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Post by faffer on Dec 18, 2016 20:07:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 20:17:49 GMT
I hate people coming towards me with excessively bright lights. And broken number plates.
If its for "downlighting" onto the boat is is okay.
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Post by JohnV on Dec 18, 2016 20:24:48 GMT
I hate people coming towards me with excessively bright lights. And broken number plates. If its for "downlighting" onto the boat is is okay.
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Post by faffer on Dec 18, 2016 20:26:03 GMT
I hate people coming towards me with excessively bright lights. And broken number plates. If its for "downlighting" onto the boat is is okay. It will jave down lights fo the rear deck area but for the front a search/flood light. I think they help when times at night in the dark trying to moor up. I know what you mean thogun about folk with daft bright lights heading towards you, dam annoying.
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Post by bodger on Dec 18, 2016 21:16:45 GMT
moored up overnight at approved lock moorings on the Stratford Avon, along with a couple of other boats. About 11pm a big restaurant boat came by and tied up to set the lock on the other side from us, loud music and 4 floodlights pointing out in all directions.
took no notice of our shouted complaints so I used my hand-held searchlight torch, aiming it in the eyes of the guy who I assumed to be the skipper. it took him a while to catch on, by which time he would have lost his night vision, then all the lights were switched off.
the moral is ................... please don't.
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Post by faffer on Dec 19, 2016 17:31:55 GMT
moored up overnight at approved lock moorings on the Stratford Avon, along with a couple of other boats. About 11pm a big restaurant boat came by and tied up to set the lock on the other side from us, loud music and 4 floodlights pointing out in all directions. took no notice of our shouted complaints so I used my hand-held searchlight torch, aiming it in the eyes of the guy who I assumed to be the skipper. it took him a while to catch on, by which time he would have lost his night vision, then all the lights were switched off. the moral is ................... please don't. That does not mean all folk will do that with a flood light. So a hand held flood light is ok. Would that not make it more difficult having use of only one hand free. If i use a Swinging mooring or post type i think a flood light will help a lot. A few minutes mooring up cant harm anyone, well many but for folk that just like to complain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 17:36:18 GMT
Aiming a bright light directly into someone's eyes near water is probably one of the more idiotic things I've read on here.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself - both for doing it and then boasting on here about it.
Tomsk has a suitable word he often uses.
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Post by faffer on Dec 19, 2016 17:55:31 GMT
Aiming a bright light directly into someone's eyes near water is probably one of the more idiotic things I've read on here. You ought to be ashamed of yourself - both for doing it and then boasting on here about it. Tomsk has a suitable word he often uses. Thinking about it i would be far from impressed if they did that. Suffering from Photophobia is not easy at times. Bad enough with cars and headlights lights set wrong or on full beam whe not needed,
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Post by phil70 on Dec 19, 2016 18:01:21 GMT
Hmm, mixed feelings about this, a new trip boat began working out of Wroxham, it was equipped with 2 forward facing and 2 on each side of Midnight Sun lights so that tourists could see the scenery. I along with Chris and quite a few others had to travel home from work (pubs and restaurants) in the dark and this vessel would blind us. We made our concerns felt to "head office" but all to no avail. We all armed ourselves with 1 million candle power hand held and each time the offending boat approached we flashed him. Initially he just ignored us so we eventually took to flashing at the bridge.This got the message through to him and when ever a smaller boat appeared he dipped his lights result was we could all continue to navigate a night safely. Most of the tourist were too pissed to notice the lights had gone out briefly. I'm not saying this course of action should be undertaken lightly but it was necessary on our part as a last resort, having first tried representation to head office followed by polite warning flashes then finally going tit for tat with the bridge. Phil
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Post by faffer on Dec 19, 2016 18:15:23 GMT
Hmm, mixed feelings about this, a new trip boat began working out of Wroxham, it was equipped with 2 forward facing and 2 on each side of Midnight Sun lights so that tourists could see the scenery. I along with Chris and quite a few others had to travel home from work (pubs and restaurants) in the dark and this vessel would blind us. We made our concerns felt to "head office" but all to no avail. We all armed ourselves with 1 million candle power hand held and each time the offending boat approached we flashed him. Initially he just ignored us so we eventually took to flashing at the bridge.This got the message through to him and when ever a smaller boat appeared he dipped his lights result was we could all continue to navigate a night safely. Most of the tourist were too pissed to notice the lights had gone out briefly. I'm not saying this course of action should be undertaken lightly but it was necessary on our part as a last resort, having first tried representation to head office followed by polite warning flashes then finally going tit for tat with the bridge. Phil That is just it though Phil, the lights on my boat would be aid to help mooring, not while cruising. It takes time to gain night vision when you have Photphobia, so when in a lit up deck area and you need to get to the bow you need a light to aid safety and search / flood lights will do this when mooring. I understand what concerns about usage of bright lights as i said i have problems also but its down to common sense towards others when using them.
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Post by phil70 on Dec 19, 2016 18:50:26 GMT
Have a look at the plastimo website, they have combined deck floodlights and spots which you can switch on at your mooring point. Deck area safely lit and the spot should allow you to pick up a bouy or whatever. Nothing wrong with using appropriate lights, just to add that most of the time the majority of those navigating at night will be aware of the effect of floods or spots on boats approaching and will act accordingly and switch off such lights. Dick Heads won't. Phil
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 18:56:37 GMT
Not really looked at the topic carefully but I sometimes wonder if it would be worth having red lights covering the exterior of the boat for this sort of thing. I realise this can be dodgy if other boats are around as red is a navigation light colour but if its on inland waterways it would probably be ok. Worth having a directional spot light as well I think.
Red lights, as long as they are not too bright, do not interfere with night vision so you get some idea of what is around you without being blinded if the light is turned off. I believe this is why prostitutes use red lights.
Just a thought.
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Post by faffer on Dec 19, 2016 19:47:06 GMT
Not really looked at the topic carefully but I sometimes wonder if it would be worth having red lights covering the exterior of the boat for this sort of thing. I realise this can be dodgy if other boats are around as red is a navigation light colour but if its on inland waterways it would probably be ok. Worth having a directional spot light as well I think. Red lights, as long as they are not too bright, do not interfere with night vision so you get some idea of what is around you without being blinded if the light is turned off. I believe this is why prostitutes use red lights. Just a thought. Since I built the canopy I am debating if to do that but not even thought of a colour to go with. Just fit some under the overhang on the canopy sides as down lighters for the gunnel. You wouldnt see them from the sides.
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Post by bodger on Dec 19, 2016 20:01:06 GMT
Aiming a bright light directly into someone's eyes near water is probably one of the more idiotic things I've read on here. You ought to be ashamed of yourself - both for doing it and then boasting on here about it. Tomsk has a suitable word he often uses. bollox. everyone in the area had already been blinded by the buggers' lights, at a time when many were settling down to sleep. oh, sorry ... I should turn the other cheek. I'll say it again - bollox. and by the way, stating the facts does not represent boasting. out of interest, how would you retaliate under the same circumstances?
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Post by bodger on Dec 19, 2016 20:06:33 GMT
Aiming a bright light directly into someone's eyes near water is probably one of the more idiotic things I've read on here. You ought to be ashamed of yourself - both for doing it and then boasting on here about it. Tomsk has a suitable word he often uses. Thinking about it i would be far from impressed if they did that. Suffering from Photophobia is not easy at times. Bad enough with cars and headlights lights set wrong or on full beam whe not needed, who are 'they'? - I presume you mean the restaurant boat who made everyone in the vicinity suffer from 'photophobia' through their own selfishness, acting like they own the river at that time of night.
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