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Post by lollygagger on Jun 8, 2017 14:04:53 GMT
None of the people who go driving on their boat and park it up, will mind then when there are parking meters and traffic wardens every where on the waterways? That's a big assumption. Hands up anyone happy with meters and traffic wardens on the road. Anyone?
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 14:11:41 GMT
it is against the law to be drunk in charge of a boat so they didn't need to use the road traffic act. But I'm sure the "coppers" wouldn't be aware of this. But under what law when it's a pleasure boat, that's the question! Merchant shipping act? I think it was the waterways bye laws that where amended a few years ago to make it an offence. But I'm not 100% certain of that. I remember when it was brought in. Definately not the road traffic act though. I can't help feeling that there's more to your story though public safety maybe? I'm not surprised that an officer of the law would be ignorant of the law. They work on the same premise as crt, if you don't like it you can take them to court.
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Post by markhez on Jun 8, 2017 14:15:28 GMT
But under what law when it's a pleasure boat, that's the question! Merchant shipping act? I think it was the waterways bye laws that where amended a few years ago to make it an offence. But I'm not 100% certain of that. I remember when it was brought in. Definately not the road traffic act though. I can't help feeling that there's more to your story though public safety maybe? I'm not surprised that an officer of the law would be ignorant of the law. They work on the same premise as crt, if you don't like take them to court. Are you thinking of Railways and transportation safety act? A limit has been written into that, but it isn't enacted yet. There is a lot more to the story, but as it was me that called the police originally, I can't go into it properly! (was just having a conversation with the officer on the scene as to what arrestable offence he could use if he so wished)
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 14:18:13 GMT
I think it was the waterways bye laws that where amended a few years ago to make it an offence. But I'm not 100% certain of that. I remember when it was brought in. Definately not the road traffic act though. I can't help feeling that there's more to your story though public safety maybe? I'm not surprised that an officer of the law would be ignorant of the law. They work on the same premise as crt, if you don't like take them to court. Are you thinking of Railways and transportation safety act? A limit has been written into that, but it isn't enacted yet. There is a lot more to the story, but as it was me that called the police originally, I can't go into it properly! (was just having a conversation with the officer on the scene as to what arrestable offence he could use if he so wished) no that's not what I was thinking of, sorry I can't remember any more detail, but I'm 100% certain it was made an offence to be drunk in charge of a boat.
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Post by Saltysplash on Jun 8, 2017 14:32:55 GMT
it is against the law to be drunk in charge of a boat so they didn't need to use the road traffic act. But I'm sure the "coppers" wouldn't be aware of this. But under what law when it's a pleasure boat, that's the question! Merchant shipping act? Your right, I've not found any legislation that would cover drunk in charge of a private lesuire boat that doesnt come under the MSA. Any brief would rip such a charge apart
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Post by Saltysplash on Jun 8, 2017 14:34:36 GMT
Byelaws would need to be enforced by CRT and would not be arrestable unless chummy was being a c*nt
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 14:39:28 GMT
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 15:02:36 GMT
Byelaws would need to be enforced by CRT and would not be arrestable unless chummy was being a c*nt apparently it varies from waterway to waterway. A snippet from British waterways website 1962 Bye-laws relating to the Gloucester & Sharpness Canal and River Severn Navigation Bye-Law 44 - "No person shall navigate any vessel on the canal or take any part in the navigation, mooring or handling of any vessel on the canal whilst in a state of intoxication". Boater convicted of bye-law offense Although this does come from the dark side so maybe not reliable.
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Post by kris on Jun 8, 2017 15:18:17 GMT
None of the people who go driving on their boat and park it up, will mind then when there are parking meters and traffic wardens every where on the waterways? That's a big assumption. Hands up anyone happy with meters and traffic wardens on the road. Anyone? it was obviously not meant to be taken to seriously, but it could happen if Crt get their way.
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Post by thebfg on Jun 8, 2017 18:54:02 GMT
If your getting your information about boating from Crt, then you are trully fucked. Just think about the statement you've quoted. "On all waterways, the rule of the road" it's not a fucking road! It's a waterway. I'm not sure they do it on purpose as they are not that clever, but it's written in a way that first time hirers will understand.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 9, 2017 6:23:23 GMT
Its no wonder so many people handle boats with a car driver mentality exactly, including trying to go as fast as they do on the roads. We've got a cratch-cam on ours for slapping canal rage vids up on Youtube. Commentary includes X-rated language and "I know where you live you cretin!!" with fist shakes and lude gestures.
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Post by kris on Jun 9, 2017 8:12:27 GMT
exactly, including trying to go as fast as they do on the roads. We've got a cratch-cam on ours for slapping canal rage vids up on Youtube. Commentary includes X-rated language and "I know where you live you cretin!!" with fist shakes and lude gestures. i look forward to watching the videos.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 13:24:14 GMT
Moored at Wilstone on the Alesbury arm last night, between locks 8 and 9.
Apparently that is where the fatality occured.
A boater came out of his boat to clear fallen branches off it, but was crushed by the main tree which fell on him. The story was related by a villager, who said the man had 'gone missing' leaving his boat open, and it was some time before locals realised he was under the tree. It is believed he died instantaneously, the poor soul.
A reminder, if one was needed, to be careful in strong winds.
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 13:32:48 GMT
Moored at Wilstone on the Alesbury arm last night, between locks 8 and 9. Apparently that is where the fatality occured. A boater came out of his boat to clear fallen branches off it, but was crushed by the main tree which fell on him. The story was related by a villager, who said the man had 'gone missing' leaving his boat open, and it was some time before locals realised he was under the tree. It is believed he died instantaneously, the poor soul. A reminder, if one was needed, to be careful in strong winds. Rog NOT like!
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