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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 17:43:25 GMT
Agreed! welcome aboard! looks like the boat in your avatar would fit in well on this thread ππ» Thank you. The boat in my avatar is Irwell moored in Castlefied basin in Manchester. My partner bought Irwell in 2015 with the intention of complete renovation. howeve, for health reasons this project has been delayed! Hopefully now we will restart the project again. Irwell is in a very poor state at the moment and needs a lot of attention. I also appreciate if there are any old photographs of Irwell when it was working. Thanks for the background info - I wish you well with her! kris has more than a little experience keeping a big old girl like yours up together ππ»π
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Post by angelo1728 on May 24, 2021 20:13:39 GMT
Agreed! welcome aboard! looks like the boat in your avatar would fit in well on this thread ππ» Thank you. The boat in my avatar is Irwell moored in Castlefied basin in Manchester. My partner bought Irwell in 2015 with the intention of complete renovation. howeve, for health reasons this project has been delayed! Hopefully now we will restart the project again. Irwell is in a very poor state at the moment and needs a lot of attention. I also appreciate if there are any old photographs of Irwell when it was working. Photo of M/B iRWELL
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Post by Massy on May 24, 2021 22:13:06 GMT
This is great. thanks, i had not seen this photo before!
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Post by kris on May 25, 2021 6:21:36 GMT
This is great. thanks, i had not seen this photo before! Have you spoken to Derrick Bent? He will undoubtedly be able to tell chapter and verse about irwell. Do you have any recent photos?
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Post by angelo1728 on May 25, 2021 14:45:44 GMT
Here is the full historic photo
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Post by angelo1728 on May 25, 2021 14:54:07 GMT
This boat ex British Isles Transport Co. Ltd (Joseph Rank) A 37 was also at Castlefield Basin for many years. Cannot confirm it is still their was renamed 'ISIS'. This photo is taken at Yarwoods River Weaver Yard, new boat almost ready to leave April 1933
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Post by angelo1728 on May 26, 2021 14:08:30 GMT
Another photo of M/b IRWELL near Foulridge in 1939
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Post by Massy on May 27, 2021 16:11:51 GMT
Thank you again for these amazing photos angelo1728 ! @kirs, Unfortunately we have not spoken to Derek Bent yet. It is a great suggestion and certainly we would need to get in touch with him. unfortunately, we don't have his contact details! I have a couple of recent photos which I will post here when I'll become more IT literate! as I said Irwell is in poor condition at the moment and let water in which needs pumping out.
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Post by kris on May 27, 2021 16:18:27 GMT
Thank you again for these amazing photos angelo1728 ! @kirs, Unfortunately we have not spoken to Derek Bent yet. It is a great suggestion and certainly we would need to get in touch with him. unfortunately, we don't have his contact details! I have a couple of recent photos which I will post here when I'll become more IT literate! as I said Irwell is in poor condition at the moment and let water in which needs pumping out. Donβt worry about the condition of irwell post some pictures for the short boat enthusiasts thereβs a few of us on here. Medlock A41 was in a right state when I bought her and is still in a state ie not finished. Iβll ask Derrick if itβs okay to give you his number and if okay Iβll message you with it. Ps to post pictures you need to load them to a hosting site, then post the links here. I use postimage.
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 27, 2021 16:22:06 GMT
Thank you again for these amazing photos angelo1728 ! @kirs, Unfortunately we have not spoken to Derek Bent yet. It is a great suggestion and certainly we would need to get in touch with him. unfortunately, we don't have his contact details! I have a couple of recent photos which I will post here when I'll become more IT literate! as I said Irwell is in poor condition at the moment and let water in which needs pumping out. Do you know where she's leaking, . . and is it somewhere where you can get a cement box on it as a temporary leak stop ?
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Post by Massy on May 27, 2021 20:43:23 GMT
It is heartening to know that i am in the good company of short boat enthusiasts! thanks for contacting Derek and good to hear that he maybe able to help us piece together the journey of Irwell! I will take some more photos in future, but here is this one to start with. a lot of work needed. imgur.com/a/pPACwsdThis is the url for the image but I don't seem to manage to actually insert it here!
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Post by Massy on May 27, 2021 20:49:28 GMT
Hi Tony, thank you so much for the advice. the leak has been a mystery I don't know where it is. she is fine for some time and all of a sudden let water in very rapidly. It particularly happens when it moves! Please excuse my ignorance , but I don't know what a cement box is!
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 28, 2021 4:14:36 GMT
Hi Tony, thank you so much for the advice. the leak has been a mystery I don't know where it is. she is fine for some time and all of a sudden let water in very rapidly. It particularly happens when it moves! Please excuse my ignorance , but I don't know what a cement box is! If she's only making water underway the first thing to check is the tailshaft and stuffing box for leakage when the shaft's turning, . . and if you've got overside water discharge engine or gearbox cooling, check the cooling system and pipework for leaks - with the engine running. If there's no leakage from the sterngear or any engine or gearbox cooling systems and she's only making water underway, or makes more underway than when tied-up, the best place to start looking for the cause is externally along the whole length of the normal waterline in the 'wind and water' band. That's roughly a 6"- 9" wide band immediately above the standing waterline in flat water, . . and it's the area where corrosion and scaling of the hull plating is always more rapid and severe than elsewhere. When underway all boats carry a bow and stern wave, . . and the stern also draws down or 'squats', . . so look first for (worn) thin, damaged, or severely corroded plating, and worn, corroded, loose or even missing rivet heads or rivets, in the wind and water band all round the bow and the stern. You really should make finding the leak top priority. Any leak, no matter where from or how bad, will always be manageable somehow or other, even if it worsens quickly and unexpectedly, . . provided you're aboard at the time, and you know where it is, and you can get at it ! Are the engine-room and cabin bulkheads still watertight, . . and if so, does the internal water level rise only in one compartment, . . and if so, which one ? If one compartment is filling up independently of or quicker than the other two, it will point to the external areas of hull plating you should start looking at first. In answer to your question on what a cement box is, . . it's an internal temporary patch repair to thin or damaged hull plating that's leaking. Properly done they're very effective, and will last for a surprisingly long time, . . if necessary, . . if perhaps you can't get on the dock or there are other more urgent things to see to first.
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 28, 2021 6:34:15 GMT
It is heartening to know that i am in the good company of short boat enthusiasts! thanks for contacting Derek and good to hear that he maybe able to help us piece together the journey of Irwell! I will take some more photos in future, but here is this one to start with. a lot of work needed. imgur.com/a/pPACwsdThis is the url for the image but I don't seem to manage to actually insert it here! I've spent too many long hours, soaked to the skin and cold, steering L&L Shortboats to be all that enthusiastic about them, but I can fill in a small part of Irwell's history for you. She was one of, I think, four L&L Shortboats that British Waterways had on the Nottingham - Leicester and occasional Nottingham - Shardlow grain traffics from 1955 to 1956, when they started using Nottingham Pans on that job with the first of the new Bantam pusher-tugs. The grain came up the Trent to either Trent Lane or Meadow Lane Wharves in Nottingham in 'Hull' boats - motor and dumb barges operated by BWB, Direct, or Trent Carriers, where it was transhipped into the L&L Shortboats for the last leg of the journey, usually to Memory Lane Wharf in Leicester, or occasionally to Shardlow Depot, right up close to the limit of navigation at Wilden Ferry, where the old A6 trunk road used to cross the Trent. I can't honestly remember if it was Irwell or one of the other three, but there's a one in four chance that she might have been the first L&L Shortboat I ever stepped aboard as a starry-eyed young lad having his first introductions to working commercial boats in 1956.
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Post by Andyberg on May 29, 2021 8:55:27 GMT
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