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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 7:38:55 GMT
With the election fast approaching, I have been considering the purpose of the various political threads on here and on CWDF.
I tend to read most of them, but try not to get involved.
It appears to me that all participants approach the discussion with already formed 'fixed' views, that rarely change.
So I wonder what the purpose of such threads can be?
Is it evangelical, in the hope of persuading the undecided, or more a statement of one's position?
As I've said, I usually read them, so I'm not complaining, just wondering.
Rog
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Post by bodger on Jun 1, 2017 7:43:02 GMT
it would seem you have already established a fixed view in your mind that such threads are pointless, so what is the point of your thread?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 8:12:21 GMT
With the election fast approaching, I have been considering the purpose of the various political threads on here and on CWDF. I tend to read most of them, but try not to get involved. It appears to me that all participants approach the discussion with already formed 'fixed' views, that rarely change. So I wonder what the purpose of such threads can be? Is it evangelical, in the hope of persuading the undecided, or more a statement of one's position? As I've said, I usually read them, so I'm not complaining, just wondering. Rog I see all my views as work in progress. I read other views hoping to be challenged sometimes to the point of changing my viewpoint. I wish politicians would do the same rather than just tow the party line. It's dangerous when people become cock sure of themselves. Things change so it's important to be wiling to adapt. I also think it would be better sometimes just to say when we don't know or are unsure. It's not a weakness, it's just being honest and shows we are willing to learn.
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Post by patty on Jun 1, 2017 9:46:03 GMT
I'm easily swayed by views...I'm a yo yo voter.... When Im with one son Im voting labour When Im with daughter its Tory and when Im by myself it's...... none of them.....
I read the 'short' posts on politics long waffles confuse me...sometimes I wonder why women got the vote......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 10:16:00 GMT
I've very recently decided to vote Labour because Corbyn seems to be honest AND decent. It will probably hurt my pocket but this country is not sharing its wealth fairly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 11:15:55 GMT
I think most of the time it is primarily a statement of one's position but for some people there is an element of checking your views, this can range for wanting to know others support your views or questioning whether your views are correct. It is normally fairly easy to spot someone that is being 'evangelical', mainly because they won't let the issue drop or give their opinion in a 'forceful/blinkered' way.
Pretty much like any contentious discussion really.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 1, 2017 11:31:13 GMT
I've very recently decided to vote Labour because Corbyn seems to be honest AND decent. It will probably hurt my pocket but this country is not sharing its wealth fairly. That might well be true. Corbyn on the other hand, fails to see that 'investment' (read borrowing) achieves a new injustice to replace the existing one. Heaping additional debt on those too young to work at the moment, or those that are still just a flutter in their future parent's eyes. Which injustice is greater, I wonder. This new injustice could be allayed of course, if taxes were to rise significantly. Kamrad Corbyn doesn't have the balls for this unfortunately, knowing it would make him (even more) unelectable. Instead, he chooses to just increase taxes on the richest 5%; the sum raised will no way match the increased spending. Increasing corporation tax may raise some additional revenues but equally, it could have the reverse effect. Come on Corbyn, show your balls, you need to raise taxes across the board.
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Post by peterboat on Jun 1, 2017 12:45:53 GMT
I dont vote for traitors and thats what Corbyn, is when he is interviewed about it he lies and when the evidence is provided he buries his head in the sand he is a third rate politician but a first rate liar!!¬
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 1, 2017 14:10:49 GMT
It's very difficult to get the rich to pay more taxes, because they will threaten to reduce or stop their donations (bribes) to your Party and your fellow party members will get annoyed and attack you. Also, when someone steps out of line too much, the rich simply hire a hit man and remove you.
I have said how I think things should/could be run in Britain, and had a go exposing politicians (and others) for the frauds they are. That's my starting point, and reading other Thunderboat members' angles I can modify my views. It's not easy when peterboat tells why he sees Corblimey as a traitor, and then others explain how he could be better than May-the-foxhunting-begin.
I believe politicians should state their intentions and when elected if they do not get on with it darned quick then they should be severely punished - putting them in the stocks so that passers-by can shove rusty screwdrivers up their nostrils.
May and her "Brexit means Brexit" - a whole year has gone by - she's fooled the lot of you, and still claiming a big fat salary and pension!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 15:02:44 GMT
it would seem you have already established a fixed view in your mind that such threads are pointless, so what is the point of your thread? I was interested in the motivation of posters on this subject. Feel free to ignore me, some say being ignored is my best side. I also find it interesting that the labour/tory banter kicks off again. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 18:42:58 GMT
deleted post, quote system snafu
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 18:49:51 GMT
I've very recently decided to vote Labour because Corbyn seems to be honest AND decent. It will probably hurt my pocket but this country is not sharing its wealth fairly. That might well be true. Corbyn on the other hand, fails to see that 'investment' (read borrowing) achieves a new injustice to replace the existing one. Heaping additional debt on those too young to work at the moment, or those that are still just a flutter in their future parent's eyes. Which injustice is greater, I wonder. The national debt has increased massively since the Tories came into power. The Tories have been unable to reduce immigration despite their promises. Why do you assume Labour would be worse?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 1, 2017 19:01:48 GMT
I'm not a "dyed-in-the-wool" voter, I voted UKIP in the 2015 election and I voted (postal vote) Labour this time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 19:32:58 GMT
I'm not a "dyed-in-the-wool" voter, I voted UKIP in the 2015 election and I voted (postal vote) Labour this time. Interesting. You trust Corbyn to deliver the Brexit outcome that UKIP strove so hard for?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 1, 2017 19:37:30 GMT
I'm not a "dyed-in-the-wool" voter, I voted UKIP in the 2015 election and I voted (postal vote) Labour this time. Interesting. You trust Corbyn to deliver the Brexit outcome that UKIP strove so hard for? Jeremy Corbyn isn't the candidate in my constituency.
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