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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 11, 2017 20:20:20 GMT
As pathetic a response as it is, you can give a pardon and financially compensate someone for wrongful imprisonment. A posthumous pardon doesn't cut it. Until we can give life, I cannot justify death as a sentence. But life in prison, should mean every second of life. Rog Perhaps we should allow people to choose? Execution verses 25 years in jail? Yes, actually I would agree with that. I don't support the idea of a compulsory death sentence, but I do believe that prisoners convicted of serious crimes should be allowed to volunteer for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:45:34 GMT
I wonder what Hitler or Mandela would say about this beyond the grave! What I do know is that bad stuff is rarely entirely the fault of a single individual. There are usually a few other c#%ts and associated history behind it... Indeed. but I have no understanding as to the relevence of your response in the context of a response to my post? ..and it wouldn't be for the first time.  I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that we are all indirectly to blame for the shit which happens in this world. Some individuals get brainwashed, paid or 'forced' into perpetuating criminal acts so I personally think capital punishment is wrong because it reduces the chance of the truth being exposed. Whether the truth matters...is another matter.. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:57:15 GMT
Indeed. but I have no understanding as to the relevence of your response in the context of a response to my post? ..and it wouldn't be for the first time. I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that we are all indirectly to blame for the shit which happens in this world. Some individuals get brainwashed, paid or 'forced' into perpetuating criminal acts so I personally think capital punishment is wrong because it reduces the chance of the truth being exposed. Whether the truth matters...is another matter.. Life can be shit, shit happens. its a lottery.. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 21:05:32 GMT
..and it wouldn't be for the first time. I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that we are all indirectly to blame for the shit which happens in this world. Some individuals get brainwashed, paid or 'forced' into perpetuating criminal acts so I personally think capital punishment is wrong because it reduces the chance of the truth being exposed. Whether the truth matters...is another matter.. Life can be shit, shit happens. its a lottery.. I agree Martin but I think we always have some choice as how we deal with the shit. That isn't a lottery. Never give up. Think about those who didn't give up on us. |
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Post by thebfg on Apr 11, 2017 21:06:59 GMT
I don't agree with the death penalty for anybody. Not for Myra Hindley, not for Saddam Hussein, not for Ian Huntley, not for anybody. My feelings concerning the death penalty are very confused. On the one hand the problem is that it is final mistakes can never be rectified but on the other I resent the huge sums of money that are spent detaining truly evil characters for sometimes many decades. Money that could be far better spent on the deserving. I am in the same position. Whilst prison is far too good for some, if they are executed, what if they were found innocent afterwards? I do understand that the trials cost more because for one they want to make certain but mistakes do happen. I kind of like our justice system. It's better to free a guilty person than incarcinate an innocent one. |
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Post by thebfg on Apr 11, 2017 21:11:33 GMT
..and it wouldn't be for the first time. I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that we are all indirectly to blame for the shit which happens in this world. Some individuals get brainwashed, paid or 'forced' into perpetuating criminal acts so I personally think capital punishment is wrong because it reduces the chance of the truth being exposed. Whether the truth matters...is another matter.. Life can be shit, shit happens. its a lottery.. Indeed, but it's how we deal with that shit that defines us. |
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Post by tomsk on Apr 11, 2017 21:16:38 GMT
I don't agree with the death penalty for anybody. Not for Myra Hindley, not for Saddam Hussein, not for Ian Huntley, not for anybody. Not only because it is an abuse for the State to override the rule of nature but also, rather contrarily I suppose, because I don't believe it to be as great a punishment as life imprisonment. As for Arkansas, if they are really that intent on the death penalty then they can always return to the electric chair. The whole reason they don't want to is that it shows all too graphically what they are doing, which is not some medical procedure. Not even those that look at You and The Lad 'wrong'? I am pleasantly surprised by your stance. |
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Post by tomsk on Apr 11, 2017 21:19:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 21:32:20 GMT
I don't agree with the death penalty for anybody. Not for Myra Hindley, not for Saddam Hussein, not for Ian Huntley, not for anybody. Not only because it is an abuse for the State to override the rule of nature but also, rather contrarily I suppose, because I don't believe it to be as great a punishment as life imprisonment. As for Arkansas, if they are really that intent on the death penalty then they can always return to the electric chair. The whole reason they don't want to is that it shows all too graphically what they are doing, which is not some medical procedure. Not even those that look at You and The Lad 'wrong'? I am pleasantly surprised by your stance. We're all hypocrites but it's no excuse to give up is it? |
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Post by tomsk on Apr 11, 2017 21:41:40 GMT
Not even those that look at You and The Lad 'wrong'? I am pleasantly surprised by your stance. We're all hypocrites but it's no excuse to give up is it? Never give up. Be honest to others and true to yourself. Take no shit. That's it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 21:46:45 GMT
We're all hypocrites but it's no excuse to give up is it? Never give up. Be honest to others and true to yourself. Take no shit. That's it. Sounds good to me. I'm still learning but I reckon we are all here to enjoy life. I mean, why would anyone bring kids into this world to experience nothing but misery? The difficult bit is respecting others should be allowed to do the same.  |
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Post by tomsk on Apr 11, 2017 22:08:15 GMT
Never give up. Be honest to others and true to yourself. Take no shit. That's it. Sounds good to me. I'm still learning but I reckon we are all here to enjoy life. I mean, why would anyone bring kids into this world to experience nothing but misery? The difficult bit is respecting others should be allowed to do the same. It's a fuzzy line. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 22:11:02 GMT
Sounds good to me. I'm still learning but I reckon we are all here to enjoy life. I mean, why would anyone bring kids into this world to experience nothing but misery? The difficult bit is respecting others should be allowed to do the same. It's a fuzzy line. Yep! But I do see some good in everyone... |
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Post by tomsk on Apr 11, 2017 22:16:39 GMT
It's a fuzzy line. Yep! But I do see some good in everyone... I'm a strong believer in 'The Essential Good'. It's what keeps me going. That and bags of 'Yorkshire Mix'. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 12, 2017 7:17:30 GMT
Perhaps we should allow people to choose? Execution verses 25 years in jail? Yes, actually I would agree with that. I don't support the idea of a compulsory death sentence, but I do believe that prisoners convicted of serious crimes should be allowed to volunteer for it. I saw a video last night where a man being led to Court for the sexual attack of a young girl and then burning the house down with girl and parents inside alive at the time - suddenly decides to jump over the balcony 4 floors up. Quite voluntarily. A pity, really, as there "may have been some good in him". |
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