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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 12:22:58 GMT
I made it up.
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Post by Jim on Apr 11, 2019 12:23:11 GMT
I see our resident iwa member isn't up to much. Perhaps he's just a Mole? Anything else and he would be proposing letters in triplicate, followed by red hot mooring pins in the orifii. Go on Mr Fox, clutter up their fora with posts from the Daily Mail and misogynist and racist twaddle. On second thoughts that's putting a donkey in the strawberry patch, best make it the Socialist Worker. Hundreds of posts until they submit, with eyes bleeding. That'll learn 'em.
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Post by kris on Apr 11, 2019 13:10:19 GMT
Yes I thought so, now let's talk again why I used the word preduices?
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Post by Jim on Apr 11, 2019 13:27:37 GMT
Would it be a good thing if they charged London boaters "per resident" so anyone with a horde of bargee urchins and a foreign bride pay their way. Per urchin per boat owned, obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 13:46:10 GMT
Would it be a good thing if they charged London boaters "per resident" so anyone with a horde of bargee urchins and a foreign bride pay their way. Per urchin per boat owned, obviously. Definitely a good idea and one of the reasons I steadfastly refuse to get married.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 13:56:42 GMT
Yes I thought so, now let's talk again why I used the word preduices? Not at all kris. Its you who is prejudiced. You are prejudiced against anyone who has a different viewpoint. There is a pretty obvious link between nbta and squatters. It is the same basic behaviour. Problem is when the entitled shouty squatters created too much noise a lid was put on it. Plenty of people squatted property causing no problems recognising it was a bit edgy but quite a good thing to be able to do then they get screwed over by the loud ones. I believe the same will happen with living on boats. Shouting about rights when you are living on the edge of legality is not a good idea. Biting the hand that feeds you is also counterproductive. Wrong strategy. Its political. ---- opinion /əˈpɪnjən/ noun 1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. "that, in my opinion, is right"
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Post by kris on Apr 11, 2019 14:15:52 GMT
Yes I thought so, now let's talk again why I used the word preduices? Not at all kris. Its you who is prejudiced. You are prejudiced against anyone who has a different viewpoint. There is a pretty obvious link between nbta and squatters. It is the same basic behaviour. Problem is when the entitled shouty squatters created too much noise a lid was put on it. Plenty of people squatted property causing no problems recognising it was a bit edgy but quite a good thing to be able to do then they get screwed over by the loud ones. I believe the same will happen with living on boats. Shouting about rights when you are living on the edge of legality is not a good idea. Biting the hand that feeds you is also counterproductive. Wrong strategy. Its political. ---- opinion /əˈpɪnjən/ noun 1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. "that, in my opinion, is right" Bollocks. So all the people living on boats in London would be squatting if the law hadn't been changed?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 14:25:40 GMT
Did I say that? Try switching off your automatic prejudice and read what I posted. To make it easier maybe just read the second paragraph. Or maybe just the sentence with "plenty" in it. Eta "boat dwellers" is being used as a political tool. Its got nothing to do with living on boats
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 11, 2019 14:29:00 GMT
So far, yes, in the hope that what we donate goes towards coffee and tea and biscuits for the volunteers who clean up the canals and surroundings. So you agree with the IWA's rhetoric then. I've asked here a couple of times the good and bad points of the IWA. They haven't seemed to me, to be such an evil organisation. I haven't really had a good look at them and their outlook, so I can't say. We have been chucking something like £38/year at them just as a thanks to their volunteers, thinking that it's a bit of our money ploughed back into the canals we use. If somebody would care to list the bad things about the IWA, and the good things about the IWA, I would probably read it. But that hasn't happened so far. And is unlikely to happen. I might have a better look at the IWA later this year, when I have more time. They seem an innocuous association, and the money we give is a voluntary contribution. The CRT licence is demanded/obligatory, and at over £700 is a bit more than the £38, so, of course we are more interested to see how that is wasted on fucking stupid duck signs.
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Post by Jim on Apr 11, 2019 14:45:19 GMT
So you agree with the IWA's rhetoric then. I've asked here a couple of times the good and bad points of the IWA. They haven't seemed to me, to be such an evil organisation. I haven't really had a good look at them and their outlook, so I can't say. We have been chucking something like £38/year at them just as a thanks to their volunteers, thinking that it's a bit of our money ploughed back into the canals we use. If somebody would care to list the bad things about the IWA, and the good things about the IWA, I would probably read it. But that hasn't happened so far. And is unlikely to happen. I might have a better look at the IWA later this year, when I have more time. They seem an innocuous association, and the money we give is a voluntary contribution. The CRT licence is demanded/obligatory, and at over £700 is a bit more than the £38, so, of course we are more interested to see how that is wasted on fucking stupid duck signs. So your £38 doesn't buy you power and influence then? What about access to a members forum where you can go and raise issues as suggested earlier. Or have you already been banned a la CWDF?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 14:47:13 GMT
The IWA seem to have some quite sensible ideas. I do think they might have been infiltrated by "Inflexible Old Gits" at some stage (ageing inflexible middle aged Gits?) who possibly don't validate the changes which have happened over the years in terms of the waterways license paying population.
I still think that at the end of the day if it was a two party system the majority would go for IWA.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 11, 2019 14:52:43 GMT
I've asked here a couple of times the good and bad points of the IWA. They haven't seemed to me, to be such an evil organisation. I haven't really had a good look at them and their outlook, so I can't say. We have been chucking something like £38/year at them just as a thanks to their volunteers, thinking that it's a bit of our money ploughed back into the canals we use. If somebody would care to list the bad things about the IWA, and the good things about the IWA, I would probably read it. But that hasn't happened so far. And is unlikely to happen. I might have a better look at the IWA later this year, when I have more time. They seem an innocuous association, and the money we give is a voluntary contribution. The CRT licence is demanded/obligatory, and at over £700 is a bit more than the £38, so, of course we are more interested to see how that is wasted on fucking stupid duck signs. So your £38 doesn't buy you power and influence then? What about access to a members forum where you can go and raise issues as suggested earlier. Or have you already been banned a la CWDF? I don't have much interest at all in the IWA to be honest. It would be interesting to go to one of their meetings and see if the canapés are any good, and it might be a chance for me to wear my Harris Tweed jacket and put a tie on. Are there any IWA meetings coming up this Summer?
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Post by Jim on Apr 11, 2019 14:57:16 GMT
So your £38 doesn't buy you power and influence then? What about access to a members forum where you can go and raise issues as suggested earlier. Or have you already been banned a la CWDF? I don't have much interest at all in the IWA to be honest. It would be interesting to go to one of their meetings and see if the canapés are any good, and it might be a chance for me to wear my Harris Tweed jacket and put a tie on. Are there any IWA meetings coming up this Summer? Stop waffling and go and sort them out. Excuses excuses! You are their representative here. I have mooring pins, I am about to light the fire.
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Post by kris on Apr 11, 2019 15:22:19 GMT
The nbta freely admit that it is a suitable alternative to squatting which has become more awkward due to law changes. The next thing which will become more awkward due to changes will be living on boats. I just thought I'd quote the section that I pulled Andrew up on again before he forgets what he said. It's not based on preduices Andrew it's based on what you say. Your the one claiming that NBTA have said something they haven't. Your showing your preduices against squatters and members of NBTA by basically demonising them. Maybe you'd like to use the usual insult dirty squatters?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 15:26:31 GMT
At least with the IWA for £38 you get a membership with a vote to try and influence direction, remind me what you get as a cart friend. Twenty years ago we got very close to getting a "rogue" IWA chairman elected as at that time you didn't need to have worked your way up through the ranks, since then you do as they changed the selection rules to prevent it happening again
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