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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:19:32 GMT
Are you near Benfleet? I saw some slightly disorganised mud moorings from the train (Limehouse-Southend) do you know anything about those?
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Post by Delta9 on May 11, 2017 11:23:00 GMT
Not that long ago I found a load of fly tipped rubbish where I walk the dog (an area around an abandoned Iron stone mine). Amongst the rubbish was some correspondence (which I took note of the details of before I rang the council). They had actually had to drive past our local tip (or recycling centre as they are now called) to get from the correspondence address to where they had dumped it. Bloody unbelievable. Or they paid someone to take it away and that person fly tipped it. |
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Post by patty on May 11, 2017 11:58:30 GMT
Not that long ago I found a load of fly tipped rubbish where I walk the dog (an area around an abandoned Iron stone mine). Amongst the rubbish was some correspondence (which I took note of the details of before I rang the council). They had actually had to drive past our local tip (or recycling centre as they are now called) to get from the correspondence address to where they had dumped it. Bloody unbelievable. Or they paid someone to take it away and that person fly tipped it. I think thats what happened with my neighbours..she found a man with pick up truck who'd dismantle garage and remove rubbish 'cheap'...wherever he went to get rid was close to where we are cos didn't take him long to dispose of rubbish...Ive often wondered exactly where it all went because closest tip doesn't take what he took. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 15:49:55 GMT
Not that long ago I found a load of fly tipped rubbish where I walk the dog (an area around an abandoned Iron stone mine). Amongst the rubbish was some correspondence (which I took note of the details of before I rang the council). They had actually had to drive past our local tip (or recycling centre as they are now called) to get from the correspondence address to where they had dumped it. Bloody unbelievable. Or they paid someone to take it away and that person fly tipped it. Possibly, but either way its a pretty dumb thing to do not properly destroying personal info. |
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Post by Delta9 on May 16, 2017 22:56:52 GMT
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Post by gigoguy on May 16, 2017 23:14:47 GMT
The other day I watched a news item on local TV about the huge cost of cleaning up Fly Tipped waste. It occurred to me that the average DIYer who gives his kitchen or bathroom a makeover ends up stuck with a load of kitchen units, appliances, flooring etc or a bathroom suite, tiles pipework etc. It's small wonder that as they cannot take the stuff to their local tip, some people resort to fly tipping. If Councils were less picky about what they accept there would be huge savings to be made on clean up costs. Our marina has about 10 dumpsters which a private company is paid to remove weekly and despite paying for this service there is a huge sign on the wall stating what we cannot put in the bins, Phil Well you see there in lies the problem, the tips aren't council they are private. And they only take rubbish they can make some money out of. Yes I think the council either has a concession, or pays a subsidy. (Which is more likely) but they are still privately owned and operated. Or at least they are in most of the big cities. And we have a society that doesn't like paying tax, council or income (sorry for the bad language} and we can't have our shit collected for nothing. I wonder who told us that in a political party manifesto today? |
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Post by phil70 on May 16, 2017 23:41:09 GMT
The problem is that most people think that they have already paid via council tax and expect to be able to get rid of all their crap, the tipmeisters think otherwise, so we get fly tipping
Phil
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Post by peterboat on May 17, 2017 10:25:44 GMT
The other day I watched a news item on local TV about the huge cost of cleaning up Fly Tipped waste. It occurred to me that the average DIYer who gives his kitchen or bathroom a makeover ends up stuck with a load of kitchen units, appliances, flooring etc or a bathroom suite, tiles pipework etc. It's small wonder that as they cannot take the stuff to their local tip, some people resort to fly tipping. If Councils were less picky about what they accept there would be huge savings to be made on clean up costs. Our marina has about 10 dumpsters which a private company is paid to remove weekly and despite paying for this service there is a huge sign on the wall stating what we cannot put in the bins, Phil Well you see there in lies the problem, the tips aren't council they are private. And they only take rubbish they can make some money out of. Yes I think the council either has a concession, or pays a subsidy. (Which is more likely) but they are still privately owned and operated. Or at least they are in most of the big cities. And we have a society that doesn't like paying tax, council or income (sorry for the bad language} and we can't have our shit collected for nothing. I wonder who told us that in a political party manifesto today? I think you are way off the mark my daughter is a councilor, the rubbish collection points belong to the council, now the land where the rubbish goes is a different matter. Some might be owned by the council some private whatever happens the landfill tax is large to force councils into recycling or waste incineration not a bad thing really. Of course some rural councils will be charging city councils for the pleasure of using their land for rubbish disposal. Its a right mess though, as Amy says people dump rubbish everywhere and expect no consequences for their actions which of course couldnt be further from the truth |
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Post by thebfg on May 17, 2017 11:08:14 GMT
Well you see there in lies the problem, the tips aren't council they are private. And they only take rubbish they can make some money out of. Yes I think the council either has a concession, or pays a subsidy. (Which is more likely) but they are still privately owned and operated. Or at least they are in most of the big cities. And we have a society that doesn't like paying tax, council or income (sorry for the bad language} and we can't have our shit collected for nothing. I wonder who told us that in a political party manifesto today? I think you are way off the mark my daughter is a councilor, the rubbish collection points belong to the council, now the land where the rubbish goes is a different matter. Some might be owned by the council some private whatever happens the landfill tax is large to force councils into recycling or waste incineration not a bad thing really. Of course some rural councils will be charging city councils for the pleasure of using their land for rubbish disposal. Its a right mess though, as Amy says people dump rubbish everywhere and expect no consequences for their actions which of course couldnt be further from the truth I would say it differs across the country. Most if all Hampshire county council tips are operated by themselves, however Southampton city council tip is managed by a private company and do as they please. The problem starts when they call stuff trade waste even if a diy'er takes it in, it's still trade waste and chargeable. |
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Post by lollygagger on May 17, 2017 12:41:53 GMT
The local recycling centre here is fantastic with no ID required and helpful friendly staff.
They just let me pour 5 gallons of polluted engine bilge water in the used oil thing. It was like mayonnaise after going through the pump. Previously I've taken furniture, an old kitchen, a large fridge, old chemicals, all met with a smile and a friendly chat and help unloading without being asked.
Oddly I haven't noticed any fly tipping in the year I've driven the country roads round here. When you know you won't be turned away there's no reason for anyone to dump elsewhere.
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Post by peterboat on May 17, 2017 13:26:50 GMT
Amy was telling me that the problem for them is builders waste kitchens etc they get two quotes one for them disposing and the other for the owner disposing, of course one is much bigger than the other so they wont allow it any more and of course it ends up in the street/countryside etc. They now have loads of cameras around and prosecute anybody caught
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Post by naughtyfox on May 17, 2017 15:35:00 GMT
The other day I watched a news item on local TV about the huge cost of cleaning up Fly Tipped waste. It occurred to me that the average DIYer who gives his kitchen or bathroom a makeover ends up stuck with a load of kitchen units, appliances, flooring etc or a bathroom suite, tiles pipework etc. It's small wonder that as they cannot take the stuff to their local tip, some people resort to fly tipping. If Councils were less picky about what they accept there would be huge savings to be made on clean up costs. Our marina has about 10 dumpsters which a private company is paid to remove weekly and despite paying for this service there is a huge sign on the wall stating what we cannot put in the bins, Phil and we can't have our shit collected for nothing. 'Travellers' get away with it all the time.  |
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Post by gigoguy on May 17, 2017 20:04:03 GMT
Well you see there in lies the problem, the tips aren't council they are private. And they only take rubbish they can make some money out of. Yes I think the council either has a concession, or pays a subsidy. (Which is more likely) but they are still privately owned and operated. Or at least they are in most of the big cities. And we have a society that doesn't like paying tax, council or income (sorry for the bad language} and we can't have our shit collected for nothing. I wonder who told us that in a political party manifesto today? I think you are way off the mark my daughter is a councilor, the rubbish collection points belong to the council, now the land where the rubbish goes is a different matter. Some might be owned by the council some private whatever happens the landfill tax is large to force councils into recycling or waste incineration not a bad thing really. Of course some rural councils will be charging city councils for the pleasure of using their land for rubbish disposal. Its a right mess though, as Amy says people dump rubbish everywhere and expect no consequences for their actions which of course couldnt be further from the truth Maybe the collection is still council owned, coz that's the bit that costs money. But the processing will be private, and that's where the money is made. There was item on the radio not long ago about a guy who took his garden rubbish in a wheelbarrow, so he didn't have to use the car. (I think environmental reasons rather than being a tight git) And he wasn't allowed in. It's not safe to walk in now apparently. Again a good reason for people to just empty it in a back ally on the way I spose |
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Post by Stumpy on May 19, 2017 8:20:46 GMT
and we can't have our shit collected for nothing. 'Travellers' get away with it all the time. You're right Mr Fox. Copied from one of our local rags...... LINK |
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Post by Stumpy on May 19, 2017 8:42:49 GMT
I recall a few years ago catching some fly tippers red handed, whilst out 4x4 driving with a mate on Salisbury Plain.
A mountain of rubbish, ranging from the obligatory fridge, sofa, old battery etc etc, had been deposited from the back of their builders van
We had blocked their only escape route, and had called the police, they were both banged to rights.
To cut a long story short. When the fly tippers case went to court, all the magistrates did to the miscreants was to fine them a measly £25 quid each.
Some deterrent !
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