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Post by phil70 on May 10, 2017 22:47:45 GMT
The other day I watched a news item on local TV about the huge cost of cleaning up Fly Tipped waste. It occurred to me that the average DIYer who gives his kitchen or bathroom a makeover ends up stuck with a load of kitchen units, appliances, flooring etc or a bathroom suite, tiles pipework etc. It's small wonder that as they cannot take the stuff to their local tip, some people resort to fly tipping. If Councils were less picky about what they accept there would be huge savings to be made on clean up costs. Our marina has about 10 dumpsters which a private company is paid to remove weekly and despite paying for this service there is a huge sign on the wall stating what we cannot put in the bins, Phil
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:54:19 GMT
Redcar and Cleveland will take all of the items you mention but people still fly tip them...
They are just either bloody stupid, lazy or a bit thick.
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Post by thebfg on May 10, 2017 22:56:24 GMT
It's a massive issue down here. I was at the tip a while ago. And an old bloke had either half a bag of cement or a small pile of rubble.
They asked for £2.50. He said he would rather bury it at the end of the garden.
It's that old issue of paying twice for a service.
I wonder what would happen if you just chucked it in anyway.
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Post by Delta9 on May 10, 2017 23:18:31 GMT
It's a pain in the arse to get rid of rubbish in the UK, I'm not surprised people fly tip. People get tiny bins that are emptied every week or two. If you don't have a car you're buggered. I currently have a fridge to dispose of, it won't fit in my tiny car and if I borrow my friends van the dump will charge me £40. People who are short of money can't afford to pay fees like tha, especially when they'e just unexpectedly had to buy a new appliance or whatever broke that they are dumping. In Spain the bins are big, they are emptied daily, and large items can be left by the bins for collection one day per week. If we had a refuse service like that here there would be very little need to fly tip.
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Post by thebfg on May 10, 2017 23:31:25 GMT
It's a pain in the arse to get rid of rubbish in the UK, I'm not surprised people fly tip. People get tiny bins that are emptied every week or two. If you don't have a car you're buggered. I currently have a fridge to dispose of, it won't fit in my tiny car and if I borrow my friends an the dump will charge me £40. People who are short of money can't afford to pay fees like tha, especially when they'e just unexpectedly had to buy a new appliance or whatever broke that they are dumping. In Spain the bins are big, they are emptied daily, and large items can be left by the bins for collection one day per week. If we had a refuse service like that here there would be very little need to fly tip. Strangely if I had a fridge to dispose of the council would collect it for free. Up to four times a year. But if I took it myself to the council tip they will charge.
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Post by patty on May 11, 2017 0:37:12 GMT
As i've said previously the tip here is awful...they stand over people with black bin bags and make them sort through and recycle rubbish..without gloves....they interrogate van drivers..those without license not allowed..I'm not surprised people fly tip...I am so glad most of my renovation rubbish went before they started all this even so I paid £400 plus to get 2 loads removed from here...'man with van' and also had a skip plus had to pay at the bailing plant for rubbish not permitted at tip. The hedge rows/fields and verges disgusting ...
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Post by JohnV on May 11, 2017 6:21:27 GMT
Reading this, I realise how lucky I am. We have two large skips and one smaller one at the boatyard. One for general rubbish and one for metal and a small one for old batteries. The Rubbish skip is collected when it gets full. The metal skip and the battery skip are taken to the scrap yard by the boatyard (they have a waste license) the money for this being set against the general rubbish disposal fee. The whole thing is included in our (cheap) mooring fee.
Just another bit of "waste lunacy" ...... The boatyard thought it would be a good idea (both green and reducing the amount in the main skip) to get a couple of "bottle banks" to re-cycle the glass ....... this idea was scrapped when they found that they would have to pay for the bottle banks AND pay again every time they were emptied. ..... I thought recycled glass was worth some money !!!
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Post by patty on May 11, 2017 6:47:00 GMT
Just another bit of "waste lunacy" ...... The boatyard thought it would be a good idea (both green and reducing the amount in the main skip) to get a couple of "bottle banks" to re-cycle the glass ....... this idea was scrapped when they found that they would have to pay for the bottle banks AND pay again every time they were emptied. ..... I thought recycled glass was worth some money !!! I'm struggling to see how policies such as that encourage recycling....pay for the privilege of helping to reduce landfill...they all need to wake up and get real
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Post by phil70 on May 11, 2017 7:02:10 GMT
Just another bit of "waste lunacy" ...... The boatyard thought it would be a good idea (both green and reducing the amount in the main skip) to get a couple of "bottle banks" to re-cycle the glass ....... this idea was scrapped when they found that they would have to pay for the bottle banks AND pay again every time they were emptied. ..... I thought recycled glass was worth some money !!! I'm struggling to see how policies such as that encourage recycling....pay for the privilege of helping to reduce landfill...they all need to wake up and get real Seems to me that a lot of this recycling malarkey is just another way for somebody to make some money out of us, they achieve this by convincing us we are saving the planet if we pay them to remove what is obviously a valuable (to them) commodity Phil
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Post by peterboat on May 11, 2017 7:37:50 GMT
My daughter is a councilor she says its like mating elephants at council meetings!! unfortunately they claim its EU rules that have caused these problems
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Post by bodger on May 11, 2017 7:55:12 GMT
I don't have the full details. but Gloucestershire failed to get approval for an incinerator for locally generated rubbish. Meanwhile a huge 'energy recovery centre' was built in Gloucestershire to handle rubbish trained down from West London. It is only about 1 mile outside Bristol's boundary, but I don't recall any public discussion about it before it was approved. It all stinks (pun intended) of corruption and brown envelopes.
RE: the O.P. if a DIY guy is going to refit his kitchen he can surely afford a couple of hundred quid for a skip company's services, at least where we are talking about an average house with a front yard or street frontage. As they say, 'fail to prepare, prepare to fail'.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 8:42:31 GMT
Not that long ago I found a load of fly tipped rubbish where I walk the dog (an area around an abandoned Iron stone mine).
Amongst the rubbish was some correspondence (which I took note of the details of before I rang the council). They had actually had to drive past our local tip (or recycling centre as they are now called) to get from the correspondence address to where they had dumped it.
Bloody unbelievable.
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Post by IainS on May 11, 2017 10:18:47 GMT
I don't have the full details. but Gloucestershire failed to get approval for an incinerator for locally generated rubbish.Meanwhile a huge 'energy recovery centre' was built in Gloucestershire to handle rubbish trained down from West London. It is only about 1 mile outside Bristol's boundary, but I don't recall any public discussion about it before it was approved. It all stinks (pun intended) of corruption and brown envelopes. RE: the O.P. if a DIY guy is going to refit his kitchen he can surely afford a couple of hundred quid for a skip company's services, at least where we are talking about an average house with a front yard or street frontage. As they say, 'fail to prepare, prepare to fail'. It can be a real problem: Our local hospital planned a "clean burn" incinerator for hospital waste, planning to collect waste from all the hospitals in the local health area and some from neighbouring areas. The heat would be used to heat the hospital. There were numerous objections, and they didn't get planning permission.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 10:22:57 GMT
Reading this, I realise how lucky I am. We have two large skips and one smaller one at the boatyard. One for general rubbish and one for metal and a small one for old batteries. The Rubbish skip is collected when it gets full. The metal skip and the battery skip are taken to the scrap yard by the boatyard (they have a waste license) the money for this being set against the general rubbish disposal fee. The whole thing is included in our (cheap) mooring fee. Just another bit of "waste lunacy" ...... The boatyard thought it would be a good idea (both green and reducing the amount in the main skip) to get a couple of "bottle banks" to re-cycle the glass ....... this idea was scrapped when they found that they would have to pay for the bottle banks AND pay again every time they were emptied. ..... I thought recycled glass was worth some money !!! Are there any moorings avaiable for a 40 footer? Sounds like my kind of place !!
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Post by JohnV on May 11, 2017 10:43:43 GMT
Reading this, I realise how lucky I am. We have two large skips and one smaller one at the boatyard. One for general rubbish and one for metal and a small one for old batteries. The Rubbish skip is collected when it gets full. The metal skip and the battery skip are taken to the scrap yard by the boatyard (they have a waste license) the money for this being set against the general rubbish disposal fee. The whole thing is included in our (cheap) mooring fee. Just another bit of "waste lunacy" ...... The boatyard thought it would be a good idea (both green and reducing the amount in the main skip) to get a couple of "bottle banks" to re-cycle the glass ....... this idea was scrapped when they found that they would have to pay for the bottle banks AND pay again every time they were emptied. ..... I thought recycled glass was worth some money !!! Are there any moorings avaiable for a 40 footer? Sounds like my kind of place !! unfortunately for you we are pretty well full ..... there are a couple of berths but only for small (sub 20 footers) ...... don't get many vacancies .... probably because of the price
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