middle aged blokes who are shocked, horrified, outraged and hate-filled by the concept of homosexuality. And that is because in their formative years, their minds were narrowed by heterosexuality being drummed into them as being the only option. Anyway, do we really want to pander to Muslims whose minds are still residing in the 6th century and who as part of their ideology, hate and want to kill anyone slightly different from them? If they don’t like the British values taught in UK schools I suggest they go live somewhere else where their bigoted ideas are more acceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 8:41:19 GMT
My opinion on this is it's getting really stupid. I'm glad I don't have young kids at school in this day and age. Why does this have to be even thought of when assessing the educational requirements for a five year old? Totally ridiculous and selfish behaviour from the LGBT fanatics. I think you are exaggerating when you are specifically highlighting LGBT issues. The lessons are broad, about accepting different people of different colours, races, religions genders and yes, sexual orientations. Why confuse small kids by pretending that families are all comprised of mummy and daddy, that all princesses want a handsome prince to kiss etc. And then, when you have drummed heterosexuality into the core of their being, suddenly at some later stage say “Oh no, well actually there are benders too!” Very confusing. When you are 5 and told that sometimes people shack up with people of the same sex, it is just all part of learning about the big wide world, they are not “horrified, shocked and outraged”, just accepting. It is only middle aged blokes who are shocked, horrified, outraged and hate-filled by the concept of homosexuality. And that is because in their formative years, their minds were narrowed by heterosexuality being drummed into them as being the only option. Anyway, do we really want to pander to Muslims whose minds are still residing in the 6th century and who as part of their ideology, hate and want to kill anyone slightly different from them? If they don’t like the British values taught in UK schools I suggest they go live somewhere else where their bigoted ideas are more acceptable. I'm not exaggerating. Moving on, and ignoring that silly comment, kids as young as five years old are having this brought into their lessons. In my own view, it's not something a five year old needs to be specifically taught. Fair enough once reaching their teens. It seems to me that LGBT (who are the main instigators of this policy) want to rob adolescents of their innocence. Very selfish. By the way, if it were not for mummy and daddy, five year old wouldn't exist. LGBT might be able to bend things, but they have yet to magic a kid from nowhere 😂 Although there are rumours of the womb being part of organ transplants. Food for thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 8:48:45 GMT
The first time the woman mentioned to our kids when they were really little (3 and 5 I think they were) that her friend Richard was getting married to his boyfriend Philip it did cause some confusion but now they just see it as normal.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 20, 2019 8:52:30 GMT
My opinion on this is it's getting really stupid. I'm glad I don't have young kids at school in this day and age. Why does this have to be even thought of when assessing the educational requirements for a five year old? Totally ridiculous and selfish behaviour from the LGBT fanatics. Anyway, do we really want to pander to Muslims whose minds are still residing in the 6th century and who as part of their ideology, hate and want to kill anyone slightly different from them? If they don’t like the British values taught in UK schools I suggest they go live somewhere else where their bigoted ideas are more acceptable. Herein lies the paradox. Are Muslims homophobic, or are the LGBT community racist? When two minority groups have completely opposite positions on something, which minority group should have its views respected and which should be ignored? |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 20, 2019 9:00:07 GMT
Indeed. The other one that's brewing nicely at the moment is LGBT or more specifically, the 'T' element vs feminism. Both ideas are categorised as 'progressive' and therefore, obviously, 'good', but what happens when 2 things that are 'good' have diametrically opposed ideas and objectives?
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 20, 2019 9:01:35 GMT
I think you are exaggerating when you are specifically highlighting LGBT issues. The lessons are broad, about accepting different people of different colours, races, religions genders and yes, sexual orientations. Why confuse small kids by pretending that families are all comprised of mummy and daddy, that all princesses want a handsome prince to kiss etc. And then, when you have drummed heterosexuality into the core of their being, suddenly at some later stage say “Oh no, well actually there are benders too!” Very confusing. When you are 5 and told that sometimes people shack up with people of the same sex, it is just all part of learning about the big wide world, they are not “horrified, shocked and outraged”, just accepting. It is only middle aged blokes who are shocked, horrified, outraged and hate-filled by the concept of homosexuality. And that is because in their formative years, their minds were narrowed by heterosexuality being drummed into them as being the only option. Anyway, do we really want to pander to Muslims whose minds are still residing in the 6th century and who as part of their ideology, hate and want to kill anyone slightly different from them? If they don’t like the British values taught in UK schools I suggest they go live somewhere else where their bigoted ideas are more acceptable. I'm not exaggerating. Moving on, and ignoring that silly comment, kids as young as five years old are having this brought into their lessons. In my own view, it's not something a five year old needs to be specifically taught. Fair enough once reaching their teens. It seems to me that LGBT (who are the main instigators of this policy) want to rob adolescents of their innocence. Very selfish. If kids didn’t have heterosexuality drummed into them from birth then I could agree with you. But they do, it is all around them. There is no point in hiding from them the fact that some people are homosexual, and that is quite normal. There is nothing “innocent” about knowing that people get together as heterosexual couples whilst being unaware that the sometimes they are homosexual couples. It is only in your eyes that homosexuality is something filthy, unnatural and disgusting that should be kept from children to protect their innocence. |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 20, 2019 9:04:54 GMT
Anyway, do we really want to pander to Muslims whose minds are still residing in the 6th century and who as part of their ideology, hate and want to kill anyone slightly different from them? If they don’t like the British values taught in UK schools I suggest they go live somewhere else where their bigoted ideas are more acceptable. Herein lies the paradox. Are Muslims homophobic, or are the LGBT community racist? When two minority groups have completely opposite positions on something, which minority group should have its views respected and which should be ignored? Some muslims are homophobic by one strict interpretation of their religion. LGBT community are not racist, but they do dislike those Muslims who are homophobic. But since there are plenty of Muslims who are not homophobic, including plenty who are LGBT, it follows that the beef is against homophobia not against Muslims. |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 20, 2019 9:06:45 GMT
Indeed. The other one that's brewing nicely at the moment is LGBT or more specifically, the 'T' element vs feminism. Both ideas are categorised as 'progressive' and therefore, obviously, 'good', but what happens when 2 things that are 'good' have diametrically opposed ideas and objectives? I am neither T nor a feminist, however I do side with the Ts in this argument. The whole concept of these radical feminists is to seek power and influence for women over and above that of men. They do not want to be equal, they want to dominate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 9:11:25 GMT
I'm not exaggerating. Moving on, and ignoring that silly comment, kids as young as five years old are having this brought into their lessons. In my own view, it's not something a five year old needs to be specifically taught. Fair enough once reaching their teens. It seems to me that LGBT (who are the main instigators of this policy) want to rob adolescents of their innocence. Very selfish. If kids didn’t have heterosexuality drummed into them from birth then I could agree with you. Without heterosexuality, you wouldn't even be here, careful how far you push this. You might well believe same sex couples are normal, but in my mind that is just a statement intended to invite controversy. Myself, I don't see same sex marriage etc as normal, not because I'm a middle aged bloke who in your reckoning shouldn't be allowed an opinion, but because they cannot reproduce. Man+woman, reproduction. Anyway, you're not convincing me that a five year old needs to be taught about sex, let alone gay sex. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 9:15:02 GMT
Indeed. The other one that's brewing nicely at the moment is LGBT or more specifically, the 'T' element vs feminism. Both ideas are categorised as 'progressive' and therefore, obviously, 'good', but what happens when 2 things that are 'good' have diametrically opposed ideas and objectives? They do not want to be equal, they want to dominate. They can't be equal ffs. A t can't carry a child 😂 See, this is where it gets really stupid, and shows the extremes some will go to in order to justify their own selfishness. |
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Post by rich on Mar 20, 2019 9:17:08 GMT
The whole LGBT thing is getting a totally disproportionate amount of coverage/attention. Heterosexual relationships are by a huge proportion the most common in society but everyone is talking about the alternatives. Many TV shows feature LGBT relationships because it is fashionable to do so.
What's wrong with identifying the most common model is forming a stable heterosexual relationship within which to give birth to, and raise a family.
I know it's not a popular view but I feel a lot of problems in our society are partly down to the breakdown of traditional family values. I do believe a child should grow up in a stable, loving family environment - ideally with strong male and female role models.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 20, 2019 9:19:33 GMT
If kids didn’t have heterosexuality drummed into them from birth then I could agree with you. Without heterosexuality, you wouldn't even be here, careful how far you push this. You might well believe same sex couples are normal, but in my mind that is just a statement intended to invite controversy. Myself, I don't see same sex marriage etc as normal, not because I'm a middle aged bloke who in your reckoning shouldn't be allowed an opinion, but because they cannot reproduce. Man+woman, reproduction. Anyway, you're not convincing me that a five year old needs to be taught about sex, let alone gay sex. I do believe same sex couples are normal. Well they have existed throughout history, so how can they not be normal? Albeit there are fewer such people than heterosexuals. But it is like saying “brown hair is normal, red hair is not normal” just because fewer people have red hair than brown hair. Would you deny to children that some people had red hair as a consequence? Since when has marriage been about reproducing? You can reproduce with marriage, and you can be married without reproduction. In your ideal world, would you deny infertile heterosexual couples the right to marry? In you last sentence you are sensationalising, or have allowed yourself to be sensationalised by the gutter press. These 5 year olds are not being taught about sex or gay sex. It is simply being explained to them that sometimes a man and a woman get together to form a relationship, and sometimes it can be a man and a man or a woman and a woman. Which hole you stick which bits into doesn’t enter into it. |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 20, 2019 9:20:57 GMT
They do not want to be equal, they want to dominate. They can't be equal ffs. A t can't carry a child 😂 See, this is where it gets really stupid, and shows the extremes some will go to in order to justify their own selfishness. You miss my point which is that feminists don’t want to be equal to men, they want to dominate men. Anyway some women can’t carry a child, does that make them not women in your eyes? |
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Post by patty on Mar 20, 2019 9:22:46 GMT
Well my granddaughter is 6 and there are interesting conversations in the car as my daughter seeks to explain all the questions she asks regarding these issues.
I'll give daughter her due she does not avoid the topic and tries to explain as the little one would understand...it does seem like she's wading through treacle at times.
I think the topics are aired in the car as 'dad' is a bit anti everything not Welsh n straight.....
I think that they may be too young but perhaps if its just about accepting people for who they are then its ok.
Parents will always get steamed up..the more narrow-minded the more the pot will boil...
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