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Post by tonyqj on Nov 29, 2016 21:55:28 GMT
It's very common to use a jump lead. If Geo had a bit more practical knowledge he'd know that. Oh yes as a very temporary link to do an always attended emergency link up between two batteries, the purpose for which they were designed. i.e. connecting two batteries together for a few minutes to assist in boosting one of the batteries allowing the starting of an engine. Extremely bad practices for jump leads to be left connecting to fully charged batteries on a boat or anywhere for weeks let alone days. The possible damage and danger that could result from the positive end of a jump lead becoming detached from one of a pair of batteries banks and shorting to the hull according to you nothing. Rather it could hole the hull; cause a fire, etc. 300/400 amps or more from several hundred-amp hours of batteries. Any insurance company would not be happy when it went wrong and refuse any claim. A boat at a mooring for several months, being passed by others, causing movement of the boat with batteries joined positive to positive by a jump lead. A floating time bomb. Wotever or wotever you call yourself here you are stupid and I hope no one ever takes your advice and connects two batteries bank for days, weeks or months using a jump lead style cable and there is an accident. I hope anyone who read and takes this advice will know where to find you to sue you for the advice and damage and delta9 for that matter as he published it. Sorry D9 but that is where the law stands and lays the responsibility on the advice giver, if a competent person, and the publisher. Wotever has displayed himself here as a competent person on the subject on this and other sites. It's an Internet forum Graham Geoff George Geo. stop being such an arsehole for once in your life. The law has nothing at all to do with the discussions we have on here. Your inability to demonstrate the slightest bit of humility whenever you are demonstrated to be wrong (which is sadly exceedingly common) is your biggest failing. Get over yourself and start posting as a team member and you might find that folk would treat you less like the arsehole you portray.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 29, 2016 22:01:08 GMT
Wotever or wotever you call yourself here you are stupid and I hope no one ever takes your advice And you, Graham, or George, or Geoff, or Geo or whatever you call yourself these days are an egotistical overbearing know-all who should be old enough by now to have learnt some humility.
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Post by tomsk on Nov 29, 2016 22:14:00 GMT
It's very common to use a jump lead. If Geo had a bit more practical knowledge he'd know that. Oh yes as a very temporary link to do an always attended emergency link up between two batteries, the purpose for which they were designed. i.e. connecting two batteries together for a few minutes to assist in boosting one of the batteries allowing the starting of an engine. Extremely bad practices for jump leads to be left connecting to fully charged batteries on a boat or anywhere for weeks let alone days. The possible damage and danger that could result from the positive end of a jump lead becoming detached from one of a pair of batteries banks and shorting to the hull according to you nothing. Rather it could hole the hull; cause a fire, etc. 300/400 amps or more from several hundred-amp hours of batteries. Any insurance company would not be happy when it went wrong and refuse any claim. A boat at a mooring for several months, being passed by others, causing movement of the boat with batteries joined positive to positive by a jump lead. A floating time bomb. Wotever or wotever you call yourself here you are stupid and I hope no one ever takes your advice and connects two batteries bank for days, weeks or months using a jump lead style cable and there is an accident. I hope anyone who read and takes this advice will know where to find you to sue you for the advice and damage and delta9 for that matter as he published it. Sorry D9 but that is where the law stands and lays the responsibility on the advice giver, if a competent person, and the publisher. Wotever has displayed himself here as a competent person on the subject on this and other sites. Geo, Geoff, Whoever... You should be proud to know I now have you heading up my Twat column having recently overtaken Martin and his dreary, pointless caravan pronouncements. You are now King Twat. Class work.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 29, 2016 22:14:42 GMT
I do put a jump lead across to charge it occasionally, quality insulated lead so if it comes off it doesnt short. I keep it in the engine bay if I do have a flat starter battery as its now nearly 9 years old I guess this part of Peter's post passed him by.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 22:33:21 GMT
Who'd have thought that such a simple question would generate such vitriol. Can we keep some sense of proportion please and cut out the personal attacks. If you want to have a fight do it on your own thread.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 29, 2016 22:34:23 GMT
Certainly sir
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 29, 2016 22:38:17 GMT
The panel is 190W so has plenty of grunt to keep the batteries topped up, mind you it didn't do much today as it never defrosted. The boat is at the bottom of our garden so inspection is easy. I also have a 2.4W panel left over from another project, I might just use that, it won't do a lot but I suspect will keep up with self discharge Top Cat Did you really mean 2.4W? Or 2.4kW? If the latter then I'd say it's definitely worth your while connecting it up even if you only do so temporarily for the winter. If you did really mean 2.4W then personally I wouldn't bother. I really don't think it would do anything very much at all over the winter.
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Post by bodger on Nov 29, 2016 22:47:30 GMT
why give him/it/her the satisfaction?
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Post by bodger on Nov 29, 2016 22:49:10 GMT
It's very common to use a jump lead. If Geo had a bit more practical knowledge he'd know that. Extremely bad practices for jump leads to be left connecting to fully charged batteries on a boat or anywhere for weeks let alone days. The possible damage and danger that could result from the positive end of a jump lead becoming detached from one of a pair of batteries banks and shorting to the hull according to you nothing. Rather it could hole the hull; cause a fire, etc. 300/400 amps or more from several hundred-amp hours of batteries. Any insurance company would not be happy when it went wrong and refuse any claim. A boat at a mooring for several months, being passed by others, causing movement of the boat with batteries joined positive to positive by a jump lead. A floating time bomb. OMG, I won't be able to sleep at night ever again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 22:50:35 GMT
Yes its just a 2.4W panel neither use nor ornament really.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 29, 2016 22:52:53 GMT
Yes its just a 2.4W panel neither use nor ornament really. TOP Cat Sadly no, not during the winter. Maybe in the summer it might keep self discharge at bay for a single battery. A mate had one on his Norman which had two little 20Ah batteries and it seemed to work well for him.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 29, 2016 23:12:01 GMT
Wotever or wotever you call yourself here you are stupid and I hope no one ever takes your advice and connects two batteries bank for days, weeks or months using a jump lead style cable and there is an accident. I hope anyone who read and takes this advice will know where to find you to sue you for the advice and damage and delta9 for that matter as he published it. Sorry D9 but that is where the law stands and lays the responsibility on the advice giver, if a competent person, and the publisher. Wotever has displayed himself here as a competent person on the subject on this and other sites. Ooh look, that's a coincidence isn't it! thunderboat.boards.net/post/25825
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Post by geo on Nov 29, 2016 23:40:26 GMT
I do put a jump lead across to charge it occasionally, quality insulated lead so if it comes off it doesnt short. I keep it in the engine bay if I do have a flat starter battery as its now nearly 9 years old I guess this part of Peter's post passed him by. No it did not miss it. I note the context and use. I also noted "quality insulated lead so if it comes off it doesnt short". Unfortunately there are a lot more around that will barely do the job they are supposed to do prabaly the majority out there and the layman does not know how to distinguish the good and the bad. If they did the only ones bought would all be "quality insulated lead so if it comes off it doesnt short" but they are not so the dangers are there of someone reading what you say and having an accident.
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Post by geo on Nov 29, 2016 23:47:34 GMT
Wotever or wotever you call yourself here you are stupid and I hope no one ever takes your advice and connects two batteries bank for days, weeks or months using a jump lead style cable and there is an accident. I hope anyone who read and takes this advice will know where to find you to sue you for the advice and damage and delta9 for that matter as he published it. Sorry D9 but that is where the law stands and lays the responsibility on the advice giver, if a competent person, and the publisher. Wotever has displayed himself here as a competent person on the subject on this and other sites. Ooh look, that's a coincidence isn't it! thunderboat.boards.net/post/25825lol Mr Norman if you do not know the law regarding the advice you give maybe you should. Your friend or should I say enemy obviously did and maybe have actually been and engineer, I don't know, but he seems to have appreciated the responsibilities and knew them. I am beginning to believe you don't, which makes me wonder if you really are qualified.
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Post by geo on Nov 29, 2016 23:49:47 GMT
Extremely bad practices for jump leads to be left connecting to fully charged batteries on a boat or anywhere for weeks let alone days. The possible damage and danger that could result from the positive end of a jump lead becoming detached from one of a pair of batteries banks and shorting to the hull according to you nothing. Rather it could hole the hull; cause a fire, etc. 300/400 amps or more from several hundred-amp hours of batteries. Any insurance company would not be happy when it went wrong and refuse any claim. A boat at a mooring for several months, being passed by others, causing movement of the boat with batteries joined positive to positive by a jump lead. A floating time bomb. OMG, I won't be able to sleep at night ever again Maybe take a Nytol 20 minutes before bed might help or so I am told. Not tried them so no guarantee
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